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Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#321
Apr 9, 2013
I never really changed my opinion on no companions. They are up there with fourth or fifth tier stuff for the game: could be fun, very far from a priority. And that's only if done right, which no video game has done for me so far.

Character romance is a higher priority, just because although I don't feel it's a big part of Cyberpunk, ( it receives very little address in any of the rulebooks. there are no discussions of domesticity outside the initial Lifepath generation, there is no issue with...potential "issue" and there is nothing really in terms of "how do you date" or "marriage in the 21st century" or, "Falling in love: the Cyberpunk Way"), but a well-written romance with an NPC is a good high-water mark for writing and a worthy goal. Note: That's with an NPC, not a follow-you-loyally companion.
 
thewarsend

thewarsend

Forum veteran
#322
Apr 9, 2013
Well, you have done it, you angered it.. It will come after you now...



Serious bizznes.. :D

You can't argue that NPC romance is necessarily better, (even though i love Witcher 2, romance felt way too superficial and unnatural) when its a NPC romance, most of the time they will have to force-fit it into somewhere along the story line, which is almost never good.. Companion on the other hand, will be always with you (they will always be somewhere you can reach, like your safehouse or their own homes) and you can (potentially) fallow up on your romance-story line freely..

And sure, there were no "Romance and marriage in Cyberpunk for dummies" section. But it was all up to your imagination (and dice, it was up to dice as well :D ) So if you can imagine it, if you want it and if it fits the rules, you can do anything you want with romance..
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#323
Apr 9, 2013
thewarsend said:
Well, you have done it, you angered it.. It will come after you now...
Companion on the other hand, will be always with you (they will always be somewhere you can reach, like your safehouse or their own homes) and you can (potentially) fallow up on your romance-story line freely..
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by companion you mean someone who fights with you? If it's someone you hang out with frequently that's fine but it'd be weird for for two combatants who are constantly together to have a romance imo. There's a reason why there's no fraternizing in the army they'd be two distracted with each other(which makes ME romances quite silly).

One thing I don't want want romance interests to turn into is 'damsels in distress' . I want some romances to actually be useful give me some girl with an unexpectedly powerful father who can bail me out of some hopeless situation or a woman who let's the triads cut off her arm to give me more time to pay off my debt.
 
thewarsend

thewarsend

Forum veteran
#324
Apr 9, 2013
guipit said:
by companion you mean someone who fights with you? If it's someone you hang out with frequently that's fine but it'd be weird for for two combatants who are constantly together to have a romance imo. There's a reason why there's no fraternizing in the army they'd be two distracted with each other(which makes ME romances quite silly).

One thing I don't want want romance interests to turn into is 'damsels in distress' . I want some romances to actually be useful give me some girl with an unexpectedly powerful father who can bail me out of some hopeless situation or a woman who let's the triads cut off her arm to give me more time to pay off my debt.
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What? What is this?! I don't even...

You have a "very" strange way of reading things.. I never ever said such a thing.. (when you say "with" i assume you meant "against" me and not "for" me..) I made a joke about a very tiny robot attacking Sardukhar but never talked about companions attacking you... (Unless they are meant to attack you because of the way story goes) (or was it really a joke? :D such a tiny robot with incredible powers..) First part, (before the very powerful robot) i was talking/joking about the robot, second part (after the picture of very powerful robot) i was talking about companions..
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#325
Apr 9, 2013
FLEE THE TINY EYEBOT OF DOOM!

Also, I found the Witcher romances, not the sex scenes, to be kind of sweet. I'm still bothered by why so many smart, beautiful women are so entranced by a lone wolf like Geralt. They like being lonely most of the time I guess?
 
thewarsend

thewarsend

Forum veteran
#326
Apr 9, 2013
Sardukhar said:
FLEE THE TINY EYEBOT OF DOOM!

Also, I found the Witcher romances, not the sex scenes, to be kind of sweet. I'm still bothered by why so many smart, beautiful women are so entranced by a lone wolf like Geralt. They like being lonely most of the time I guess?
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Well, for the most part, (Witcher 1) they were only one night stands, not romances (which were nice but somewhat superficial and cards secretly sucked a little) and after all that we got two romance options both felt a little unfinished and superficial.. In Witcher 2 we only got Triss and romance felt short and meaningless. (more so if you dated Shani in the first game)

By the way, i believe Gerald has pheromone glands of a supernatural being, that's how he charms every women he can talk with.. That's the only explanation when you think about it.. (and i think those pheromone glands were removed by the second game.. since there is not one night stands and all :D )
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#327
Apr 10, 2013
thewarsend said:
Well, for the most part, (Witcher 1) they were only one night stands, not romances (which were nice but somewhat superficial and cards secretly sucked a little) and after all that we got two romance options both felt a little unfinished and superficial.. In Witcher 2 we only got Triss and romance felt short and meaningless. (more so if you dated Shani in the first game)

By the way, i believe Gerald has pheromone glands of a supernatural being, that's how he charms every women he can talk with.. That's the only explanation when you think about it.. (and i think those pheromone glands were removed by the second game.. since there is not one night stands and all :D )
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The one-night stands?
He's firing blanks and not carrying any nasty diseases. I'd imagine that a lot of women would have been happy when a Witcher visited their village :)
 
thewarsend

thewarsend

Forum veteran
#328
Apr 10, 2013
Dragonbird said:
The one-night stands?
He's firing blanks and not carrying any nasty diseases. I'd imagine that a lot of women would have been happy when a Witcher visited their village :)
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Well, to be fair it was a time long before they knew anything about those nasty diseases.. :) And according to the lore, most people doesn't know much about Witchers (so its unlikely they know about Witchers and their blank shoots :D ).. (unless there is a super secret fan club we don't know about :D ) So, again i will assume supernatural pheromone glands..
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#329
Apr 10, 2013
I imagine women have higher standards than a genetic eunuch who is disease free. With long white hair and a heavily-scarred but nerarly perfect body. Sort of like David Bowie crossed with Conan.

Yes. Higher standards.
 
Sunder

Sunder

Rookie
#330
Apr 10, 2013
Well, to be fair it was a time long before they knew anything about those nasty diseases..
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No, they pretty much knew about sexually transmitted diseases. Granted, they probably had some other name for them, but why the hell do you think people liked having a witch of sorts in their village or even mages in some towns (aside from the other reasons they might want one)? They were most commonly asked for ointments concerning such causes. Granted, in the games you maybe hear only a few instances about STDs, but they're there and the NPCs are aware of them. They just don't talk about it too much with complete strangers, like Geralt was.

And as for the part about how many people would know about Witcher's impotent seed and disease-free sex, I'm willing to wager that there's always "rumors" that the women share amongst themselves.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#331
Apr 10, 2013
Sardukhar said:
I imagine women have higher standards than a genetic eunuch who is disease free. With long white hair and a heavily-scarred but nerarly perfect body. Sort of like David Bowie crossed with Conan.

Yes. Higher standards.
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Much higher standards. There's also the stamina, heightened sensitivity, quick recovery....

Oh yes, he's definitely a sex object. And I'm pretty sure that the witchers themselves would have leaked this particular knowledge to the Gossip Network.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#332
Apr 10, 2013
<Gasp> The WITCHERS?! Scandalous! Why, I can't believe those fine fellows I met at Kaer Morhaen..Morhen..Mor..something would do that. I am shocked.
 
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netra

Rookie
#333
Apr 10, 2013
Sardukhar said:
Sort of like David Bowie crossed with Conan.
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That is bad...how?
 
Sunder

Sunder

Rookie
#334
Apr 10, 2013
Netra said:
That is bad...how?
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I don't think he implied it was bad.
 
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username_3661800

Rookie
#335
Apr 13, 2013
So yeah, character romances need to be in this game. Seriously. It's very fucking important to me, therefore, it has to be in the game.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#336
Apr 13, 2013
Are you..are you serious? Or doing that Internet Thing? I NEED AN ADULT!
 
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username_3661800

Rookie
#337
Apr 13, 2013
Of course. My wants and desires are the only thing that matters in the creative process.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#338
Apr 13, 2013
Pretentious Douche said:
Of course. My wants and desires are the only thing that matters in the creative process.
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As per forum rules, only one Christian Bale avatar is allowed on these forums. And Patrick Bateman isn't allowed at all.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#339
Apr 13, 2013
slimgrin said:
As per forum rules, only one Christian Bale avatar is allowed on these forums. And Patrick Bateman isn't allowed at all.
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I'm pretty sure you just made that rule up.
But the first part at least does seem reasonable....

Sorry Sard, it's got to go.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#340
Apr 13, 2013
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

But mine is so damn COOL! And Cyberpunkish! I'm wearing LEATHERS! Black leathers! I look like I'm reading this very website! See that perturbed expression? That's me trying to understand people! And not so I can trick them up later!
 
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