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braindancer12

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#921
May 9, 2015
Leteia said:
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why not this style?

 
mecha_fish

mecha_fish

Rookie
#922
May 10, 2015
if there's a mod, i'd use it, but if not, i dont care. it's video game-- having a beard that grows in real time is goddamn hardcore. i notice people are complaining about the dudes and not the ladies hmmm? there's a modern aesthetic for ladies to have no body hair and they've been presented like this for ages in games. i'm just sayin'.
i am not at all complaing at all these shots of mostly nude dudes, though, hairy or otherwise, keep em coming.

as for Ves, I think it is her. I think we will be able to meet a good number of people from tw2 depending on our choices.

i'm also greatly impressed by Yennefer's appearance now :)
 
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CharmCitysKing

Senior user
#923
May 10, 2015
Is there anyone from TW2 in here? Dandelion? Roche? The Midget Guy? Letho? any Witchers from the past or any characters from the books?
 
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Ljesnjanin

Forum veteran
#924
May 10, 2015
CharmCitysKing said:
The Midget Guy?
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I guess there will be a lot of midget guys around :D
 
mecha_fish

mecha_fish

Rookie
#925
May 10, 2015
CharmCitysKing said:
Is there anyone from TW2 in here? Dandelion? Roche? The Midget Guy? Letho? any Witchers from the past or any characters from the books?
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How do you mean? I'm pretty sure all the characters you've mentioned will be present in tw3 provided they're alive. Same with any book characters. I'm sure a list will turn up in the next 10 days or so.

Or do you mean discussed in this thread?
 
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luzarius

Senior user
#926
May 10, 2015
Concerned about Witcher series in regards to LGBT/Feminism

I'm not sure what the norm is on these forums in regards to speaking your mind. Hopefully my thoughts will be accepted here and I will find myself amongst like minded individuals.

Dear CD Projekt,

Please don't let any type of politically correct BS cloud or disrupt your creative freedom the way it destroyed Bioware's Dragon Age Inquisition. I want equality in gaming, I want female gamers to enjoy games too, but not at the expense of content removal and censorship. I feel like I need to simply show my support for what you guys are doing with the Witcher series. I'm a fan of beautiful women and art in all forms and no one is going to change that, NO ONE. Please know that there are a lot of gamers like me out there and we're in your corner, if you need us call upon us in anyway. I'm a huge Witcher fan and hope you guys never bow down to feminists or the LGBT community just to be politically correct.

I do not like the romance options for straight males in Dragon Age Inquisition. Cassandra Pentaghast looks like a man and Josephine looks more like a "Joseph". How does this relate to Witcher? I love all the beautiful women that are modeled for the Witcher games and I NEVER want to see that changed.

I support a writer's creative freedom to simply write what they want without being forced to add anything to simply appease a small group.

Example:
* George RR Martin: 'It's not a democracy. You can’t just insert things because everyone wants to see them.'
* George RR Martin said the books are narrated through his "viewpoint" characters, so he was more limited than the TV shows. "Frankly, it is the way I prefer to write fiction because that is the way all of us experience life. You're seeing me from your viewpoint, you're not seeing what someone over here is seeing."

Long story short, please do not give in to the LGBT and feminists just to be politically correct. I repeat, I want more female gamers, I want equality, BUT not at the expense of content removal and censorship. I don't even mind gay content, but I don't want it thrown in just for the hell of it. I want writers to always have their creative freedom to write what they want from their point of view based upon their life experience.

What I've learned from Dragon Age Inquisition & from this new Bioware is that feminists and some LGBT (keyword some) want censorship and I'm completely against that with every fiber of my being.

The Brothel

I do not condone the solicitation of prostitution in real life, I'm against women turning to this profession to make a living. However, this does not mean I want it to be removed from the game. Bioware removed brothels from their game to be politically correct. Please do not do this. It pleases me a great deal to see Brothels in the Witcher 3 and am looking forward to taking Geralt of Rivia there. Visiting brothels is a staple of any well made RPG, women need to understand and accept this and if anything, they should be treated to similar content so they can be entertained and amused as well.

Highly sexual female NPCs

I'm a man, I'm a fan of beautiful women. Nothing will change this. Women must accept this from men. I like to see gorgeous women in everyday life, including games.

Hope I didn't offend too many people, but after Dragon Age Inquisition, we need to seriously show our support for gaming companies who are strong enough and brave enough to not give in to the pressure from some (keyword some) LGBT and feminists who desire censorship instead of equality.

Games that I enjoyed:

- Mass Effect Series
- Witcher Series
- Dragon Age Origins (Not the 2nd and definitely not the 3rd one DAI)
- Pillars of Eternity
- Kotor
- Vampire the Masq. Bloodlines

Games I DESPISE:
- Dragon Age Inquistion

*cheers*



Luzarius
http://www.twitch.tv/luzarius
 
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Cheylus

Cheylus

Senior user
#927
May 10, 2015
The game is done already.
You can only romance dwarves unfortunately (non bearded ones), so you're too late...
 
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Dona.794

Forum veteran
#928
May 10, 2015
Let me get this straight: women asking for more diversity in character design are calling for "censorship", but you asking to see only one type of a woman, that is beautiful to you, is totally not, and we should "understand" you? CDPR should cater to your tastes, and your tastes only, instead? Please, Luzarius, you're better than this.

Anyway, the game's been done for a while, I'm sure it will contain many things you're asking for anyway.
 
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Scryar

Scryar

Forum veteran
#929
May 10, 2015
@luzarius
CDP is (thanks god) not Bioware. Female characters are still allowed to look beautiful and don' need to t look masculine like most of the women in Dragon Age Inqusition.
Brothels still exist, so do succubus (the equivalent to Desire Demons, which Bioware removed in Inqusition)
 
mecha_fish

mecha_fish

Rookie
#930
May 10, 2015
I'm pretty sure CDPR's ability to write believable characters trumps their need to fill a quota or even to cater to your needs, though. If you're worried about Bioware, they were probably just writing some stories and designing some characters with a particular audience that isn't you in mind. That's fine, they can do that. If they write them well and design them meaningfully, then there should be no problems.

I'm not sure particularly why you're so passionate about this, since a lot of games -- and I mean, a lot of games -- have many sexualised, beautiful women at your disposal. I don' think that's about to change any time soon, to be honest, regardless if companies include storylines and characters that cater to the wider audience that isn't heterosexual cismen, I do believe incredibly attractive people are going to be present in media forever.
luzarius said:
Women must accept this from men.
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Womenfolk don't have to do anything.
 
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luzarius

Senior user
#931
May 10, 2015
Scryar said:
@luzarius
CDP is (thanks god) not Bioware. Female characters are still allowed to look beautiful and don' need to t look masculine like most of the women in Dragon Age Inqusition.
Brothels still exist, so do succubus (the equivalent to Desire Demons, which Bioware removed in Inqusition)
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I've come to the right place then. :) You don't know good it feels to see you write this. You knew exactly what I was talking about right off the bat.

Engagerade said:
Ah for fuck's saks, what bollocks View attachment 13767 Fuck forbid to have any diversity in the female cast? no? they must all be beautiful for it is what we enjoy watching otherwise it's fucking censorship? appearance is completely subjective speaking of Cassandra and Josephine, what do you call the people that think they are attractive? are their thoughts somehow invalid to yours?
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So what percentage of females have to be ugly to make you happy? You might as well put the information out there. If the game has any romance options, please make one a supermodel for me though, thank you. You'll find that I'm willing to sacrifice a lot for other peoples happiness, just don't give me a romance option in which the female looks like a male (cassandra pentaghast). That is not too much to ask.

Women needs to accept that they should be attractive because it pleases you? what kind of fucking backwards shite is this?
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Let's flip the roles real quick. Don't you realize that a lot of men take the time to improve themselves for the ladies? There are a lot of things I do in my life to please a woman. How is that backwards? It makes me feel good to make a woman smile. Some women will take the time to look as attractive as possible and they would win a guy like me over. This is not a new concept. This same concept applies to me, I have to do my best to win her over. If I'm twenty pounds over weight, I don't want any woman to accept that of me, I want them to shame me into the gym asap.

On a side note, you come on strong, I respect that. I respect this forum even more now if they let people speak their mind like this. Please relax, I'm not talking about real life. I'm talking about virtual fantasy worlds. In real life just be yourself and I'll buy you a drink :)

Precisely as you said, its not a democracy that's why BioWare can do whatever the fuck they want regardless of what your or i think of it.
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Dragon Age Origins had two female romance options in which both of them were beautiful and looked like women (leliana, morrigan). Dragon Age 2 had Isabela. Dragon Age Inquisition had...........Christopher Pentaghast & Joseph..... *shudders*

Secondly CD Projekt RED are a Polish company and Slavs do not tend to give a shit about political correctness, and thank fuck for that.
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*cheers*

mecha_fish said:
I'm pretty sure CDPR's ability to write believable characters trumps their need to fill a quota or even to cater to your needs, though. If you're worried about Bioware, they were probably just writing some stories and designing some characters with a particular audience that isn't you in mind. That's fine, they can do that. If they write them well and design them meaningfully, then there should be no problems.
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My problem with DAI is the removal of the brothel, removal of sexy desire demons, removal of sexual female content that was formerly in dragon age origins & dragon age 2. This is called censorship. Then to rub salt in the wound, they purposely made Cassandra Pentaghast look like a man and made Josephine as fugly as possible.

I'm not sure particularly why you're so passionate about this, since a lot of games -- and I mean, a lot of games -- have many sexualised, beautiful women at your disposal. I don' think that's about to change any time soon, to be honest, regardless if companies include storylines and characters that cater to the wider audience that isn't heterosexual cismen, I do believe incredibly attractive people are going to be present in media forever.
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I can't let my guard down, it's important that straight male gamers show their support for any gaming company that has not given in to feminists and some (keyword some) LGBT people who want censorship in games.

NO TO CENSORSHIP, YES TO A WRITERS CREATIVE FREEDOM.

Womenfolk don't have to do anything.
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Well, I took the time to understand a woman's point of view, so they are going to take the time to understand mine. Mine is simple though:

I'm attracted to extremely beautiful women.

There you go, I'm done, see was that so hard? LOL

Dona.794 said:
Let me get this straight: women asking for more diversity in character design are calling for "censorship"
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I don't know what to say. I don't want to offend you. I'm just a simple cave man. My post was in regards to Dragon Age Inquisition removing brothels, removing sexy desire demons, removing nearly all beautiful women from the game (except morr, leliana). Men like to see beautiful females in any walk of life.

There's equality and then there's censorship. I want you to enjoy games on the same level as me, but without any censorship of the females. This means if CDPR makes a game for the ladies, I would expect there to be many handsome men/eye candy for you to enjoy.

Now, let me show you an example of what I want from any romance option that is for straight males.

This is a female version Cassandra Pentaghast modeled with female facial proportions. As you can see, she looks like a woman now and not a man.


Cassandra Pentaghast's vanilla model was designed from a male human skull. The left is how she looks in game, like a man, the picture on right is modded to give her female facial proportion.


but you asking to see only one type of a woman, that is beautiful to you, is totally not, and we should "understand" you? CDPR should cater to your tastes, and your tastes only, instead?
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I have no problem with CDPR catering to women, as I said in my post I want female gamers to enjoy the game on the same level as me, but WITHOUT censorship. I'm all for equality.

If they make another franchise where the lead character is a woman, I would have no problem with that. A lot of guys play female characters anyways. I'd still play the game in a heartbeat.

Women need to understand, I want more eye candy for you, but I want my eye candy UNTOUCHED BY POLITICAL CORRECT BS.
 
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RedFire01

Rookie
#932
May 10, 2015
luzarius said:
Long ramble.
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Wat. Just because a woman in a game doesn't look beautiful doesn't mean the developers are "catering to Feminism". It just means that character isn't beautiful. That's it, there's nothing more to it. And it also doesn't mean that their creative vision is being censored by Feminism. It just means that they WANTED to have a game where not every woman is beautiful.

luzarius said:
I'm a man, I'm a fan of beautiful women. Nothing will change this. Women must accept this from men. I like to see gorgeous women in everyday life, including games.
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And why should developers cater to your wants? What about diversity? Why can't there be beautiful, ugly, plain and attractive women?

luzarius said:
Visiting brothels is a staple of any well made RPG.
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Again, wat. No it's not, at all.

luzarius said:
Hopefully my thoughts will be accepted here and I will find myself amongst like minded individuals.
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Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a forum? To discuss topics with varying viewpoints?
 
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ALPES

Rookie
#933
May 10, 2015
RedFire01 said:
Wat. Just because a woman in a game doesn't look beautiful doesn't mean the developers are "catering to Feminism". It just means that character isn't beautiful. That's it, there's nothing more to it. And it also doesn't mean that their creative vision is being censored by Feminism. It just means that they WANTED to have a game where not every woman is beautiful.
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And whether a woman is "beautiful" is highly subjective.
 
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Cheylus

Senior user
#934
May 10, 2015
The skull part was funny though.
 
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luzarius

Senior user
#935
May 10, 2015
RedFire01 said:
Wat. Just because a woman in a game doesn't look beautiful doesn't mean the developers are "catering to Feminism". It just means that character isn't beautiful. That's it, there's nothing more to it. And it also doesn't mean that their creative vision is being censored by Feminism. It just means that they WANTED to have a game where not every woman is beautiful.
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It's one thing to not be beautiful, but it's entirely different to purposely design the supposed woman to look like a man.

RedFire01 said:
And why should developers cater to your wants? What about diversity? Why can't there be beautiful, ugly, plain and attractive women?
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Because they are currently catering to my wants with Witcher 3. But hear me out. What can I do to help female gamers get more of the content they want, without censoring content males like?

So what you're saying is that in a fantasy world, you want realistic looking women?

RedFire01 said:
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a forum? To discuss topics with varying viewpoints?
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I'm always trying to understand different points of views, that is why women have won my support for equality, but I won't give in to censorship. If the creators want to make a beautiful women, I'm going to back them up. If women want to see a handsome looking male in game, I'll back them up. That's where I stand.

Please keep in mind, I'm not talking about real life. I'm talking about the game.

Cheylus said:
edit: nevermind

There was an argument before about Yennefer's face. I liked her "old face". I thought women in TW1 and 2 all looked the same, except for hair color and haircuts. Now she looks like anyone or no one to me.
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Yennefer looks beautiful, got my stamp of approval.

She looks so much better than Cassandra. I hate to compare such a beautiful model to Christopher Pentaghast. CDPR I don't mean any offense.


Kinley said:
I'd like to remind people that this is a thread for discussing Character Appearances in Witcher 3 .
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Hello my friend, my original post was in general discussion. Then it got moved here. I guess my goal with this post is to reinforce what CDPR is doing. I just want to show my support of how incredible the women look in Witcher 3 compared to the man-women in the debacle known as Dragon Age Inquisition.

Simply put and with respect, I just want to tell CDPR, Please do not do what Bioware did to Dragon Age series with Inquisition which involves censorship and making the straight male romance options look like men.
 
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Cheylus

Cheylus

Senior user
#936
May 10, 2015
edit: nevermind

There was an argument before about Yennefer's face. I liked her "old face". I thought women in TW1 and 2 all looked the same, except for hair color and haircuts. Now she looks like anyone or no one to me.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#937
May 10, 2015
I'd like to remind people that this is a thread for discussing Character Appearances in Witcher 3 .
 
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mecha_fish

Rookie
#938
May 10, 2015
luzarius said:
So what percentage of females have to be ugly to make you happy? You might as well put the information out there. If the game has any romance options, please make one a supermodel for me though, thank you. You'll find that I'm willing to sacrifice a lot for other peoples happiness, just don't give me a romance option in which the female looks like a male (cassandra pentaghast). That is not too much to
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What does ugly mean? Dude, this stuff is subjective as all hell. And as I said, there will always be classically beautiful people, male and female, in most modern media.

Seeing as we've established that this is more about games in general, I'm not sure any of this has any relevance to the Witcher games. Especially since we've established the game contains characters to your liking.
luzarius said:
Women need to understand, I want more eye candy for you, but I want my eye candy UNTOUCHED BY POLITICAL CORRECT BS.
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I think you're making a lot of assumptions about the people who have a problem with this particular attitude that you're advocating.
luzarius said:
I have no problem with CDPR catering to women, as I said in my post I want female gamers to enjoy the game on the same level as me, but WITHOUT censorship. I'm all for equality.
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I'm not sure how you want this to work. Censorship implies that something is being taken away or obscured. If the character is created to fit a particualr ideal from scratch, nothing is being censored. And if the company choose to write characters and then design them a particular way, then so be it. If the majority like it, then they like it. Equality? The equality you're talking about really doesn't sound like equality -- it sounds like you're proposing a quota for your own minority -- which I feel I need to stress: isn't a minority.
 
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Cheylus

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#939
May 10, 2015
luzarius said:
I don't mind the body, but the face is that of a man.
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In your "skull" montage you added earrings, you deleted parts of her armor to give her a longer neck, and you made her smile to prove your point.
That's creepy.

And you deleted or diminished the scars too. Because women have to hide their scars to be beautiful.

You know that Yennefer is one ugly old hunchback under all her magic?
 
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luzarius

Senior user
#940
May 10, 2015
Cheylus said:
In your "skull" montage you added earrings, you deleted parts of her armor to give her a longer neck, and you made her smile to prove your point. That's creepy. And you deleted or diminished the scars too. Because women have to hide their scars to be beautiful.
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Experimentation, the other version has the scars intact with no smile. I like Adela's version more than mine. Whatever your interpretation is, that's fine. I'm also a modder so this is a hobby to mess around with character models, textures, concept art, etc.

mecha_fish said:
What does ugly mean? Dude, this stuff is subjective as all hell. And as I said, there will always be classically beautiful people, male and female, in most modern media.

Seeing as we've established that this is more about games in general, I'm not sure any of this has any relevance to the Witcher games. Especially since we've established the game contains characters to your liking.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about the people who have a problem with this particular attitude that you're advocating.

I'm not sure how you want this to work. Censorship implies that something is being taken away or obscured. If the character is created to fit a particualr ideal from scratch, nothing is being censored. And if the company choose to write characters and then design them a particular way, then so be it. If the majority like it, then they like it. Equality? The equality you're talking about really doesn't sound like equality -- it sounds like you're proposing a quota for your own minority -- which I feel I need to stress: isn't a minority.
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Let's keep it simple, I like what Witcher 3 has become. If you agree with that, then we're on the same page.
 
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