Well, I just went to youtube to sample a few vids of him.. still obnoxious.theFixer said:
Yes, I did say I don't see the usefulness of a review of any subjective matter.
You make a good point.frynse said:
I will also add, regarding youtube and who's at fault here (if anyone really is at fault)l I am not drawing any conclusions based on whatever this guy says or that guy blogs, without knowing all of the facts.
I am curious..... How old are you? Where do you live?and what do you do for a living?SystemShock7 said:
This is what needs to happen because the right to creative content is under attack from the corporate douchebags who can apparently run roughshod over any fucking law they please. Fuck them. People need to understand how important it is to have creative content on the internet regulated in a fashion that's fair for the publisher, creator and purchaser. It wouldn't be hard if it weren't for all the meddling from companies like Google. They want to block access to stuff like this, but they also want everything save your DNA to whore out to companies for advertising. Jesus this shit pisses me off...gregski said:
Google's mission statement appears to be "If it ain't broke, break it". They've managed to take something that was working fine, and change it so that NOBODY wins.
Perhaps Warner Bros and other companies were threatening YT with law suits if they won’t do something about copy righted content being copied all over website and used without their permission, a lot of movies and music videos are being posted on YT. It's easy download video and just posted on your own channel. Publishers are saying they didn't ask for it.. yea sure.dragonbird said:
Those filters YT is now using are total bs, they are flagging everything. But its YT fault they created the software or paid someone to do it.
I feel bad for those people who support families just from YT money.
Yes, that's why nobody could have predicted it. Unless some major shit-storm from somebody high and mighty was about to hit, and Google simply covered its ass ASAP, this action does not make any frigging sense.dragonbird said:
I am (or was) a big fan of youtube. It is (or was) a terrific site with thousands of great and free videos I enjoyed watching. Such a shame it came to this.
Actually no,dragonbird said:
the reason this whole fiasco started was because the bigger youtube channels who are affiliates are finally getting hit. Smaller channels who are only youtube partners but not affiliated have had to deal with contentId claims for years.
In essence, affiliates are supposed to keep this from happening by making sure the channels do not post copyright infringed content, but when youtube sees that there are still problems... it flipped the switch for contentId to ALSO target affiliated channels.
There are three ways this can go:
1. Trust in youtube & google to fix the contentId robots
2. Putting common sense and perspective into play. Many game publishers have written expression that content creators CAN monetize gameplay videos (for example Blizzard and deep silver). Game publishers who own the rights can pressurize youtube into changing its system.
3. Go Nuclear. Take this to court and add laws made specifically for video game content usage. Right now, The digital millenium act is old, archaic, and has not been updated to include new media and video games (something that has spread like wildfire these past 10 years.
To be honest, i want to go with option 3. Simply because 1 & 2 simply deals with youtube while the core problem is in the law. DMCA needs to be updated, simple as that. But this route will require LOTS of money, time, and lawyers. The biggest content providers like Machinima, Rev3, gamespot, and god forbid, Pewdiepie are insignificant, legally speaking, compared to the giant monoliths of the old media .
Just my 2 cents.
Pre-requisite videos to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JqjDhuPFaQ (Totalbiscuit on youtube contentid system)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt1ubSVMwaw (Live discuission hosted by Rev3games with a panel of: TotalBiscuit, FarFromSubtle, itmeJP, Fork Parker and Adam Sessler! )
My initial reaction was also that this was due to the media companies, but looking into the details, it appears to be entirely down to Google. The media companies are responsible for the fact that monsters like the content system exist, but the decision to suddenly start this particular campaign seems to have come entirely from Google.Saoe said:
A game developer/publisher is effectively forced to use the content system, even if they're perfectly happy to let people make videos, because if they don't, someone else will claim ownership and there's an even worse fuck-up. I saw this happening with a composer - he created soundtracks that anyone can download and use freely, for personal or commercial use, under a CC licence. Unfortunately, there was some incidents where commercial companies used his music for promos or adverts, registered it with Youtube, and then, suddenly, every OTHER person who had ever used the same music got hit by takedowns. The composer helped those affected to get it rectified, but was told by Google that the only way he could stop it happening again was to register the tracks himself, with a "I don't care what anyone does with it" flag.
I suspect that game developers and publishers did pretty much the same, but with a slightly more-restrictive flag setting, and now Google has decided to change the interpretation of that flag without telling anyone in advance.
And no, I don't that that the majority of developers/publishers asked for this. There are some out there who don't like videos being made, such as Nintendo, but most seem to be fully aware of the benefits of the videos. There may be a few people making a living wage out of monetization, but the overall value of this isn't THAT high compared to game sales and PR costs, and the bad publicity, and the effort they're currently having to put in to reverse the takedowns, is probably a much bigger cost than whatever advertising revenue they may get.
@atc - I'd love to see your option 3 happening, but I'm pretty sure that if anyone tries to change DMCA right now, it'll get worse, not better. I don't think it's bottomed out yet.
Definitely don't think it was publisher pushed, not when Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft, Deep Silver, and Capcom are attempting to push Google back. I still don't get it, YouTube personalities get to make money, publishers/developers get a little bit of advertisement, and YouTube gets money from the ads placed. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the top 20 most subscribed and watched channels mainly video game related? Angry Joe, Roosterteeth, Totalbiscuit, Pukie Pie?
I dont like his videos but i hope this crap stops hapenning as soon as possible, and also for all other youtubers.
Ikr....Csszr said:
I've gotten to the stage where I cant be bothered logging in and I just have to do the rounds to see if anything new has been uploaded.
So this is how you promote things in the market during this day and age..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpkJoQUFqXM
Edit: Fucking embedding error, you strike again Youtube..
Did you even read my post? The point is that disagreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to call that said person an idiot. Like I said, THERE ARE VIDEOS OF HIS THAT I ALSO DISAGREE WITH but that doesn't mean that I think he's an idiot. I don't get how you align that with "infatuation".SystemShock7 said:
Nope it's still an opinion. If there are things that you thought were flawed, that doesn't mean that it's a fact.Ancient76 said: