You need more than 200% Sign Intensity for it to work. A user posted his experience and videos too a few pages back where he was setting fire to these soldiers. I am also using a Signs build, but only level 22 right now. Once I unlock all the slots, I'll make some videos showing how to destroy those soldiers with Igni, way better than anything swords can do.
Also, at around 200% sign intensity and some runes, my Yrden is at more than 70% slowdown. Cast it, stand in the middle and just pick off enemies as you like. Even wraiths become trivial.
Here is a recent contract fight that I finished in about 20 secs with Yrden and Igni:
Thanks a lot !! Didn't know about this 200% thingy. I am sure once the ignite stun is activated signs build will be strongest. It possibly the best nuke and cc which can be pulled off with ease. Something like rumble's ulti in LoL, just with near zero cooldown and stun lock
On the flipside it may become boring after few tries, but it will be strongest no doubt.
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Been there. It gets boring when he becomes OP esp with signs build. Try using whirl without armor and hp buffs, ekhidna etc. It takes skills to position and zone in that way. Full alchemist (no damage) can also become pretty hard IMHO
I'm wondering if anyone here has a fast attack build with either medium or heavy armour. I have just finished my first play through using fast attacks ,a bit of quen ,and using feline armour. I played on normal difficulty...the one before blood and bones. I now want to up the difficulty,but would still like a fast combat build without cat gear. Basically i like the fast attack style but don't want to be to OP with damage. I like good fights that aren't over in seconds,but would like a decent defense to keep me alive.
I was thinking of most the fast attack tree with decent investment in quen,with either medium or heavy armor. I know cat gear is for fast attack...but i do not want use light armour. Basically kinda tanky without killing to fast and without putting hardly nothing alchemy.
Would love some advice or someone with build similar to what I've mentioned.
Thank you.
What's the earliest level you can get heavy armour?
I tried doing this. At lvl 35 u need slightly more than 200 % to pull this off. A heavy signs build gets you one-shotted with guards. So I used the 50% mutagen bonus thingy along with some alchemy skills to up his hp. I think Intensity was on 250 or something with petri's philter. You can burn guards ))) so happy )
Though their stun locks were kinda lower than those for bandits and killing bunches of guards was actually harder when the yrden sign ran out (eventually). This made the combat very intense with ten guards and I loved it. From the cc and zoning point of view this is insane.
But I found two weaknesses.
1) It has no good defense component beyond the yrden. Yrden ends up zoning yourself as well. So you have to be careful. You can heal with quen but that is a bit tricky. So the clear speed for 10 guards was atleast 4 mins for me.When a sword dps could kill them in 2 mins since whirl is also gives healing and has a better angle of effect than the igni cone
(2) Flat damage is low so you rely only on the aoe % damage nuke. The values of the percent damage are less than the crit damage values from sword (~ 2000). But with fast attack build you got 100% crit chance and a chance to poison(15% oil) and bleed(100%) on top of those crits. I believe the DPS is lower/almsot equal to sword dps
But this is precisely what makes this build FUN to play. this build has been my most thrilling and I will surely enjoy a lot more guard-bashin with this
I always stayed away from the alchemy tree during my first and current second playthrough, going for cat school with hybrid build based on combat and signs. Now after wolf school gear DLC I gave a try alchemy tree and now I see how good it is end/late game when I have almost all superior potions.
I went for hybrid build (tried heavy tank with bear armor and most alchemy skills but it didn't work for me) - fast attacks, adrenaline, wolf school gear (medium armor so griffin general bonus for signs), no signs and some alchemy skills. Cat with bonus to attack power is much more obvious but I like the look of wolf gear too much over cat/feline. Sadly I can't find enemy with level high enough (I'm level 37) for tests, except guards of course. I already killed level 48 archgriffin.
Bigger red mutagen
Resolve 5/5
Undying 5/5
Griffin School Techniques
Bigger green mutagen
Poisoned Blades 5/5 (when targeting a specific enemy) or Delusion 3/3 (when doing quests and mostly free roam in case of random events)
Refreshment 5/5
Fast Metabolism 5/5
I used for armor only runes which add 5% to attack power, 7 in total. With all that I have the base damage about 2400/1700, +77% sings power (with unsheathed sword) and 7400 vitality (and +140% of potions' duration). So I use all potions at once, toxicity (max is about 240-245) goes down very fast due to Fast Metabolism skill, I use 2 decoctions like Water Hag (increase damage at full health) and Succubus (attack power grows during the fight) so in result with 3/4 adrenaline points I get about 3700/2600 damage, signs power +102% (which is enough to help during fight) and vitality above 10k. Damage goes even higher during fight thanks to succubus decoction and when getting 4th adrenaline point. I don't need decoction to regenerate vitality because I can use any potion to get back 25% of health while prolonging the duration of that potion or just use White Raffard potion to get it back to 100%. Changing to cat/feline armor and cat school techniques (bonus fast attack damage and +100% critical damage) and bear/ursine swords (+75% critical damage) and the damage is about 4600/3200 while it gives really big actual difference with even higher critical damage than wolf gear. Pretty nice. But I still like wolf gear more and will stick to it at the cost of the bonus damage from light armor.
I tried doing this. At lvl 35 u need slightly more than 200 % to pull this off. A heavy signs build gets you one-shotted with guards. So I used the 50% mutagen bonus thingy along with some alchemy skills to up his hp. I think Intensity was on 250 or something with petri's philter. You can burn guards ))) so happy )
Though their stun locks were kinda lower than those for bandits and killing bunches of guards was actually harder when the yrden sign ran out (eventually). This made the combat very intense with ten guards and I loved it. From the cc and zoning point of view this is insane.
The guards should one hit KO you regardless of build I think, since they are way higher level than Geralt. So having more health and mutagens for HP are a waste. The point while fighting these guys is to not take any hits. And Signs build with Igni lets you do that a lot more safely as you don't have to get too close. You don't need to cast Yrden, but it can be used for extra security.
The build should be to maximize Sign Intensity. At level 35, I'd expect 300%+ intensity. Igni damage scales with Sign Intensity too. Also, sheath your sword and a single Igni might be enough to kill off soldiers. Regardless, your Stamina regen should be so fast that you can cast another Igni before the previous stun ends.
Nope. Guards cannot one-shot Geralt unless it is a full dps oriented setup. Yes. Ideally for DPS builds it should be played like 'flawless victory' on mortal kombat. Playing as a two-shotted Geralt allows me to play more risky so I just like it personally.
Do you have a level 35 300+% intensity build? Kindly share or point the link. I couldn't get it even if I got 11 blue slots, griffin tactics, maxed blue mutagens. Does sheathing sword improve magic like in case of oblivion armor did? Will try that though. Unless this shot killing works.. or basically unless the damage crosses atleast 3000-4000 real damage/second igni will not cross swords at this level but at a higher one
With Griffin Gear, Griffin School ability, Synergy Ability and 4 Greater Blue Mutagens with at least 9 blue abilities, you should easily be able to get to 300%.
Also, sheathing your sword will double or triple Igni's damage.
Yes I just saw a video. I was using wolf medium armor. Switched to Griffin with 3 Greater blues = 280% intensity, yes 4 will go above 300. sure shot burn effect )) nearly 2000 dps.
Sheathed sword. 5000 dps. As you said the guard dies with one flare. LOL . Felt like a cheat code. HAHAHAHAHA! Enjoyed that. Thanks a lot! Somehow I think that sheath bonus was made for that Olaf fight... or that troll fight or something like that... like u get bonus on crossbow underwater....HAHAHA... but it was insane fun spamming that!!!
PS: I was laughing so uncontrollably the first time I did it just slipped my fingers and got one-shotted. The poor guards, so helpless...
On my first playthrough I went for red plus a little bit of other stuff like oil-upgrades and sun&stars. That was on blood and broken bones. Now Im doing my 2nd run on the hardest mode and Im only using blue. I got quen and igni all the way plus a few boosters for those signs with the runestones. Gotta say that signs are way more fun. At this point in the game I could very well just skip the swordplay and fight only with signs. Igni all the way will take care of most foes while quen will regain my vitality when needed.
Next time (yes there will be a 3rd time) Ill try something else. Or I just buy a potion of clearance and try something else.
Next stop yrden build. Sounds funny. har har.. there is so much to do in this game!!
Rocksteady turned out to be a terrible disappointment from day 1. No innovation, higher price, cannot deliver on day one, their steam download restarts and makes u download 35 GB second time and NVDIA game ready driver is kinda buggy. It slowed down by Witcher 3 to 20 FPS. ANd who makes a PC game locked at 30 FPS. Never gonna buy from them again.
Witcher 3's first day was the most enjoyable day I had in in many months. There is still so much in this game. Also the community on this forum is not toxic. CDProjekt rulez!! Full support!
That's also on my plans. Currently level 23, and upgraded my gear to Superior Griffin, and now I have 87% Yrden slowdown. Once I unlock the last mutagen slot, I'll most likely have 100% slowdown. That should be fun haha!
Well idk if I am in the right thread. It says kick ass so: Just beat archgriffin in Master Armorer at lvl 12. On DM.
Obviously did Dumplings too. At lvl 10. And won all the fights. lvl 10.
This is bragging post.
Oh and I guess if anyone wants my specs and tactics, let me know, I ll post it
Well idk if I am in the right thread. It says kick ass so: Just beat archgriffin in Master Armorer at lvl 12. On DM.
Obviously did Dumplings too. At lvl 10. And won all the fights. lvl 10.
This is bragging post.
Oh and I guess if anyone wants my specs and tactics, let me know, I ll post it
Not entirely true. Yes there is some bragging here. But more to understanding how the game works, so that you can maximize yourself and have the best possible fun that the game can provide. Any game these days takes weeks or even months to understand properly how it works depending on which game we talk about. MOBAs can take a year to get really good at. But offline games are so much quicker and we want to extract the fullest entertainment before we move on. It is faster if people on forums interact.
So yeah, your brag post will be awesome if it contains useful data
Thankfully, best builds still do not make you a Dragonborn and you still gotta be a bit careful. So braggin will atleast involve some dodging and placement skill, not that its much ... but atleast better than grinding armor sets and clicking on opponents to be the invincible dragonborn
Well idk if I am in the right thread. It says kick ass so: Just beat archgriffin in Master Armorer at lvl 12. On DM.
Obviously did Dumplings too. At lvl 10. And won all the fights. lvl 10.
This is bragging post.
Oh and I guess if anyone wants my specs and tactics, let me know, I ll post it
Got ya. Well first off patience and skill mechanics after you die 100 times. lvl 7 Skellige pirates and sirens: Axii, I think level 2 was enough, stun, immediate stab, kill. I might have been carrying some kind of really low level relic. I think Mahakam steel with 75 crit damage. dont think it will affect that though. Swam to Novigrad, sold loot, went to Skellige. Fight Club: Just takes time to get it. Use dodge and heavy hits against Skellige, and one or two in Novigrad. Roll out of the way, use dodge, wait until they launch heavy attack, parry, 2 heavy hits, block, release block, time the hit, parry.... Usually when you begin just smash fast.
Olaf - hardest fight. Turns very quickly. Have thunderbolt and swallow, go with full health. Block is not going to work. Get behind on the left side get some heavy hits, roll away.
The Champion fight. Its awesome loved it. Same pattern as with the bear except two things: when he attacked and put his hmmmm paws? Hands? on the ground you can get bunch of hits in. When he yells and starts flailing his limbs just roll/run away as fast as possible until he stops.
Dumplings:
Axii, when you get to dwarfs, go to the opposite side where you begin the fight, and use firestream igni with greater blue mutagen and griffin armor. They will never go towards you, beware of arbalest. Itll take some time, or you can just run around and trigger second stage. All human fight just run away, use axii and quen. Your helpers will keep majority away.
Archgriffin. This guy cost me lots of time. Hate him, hate that quen expires, hate slow roll, weak arbalest. That when you reload or meditate hes full health. That guy will kill you. Thats it. SO: Allprevious described setup, plus, hybrid oil(reg), tracking bolt!!!!!!, Lots of quen, rolling, and making sure quen is up. Hit him with a crossbow, hit with oil with 2 levels into oil efficiency, -100 armor and hell be poisoned too. Bolt him until he goes on hind legs or you really close, roll to his left under his wing right into the torso, try to stunlock him, only fast attacks. When he breaks out or it doesnt happen run for your life. Get some hits in, and try again. I also used all the signs. And i had greater green, 2 in oil, 1 in slowdown, 3 in fast attack, griffin school, and 3 quen, 3 axii, 3 igni firestream. Only different from griffin, had alder folk boots on with like 18 only armor.
At level 10 you had how many skill points to spend and what did you put them in. Finally, you have 6 talent tree slots at level 10 so which ones did you use?
At level 10 you had how many skill points to spend and what did you put them in. Finally, you have 6 talent tree slots at level 10 so which ones did you use?
Idk man, 2 less then now, i can prob load and see. 3oil, 1slowdown, 3 fast, 3 aard, 3 axii, 3 igni, 1 yrden, 3 quen. griffin school, adrenaline sign cast, so -2 will be oil and slowdown oil(got it for green mutagen)
igni quen axii with blue, fast, oil, griffin school(think so)
It doesnt affect fights though.U fight naked
ill try to find some saves and see forsure
but thisis mostly about blue mutagen, signs, and mechanics
Endgame builds, although neat to see, aren't as interesting to me as mid-game, level 20+ or so builds. I spend a lot of time around the 30+ skillpoints mark so I find I ration them carefully.
My current build at level 24, wearing Ursine Armour and Swords. Adrenaline focussed. Superior Blizzard for endless Whirl when necessary:
Endgame builds, although neat to see, aren't as interesting to me as mid-game, level 20+ or so builds. I spend a lot of time around the 30+ skillpoints mark so I find I ration them carefully.
My current build at level 24, wearing Ursine Armour and Swords. Adrenaline focussed. Superior Blizzard for endless Whirl when necessary:
