Agreed. This was my take on Triss as well. She isn't a pushover. She puts her own motives first. And you won't find her wailing in a tower waiting for Geralt to save her. She takes care of herself.Badpie said:
I think that's why I preferred her over Shani (well for many reasons) in the Witcher. She just seems more like a grown woman than a girl. I don't know what the ages of the characters are supposed to be but I always saw Triss as a 30-35, Geralt as a 35-40 and Shani as more 22-25. Triss just seemed to fit better on that maturity level I guess. I also love that she surely knows of Geralt's... passing interests in other ladies but doesn't seem to care much. She's perfectly aware that when it comes down to it, he loves her.
I'd place age ranges perhaps a little lower, Geralt the oldest in perhaps his mid thirties. However the way Triss talks to him, sometimes she seems his elder. Perhaps she's simply the wiser. But I'd place her in her late twenties, and Shani not even into her twenties yet.Sapkowski tends to write characters a little sharper and smarter for their age than you'd guess, Ciri is a perfect example, who is about 12 I think when she's first trading witty remarks with Triss.And yes, those redheads..... unpredictable, fun. I can't imagine Triss would respond well to being called a firebush though.
Yes, exactly. I can only agree!! She is surely capable of taking care of herself, and brings new aspects to the story. Not only a political point of view, but also a women view. And you´re right again when you say she doesn´t make a big deal out of Geralt´s romantic adventures... well she is a sorceress and has no ideals about sex life no more... Also, she´s been through so many things for her young age, many of them experienced with Geralt... and I think she proved herself a worthy ally and a friend.slimgrin said:
Oh, but that would be so much fun to watch! Who can we trick into trying it?SlateUK said:
Triss is my favorite character in both the game and the books. I wish Sapkowski had told us more about her long friendship with Yennefer, but there was no reason for him to make that much effort with a supporting character. I'm glad CDPR found a way to give her more to do, though. I agree with everyone who has pointed out how independent she is while still being a loyal (if also conflicted) friend.
In the end, she's the same way with Yennefer in spite of their romantic rivalry, which I thought was cool.
I´ve always found funny how men are generelly all crazy about redheaded womenchlong7 said:Oh, but that would be so much fun to watch! Who can we trick into trying it?chlong7 said:In the end, she's the same way with Yennefer in spite of their romantic rivalry, which I thought was cool.
Well it´s true that I fancy red or blackheaded people more than blond ones, but such almost an obsession is quite a mysterious for me. But I´m only a woman, so I leave this matter to you, guys. About calling her firebush, I think Lambert could do it, I mean there wouldn´t be much difference for her to be called Merigolg or with this nickname but I´m pretty sure he would be the only person who could go away with it, well alive. It´s nicely said in the books how proud she is about her hair and how she cherishes her reputation about them. It´s true that the Triss-Yennefer relationship is really cut down in the books. And it could actually gives a worse impression about game-Triss, because many people see her as only an astute b**ch who took advantage of Geralt´s amnesia and betrayed her best friend. Which is ridiculous, at least for me.Yes, this seems to be a popular reading, but I just don't see it myself. No, one shouldn't sneak around with someone else's partner, but sorceresses seem to have rather messy personal lives anyway. That doesn't justify Triss' choices, but it partly explains them--in Blood of Elves, it's made quite clear that her interest in Geralt began as curiosity about Yennefer's passion for him. She apparently didn't really believe in love and found out the hard way that it can be real. Ever since she's had a broken friendship and her own romantic feelings to deal with. As smart as she is and as much as she involves herself in politics, I'd still say she's more of a clutz than a cold-hearted calculator.Freesia said:
Exactly, she wanted to try something possibly interesting and new, learned her lesson about real love and she´s had many problems with it too. Anyway, her romantic interests were nicely explained in the books, I mean her changing attitude about them, and then a appear.chlong7 said:
Well sure, by all means. In the end, it´s the game what matters. Books and the game are two different things, but on the other hand, it´s quite hard to separate some characters on book/game for those who read the books. And I personally can´t take Triss only according to her behaviour in the game.fchopin said:
I don't know. I have been hearing good things about Triss and in the game they use her an awful lot. Could it be that the mirror scene was a fluke of the script writers? Because it turned me off her immediately and in a rabid way. Right now if I had the option of stabbing her I just might. She makes my shoulder blades ITCH. I hate users. I will help a friend and gladly pay for help but users are USERS and cannot be trusted. But if the mirror scene was a mistake and she can be trusted...Not that I expect her to betray me in the game---Wait, maybe it IS possible for her to betray me in the game.It is complicated. Still, I don't like her at all.
I think the mirror scene was intended to be ambiguous, so that people could interpret things in their own way.I also think the mirror scene may have been intended to balance things between Triss and Shani a bit. Both of them are beautiful and both of them have strong points, but the player meets Triss first, so we'll have formed an attachment to her before we ever meet Shani. I think having that ambiguous mirror scene casts some doubt on Triss' motives in order to weaken our trust in Triss so that the Shani-or-Triss choice will be a harder one for the player.I thought Shani's "that witch can't have her own" conversation in Chapter 3 was there for the same reason -- Shani had been so sweet and so supportive and so noble that the devs needed to make her act nasty for a bit, so that the Shani-or-Triss choice would be a harder one for the player.Personally, I like Shani. But I think Triss is a better match for Geralt. And I like it that the devs tried to even the scales between the two of them, so that choosing one or the other would be hard. And unlike the Scoia'tael-or-Order choice, there's no neutral path possible here.JuanCdePaz said:
Yes, it makes sence, because why should I choose Shani when I would still have the intact good impression of her. But on the other hand one "ambiguous" conversation isn´t for me a sufficient reason for stop trusting someone completely. But especially for those who didn´t read books it gives more space for their decisions. And that´s what great about this game.Corylea said:
Well, everyone has a different priorities and everyone can be convinced in various waysCorylea said:
She's a notable character in the books and even more important in the game, but I think Corylea is right. The mirror scene in TW1 exists to make players do a doubletake and reconsider whether they should trust/like her. It's also a reminder to people who know her from the books that she has very powerful, very dangerous associates, and Triss can get in over her head regardless of any good intentions she may or may not have. She certainly has a real soft spot for Geralt, but a soft spot can get everyone in trouble, too.I don't think there's any reason you have to like her if she makes your skin crawl. She's important to the universe, so she'll be involved in the narrative, but TW is a good rpg--there is room for different reactions. As you say, it's complicated.JuanCdePaz said:
The mirror scene with Triss...misleading. But to what end? Not sure they should have even included it, personally. It undermines everything she has done to that point, and we never get a clear answer on her motives. The one grey part of The Witcher that pissed me off.
I'm hoping that what that mirror scene was all about is one of the things that will be followed up in TW2.slimgrin said:
^ I sure hope so, as I'm absolutely obsessed with her role in the story. Still, it's dallying with the cliff-hanger technique, something they should be cautious with.
well the time is passing fast... so couple of months more and we can have a chat with her