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Garrison72

Garrison72

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#61
Apr 18, 2011
8 million eh?That's paltry. Wasn't GTA4 like 100 million?
 
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Grapefruit

Senior user
#62
Apr 18, 2011
Edk said:
Edk said:
With an 8 million dollar budget (the budget that is TW2)
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source?
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They said it in a polish interview a while back, that they would spend 30 million PLN on TW 2 or 7.5 million euro. I tried to find the link and i couldn't but those were the numbers, i remember very correct.It might be a little more than 8 million dollars though.
 
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Chromie192

Senior user
#63
Apr 18, 2011
slimgrin said:
8 million eh?That's paltry. Wasn't GTA4 like 100 million?
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And look at how Rockstar is treating the PC crowd. A bad port of GTA 4, no Red Dead Redemption or L.A Noire. Red Dead I had to play on a friends xbox..and L.A Noire i will suffer once again because it looks really good. But damn you Rockstar!
 
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zax19

Senior user
#64
Apr 18, 2011
Please don't feed the troll.
 
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Grapefruit

Senior user
#65
Apr 18, 2011
Zax19 said:
Please don't feed the troll.
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An awesome response from an awesome person.
 
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Thorslog

Senior user
#66
Apr 18, 2011
Geeze this thread makes absolutely no sense. Whether or not they're making a console version is not our decision and surely we aren't the financial experts to judge on that.and also, i think it's fair if console gamers get the chance to experience this awesome game :)
 
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n4meless1

Senior user
#67
Apr 18, 2011
And why it's not fair for us to experience all those console exclusive games (not that there are many of them which are good)? I agree that it's not to us to decide anything, but being supportive of the port is very strange! That only means less time for us, and for the sequel! And, we all know what happened to all those PC developers who's gone to consoles..
 
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freakie1one

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#68
Apr 18, 2011
n4meless1 said:
And why it's not fair for us to experience all those console exclusive games (not that there are many of them which are good)? I agree that it's not to us to decide anything, but being supportive of the port is very strange! That only means less time for us, and for the sequel! And, we all know what happened to all those PC developers who's gone to consoles..
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I think people make too many assumptions. Just because a developer makes a game for a console does not mean they automatically have to lose all quality and start making generic and crappy games. It's always up to a developer whether they are going to go for quick releases and more money (by sacrificing quality) or not sacrificing quality and spending enough time to do it right. It doesn't matter what platform a developer makes a game for. Assuming that they must do something based upon what other companies choose to do is absurd.Seeing as how CDPR made a PC game first, and not simultaneously with console versions, tells me that they do care about quality and taking the time to do it right.
 
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chauntea

Forum regular
#69
Apr 18, 2011
They should because it's a lot of $ to miss out on. Having a game ported to console doesn't mean that its going to be automatic crap.
 
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chimpo

Senior user
#70
Apr 18, 2011
Dweller123 said:
Dweller123 said:
Dweller123 said:
With an 8 million dollar budget (the budget that is TW2)
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source?
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They said it in a polish interview a while back, that they would spend 30 million PLN on TW 2 or 7.5 million euro. I tried to find the link and i couldn't but those were the numbers, i remember very correct.It might be a little more than 8 million dollars though.
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Since CD Projekt is now a public company they had to tell their stockholders how their business works.So Witcher 1 cost them 27milion PLN and they made 32 milion PLN ( they sold over 1.5 m copies ). Profit - 5 milion PLNWitcher 2 costs ~30-35 milion PLN ( earlier it was 30 milion but lately it was said that it's over 30 milion ) and their expectations are to make 108 milion PLN. Profit - 75 milion PLNIf they make it, then they will have cash to pay their debts and start working on next games and hire more people to developement team. If not then they will have problems.
 
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Grapefruit

Senior user
#71
Apr 19, 2011
Chimpo said:
Chimpo said:
Chimpo said:
Chimpo said:
With an 8 million dollar budget (the budget that is TW2)
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source?
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They said it in a polish interview a while back, that they would spend 30 million PLN on TW 2 or 7.5 million euro. I tried to find the link and i couldn't but those were the numbers, i remember very correct.It might be a little more than 8 million dollars though.
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Since CD Projekt is now a public company they had to tell their stockholders how their business works.So Witcher 1 cost them 27milion PLN and they made 32 milion PLN ( they sold over 1.5 m copies ). Profit - 5 milion PLNWitcher 2 costs ~30-35 milion PLN ( earlier it was 30 milion but lately it was said that it's over 30 milion ) and their expectations are to make 108 milion PLN. Profit - 75 milion PLNIf they make it, then they will have cash to pay their debts and start working on next games and hire more people to developement team. If not then they will have problems.
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No, no.The Profit from the witcher was 32 million PLN.As in, minus the cost for the game.
 
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soldiergeralt

Forum veteran
#72
Apr 19, 2011
if they make a console port, it's for business. no one really sits there and says it's only fair we deliver them such a great thing. same perspective from console side, if they make a pc version it's because they see the possibility of profit. if they want to make more money than on pc, they have to go console. that is the unfortunate truth.
 
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Steve_Theim

Senior user
#73
Apr 19, 2011
"If an excellent RPG like dragon age 2 sold more than 750 000 copies on consoles, it surely means that TW2 will be a total financial failure!"If you think that's an excellent rpg don't bother with the Witcher it will make your head explode. And for the record DA2 is a failure considering they wanted to sell 4 mill copies(slightly more then origins), but they wont even hit a 2mill mark.having said all that, consoles are strong in the US, though they have gone down recently they still remain the platform of choice. Then again the choice of many who prefer things a bit on the simpler/casual side.
 
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chauntea

Forum regular
#74
Apr 19, 2011
Nice joke about DA2 being excellent RPG. Had a good laugh :)
 
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Seeker.217

Ex-moderator
#75
Apr 19, 2011
Im just going to bring this to the table what make you think if and it is still a big if TW2 was coming to the console it would be just a port I think a lot of your remember what hap pend to TW ROTWW.Also there are a lot of console gamer out there way over the age of 25 that would love a game like this I belong to one forum of older games and there membership is way over 20000 and that just one of the older gamer forums and in case your wondering yes I play on the console as well and no I don't live in my mom basement move out when I was 16
 
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username_2065749

Senior user
#76
Apr 19, 2011
Chauntea said:
Nice joke about DA2 being excellent RPG. Had a good laugh :)
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Truly. I am playing it again as a mage(it plays different than as a warrior, let me tell you)and I am gritting my teeth when I stumble on the bad plot items. They make me angry.
 
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archaven.84

Senior user
#77
Apr 19, 2011
JuanCdePaz said:
JuanCdePaz said:
Nice joke about DA2 being excellent RPG. Had a good laugh :)
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Truly. I am playing it again as a mage(it plays different than as a warrior, let me tell you)and I am gritting my teeth when I stumble on the bad plot items. They make me angry.
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I've finished the first playthrough as a Rogue in Hard difficulty. Playing the second playthrough as a Mage but most dialogue is only just ESC, ESC, ESC and choose the best choice which gives (RIVALRY/FRIENDSHIP).TW/TW2 is a tricky game.. You won't know the outcome of what choices you made until couple hours later which is a good thing to deter me from reloading.. and also replayability.My opinion: Rogue=Single DPS monster, Mage=Crowd Controller and AOE monster. Haven't tried warrior myself but i dislike the Warrior Champion outfit. I like the Mage/Rogue better.
 
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Chromie192

Senior user
#78
Apr 19, 2011
archaven said:
archaven said:
archaven said:
Nice joke about DA2 being excellent RPG. Had a good laugh :)
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Truly. I am playing it again as a mage(it plays different than as a warrior, let me tell you)and I am gritting my teeth when I stumble on the bad plot items. They make me angry.
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I've finished the first playthrough as a Rogue in Hard difficulty. Playing the second playthrough as a Mage but most dialogue is only just ESC, ESC, ESC and choose the best choice which gives (RIVALRY/FRIENDSHIP).TW/TW2 is a tricky game.. You won't know the outcome of what choices you made until couple hours later which is a good thing to deter me from reloading.. and also replayability.My opinion: Rogue=Single DPS monster, Mage=Crowd Controller and AOE monster. Haven't tried warrior myself but i dislike the Warrior Champion outfit. I like the Mage/Rogue better.
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If your gonna play a Warrior definitely play Vanguard/Beserker. So much fun and by the end game your pretty much unstoppable. That's the best thing about the Witcher. The consequences of your actions don't happen immediately so it does add a lot to the replay value because you can't simple choose something and if you don't like it you reload. No you choose an action/dialogue and you stick with your decision.As for this game coming to consoles. Well I'm already getting it for PC but if it came to consoles at least my friends would be able to play it. None of them play on PC..mind you I'm only 19 so my generation is all about shooters unfortunately. I have some friends who plan on tying me down so they can play Witcher 2 on my computer.They are excited for the game but won't be able to play it fully. At least on a console more people can play an excellent franchise and CDProjekt makes more money (hopefully) because I would definitely buy a Witcher 3 or DLC from them.
 
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ezjohny

Forum regular
#79
Apr 19, 2011
This is a proven fact the console version is whats holding the PC back from it's full potential!!! If the console developers would get off there butt's and make an up to date console that runs like the PC then thing would be different with how video game are developed!There's an artical in the GameInformer, the founder of Cry Tek "Cevat Yerli" talks about how PC is getting put to the side!Make a console with an intel i7 970 6 core and a DX11 chip that you could update when there is another version of direct x that comes out, this would be up to date!!!
 
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luscsul

Senior user
#80
Apr 19, 2011
ezjohny said:
This is a proven fact the console version is whats holding the PC back from it's full potential!!! If the console developers would get off there butt's and make an up to date console that runs like the PC then thing would be different with how video game are developed!There's an artical in the GameInformer, the founder of Cry Tek "Cevat Yerli" talks about how PC is getting put to the side!
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True, even BF3 developers are confirming that
 
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