There are no choices I can think of that I would never choose, as I believe all of them can be appropriate choices depending on the type of Geralt I am RPing.
After 2 years I still haven't played the elf route in any of the games. I was going to play with the new fcr but it looks less and less likely.
anyways, supporting the elves in 2 is like support terrorist and as a red blood 'murican that loves guns and burgers I cannot help a terrorist.
But seriously, though I might just play the elf route since supposedly you have more chances to bang than in roches.
anyways, supporting the elves in 2 is like support terrorist and as a red blood 'murican that loves guns and burgers I cannot help a terrorist.
But seriously, though I might just play the elf route since supposedly you have more chances to bang than in roches.
Not inviting anyone but Zoltan is another one i'm guilty of. He's too much of a "main" character to sideline him for secondary characters like Carmen or Thaler. Especially since Shani was actually seeing Thaler at some point, which is weird and gross.CostinMoroianu said:
This is a pretty important topic and there is definitely some sort of a trend here, namely that most of us would rather go via the Paragon rather than the Renegade route (similar statistics in the Mass Effect series although the percentage differential were not that great if I recall), even though the choices in the W1 were not as gray as in the W2, so we already got improvement in that department.
So I think we should keep this thread alive long enough for the devs to notice that they should really focus on making choices/consequences as ambiguous as possible, unless they are already working on it. Maybe the consequences may resonate not just immediately after the quest is completed and sometime later but perhaps the quest completion may indirectly affect other quests hours into the game. I can only imagine how difficult it is to craft that though.
I think that CDPR should also look into the Walking Dead series unless they haven't already. Many things determined people's choices - saving a woman over a man, or a boy over a teenager for instance - something that an overwhelming portion of us would do in real life. Telltale games succeeded in a large way because you did not see any 80-20% or 90-10% discrepancies when it came to the choices people made.
HOWEVER, at the same time preying on people's presupposed social biases towards saving women and children first is not something that CDPR is famous for.
So I think we should keep this thread alive long enough for the devs to notice that they should really focus on making choices/consequences as ambiguous as possible, unless they are already working on it. Maybe the consequences may resonate not just immediately after the quest is completed and sometime later but perhaps the quest completion may indirectly affect other quests hours into the game. I can only imagine how difficult it is to craft that though.
I think that CDPR should also look into the Walking Dead series unless they haven't already. Many things determined people's choices - saving a woman over a man, or a boy over a teenager for instance - something that an overwhelming portion of us would do in real life. Telltale games succeeded in a large way because you did not see any 80-20% or 90-10% discrepancies when it came to the choices people made.
HOWEVER, at the same time preying on people's presupposed social biases towards saving women and children first is not something that CDPR is famous for.
My Geralt was iffy in his decisions in part 1.
1. I killed the werewolf because he was a "monster", oh how naive Geralt was!
2. went the same route
3. she's always innocent, why damn someone who's innocent?
4. same, why let some ghost guy kill the man who i've been on the trail of for a while?
5. i always side w/ whichever side has a constructed army like the ORDER and ROCHE. I can't relate to rebels much.
6. I didn't kill the talking zombie in the graveyard (I thought about it though!)
7. I kill every dog I saw in town, just because I could in parts 1 and 2.
8. I attempted to harm the children who would harass Geralt in the forest (part 2).
9. Geralt didn't have sex w/ the green woman (part 1). He c*ck blocked himself... >.<
I would like to see a little diagram of what choices I've made throughout both games. Very interesting topic!
1. I killed the werewolf because he was a "monster", oh how naive Geralt was!
2. went the same route
3. she's always innocent, why damn someone who's innocent?
4. same, why let some ghost guy kill the man who i've been on the trail of for a while?
5. i always side w/ whichever side has a constructed army like the ORDER and ROCHE. I can't relate to rebels much.
6. I didn't kill the talking zombie in the graveyard (I thought about it though!)
7. I kill every dog I saw in town, just because I could in parts 1 and 2.
8. I attempted to harm the children who would harass Geralt in the forest (part 2).
9. Geralt didn't have sex w/ the green woman (part 1). He c*ck blocked himself... >.<
I would like to see a little diagram of what choices I've made throughout both games. Very interesting topic!
I go the same route too as I am an American Soldier. I agree w/ your term "terrorist". I haven't played their side so I don't know what their angle is. I don't want to be "racist"(?) but in games I'm more inclined to save HUMAN lives rather than elves etc. Even in Mass Effect I would save humans over aliens.silver001 said:
No, it does not. Just because some group of people are terrorists, does not make a different group of people anything. The non-humans do have legitimate grievances against humans though. But I would rather help the dwarves, who are mostly trying to resolve this conflict by peaceful means, then to join the bandits who kill unarmed civilians in the forest.Csszr said:
I've done everything in TW1. When you play a game 6+ times you tend to try out different things as much as possible. I can't think of any choice I haven't explored.
I've only played TW2 twice. More playthroughs are sure to come, but even with reloading and trying out various combinations in the final chapter, I've left some things unexplored, especially in Chapter 2.
Main options left unchosen are:
-Sparing Henselt (Roche Ch.2)
-Leaving Stennis to the mob (Iorveth Ch.2)
-Sneaking through Henselt's camp (Iorveth Ch.2)
-Leaving the Elf women to burn while chasing Loredo (Iorveth Ch.1)
-Attacking any Trolls (Either path, Ch. 1 & 2)
-Attacking Cynthia (Iorveth Ch.3) - I actually wanted to do this but somehow wound up being her friend at the end of the quest.
-Not exposing both Maravel and Kimbolt to Natalis(Roche Ch.3)
-Skip the sex scene with Triss in the elven baths (Ch.1)
-Successfully finish Little Sisters (Roche Ch.2) The result of this quest was opposite of what I intended to choose. I actually meant to put my trust in the soldier and help him out against the ghost but the dialogue was misleading and led to him getting pissed at me and dying on his own.
I've only played TW2 twice. More playthroughs are sure to come, but even with reloading and trying out various combinations in the final chapter, I've left some things unexplored, especially in Chapter 2.
Main options left unchosen are:
-Sparing Henselt (Roche Ch.2)
-Leaving Stennis to the mob (Iorveth Ch.2)
-Sneaking through Henselt's camp (Iorveth Ch.2)
-Leaving the Elf women to burn while chasing Loredo (Iorveth Ch.1)
-Attacking any Trolls (Either path, Ch. 1 & 2)
-Attacking Cynthia (Iorveth Ch.3) - I actually wanted to do this but somehow wound up being her friend at the end of the quest.
-Not exposing both Maravel and Kimbolt to Natalis(Roche Ch.3)
-Skip the sex scene with Triss in the elven baths (Ch.1)
-Successfully finish Little Sisters (Roche Ch.2) The result of this quest was opposite of what I intended to choose. I actually meant to put my trust in the soldier and help him out against the ghost but the dialogue was misleading and led to him getting pissed at me and dying on his own.
I hope I remember that correctly..
- What I really never do:
- Never let that mad crowd to murder Abigail
- Never let master of Order alive
- Never killed verewolf
- Never killed Gravier (on Wizima cemetery)
- Never sided with Order
- Never denied sex
- Never killed Sheala
- Never killed Saskia
- What I did just to know what happen after, but than immidiately started over from the moment before decission.
- Never chose Shani (maybe my longest try, but I didn't even finished game)
- Never chosed someone instead of Triss (Triss is easy choice for me, but I really wanted to save Philippa and I was sure Triss will be fine. I wanted to help Philippa and Sheala, but I saw what happened to sorceresses, so after that I always chose Triss)
- Never made Lady of the lake angry (just wanted to know, how she will react on that silly sentence about holy grail
- Never let Henselt alive (just for the dialogs riht after, I didn't even wait to Loc Muinne)
- Never let Cynthia and that other mage alive (obvious reason to do that, but I can't let nilfgaardian agent and betrayer of Philippa alive)
silver001 said:
You guys make me sick.silver001 said:
Exactly.silver001 said:
Could you all avoid making links between views on terrorism and real-world nationality please.
Whaaaaaaat? You condemn them as terrorists and don't even know what they're fighting for and why? Just because those threatened by them tell you so? Never thought there might be more than one side to the medal?tizleness said:
Why did you not by the same logic let the mob have Abigail in TW1? After all, the human community tells you she's a witch and therefore an abomination and a threat.
I've only finished TW1 once, though it's hard for me to do more playthroughs as I could never side with the Scoia'tael - I like Siegfried too much.
As for TW2...
Prologue: Saved Aryan more often than not.
Chapter 1: Done basically every option.
Chapter 2: I don't think I've ever spared Stennis on a Iorveth playthrough.
Chapter 3: Anais has gone to both factions. Letho lives some times, other times not so much. I don't think I've actually ever saved Triss or spared an enchanted Saskia on a full playthrough though (I've reloaded Chapter 3, but does that count?) - pre-EE saving Triss seemed less important as the massacre was less clear. And if Saskia isn't under control, then she's dead meat.
As for TW2...
Prologue: Saved Aryan more often than not.
Chapter 1: Done basically every option.
Chapter 2: I don't think I've ever spared Stennis on a Iorveth playthrough.
Chapter 3: Anais has gone to both factions. Letho lives some times, other times not so much. I don't think I've actually ever saved Triss or spared an enchanted Saskia on a full playthrough though (I've reloaded Chapter 3, but does that count?) - pre-EE saving Triss seemed less important as the massacre was less clear. And if Saskia isn't under control, then she's dead meat.
I recommend you to read saga. It cannot be described very precisly in games, but in books is this one of the main topics.
Yarpen had good speech to Ciri about this, but also this was just one oppinion.
Some elves are quite racist - they though they are higher race, they are too proud, but they arent first race, gnomes are.
But on the other side - before you call them "terrorist" - try to imagine how you live whole life in fear. If they are terrorists - what is the right name for people, which pushed them into forests, mountains, where they have to starve and they have to steal (and fight) to survive.
Yes - they also attack civilians, but also civilians attack them a human fighted against whole races - this is much worse, than some "terrorist" attacks. If there is raid in non-human part of city - are human better than elves? They are worse then elves, because they started this war.
Yarpen had good speech to Ciri about this, but also this was just one oppinion.
Some elves are quite racist - they though they are higher race, they are too proud, but they arent first race, gnomes are.
But on the other side - before you call them "terrorist" - try to imagine how you live whole life in fear. If they are terrorists - what is the right name for people, which pushed them into forests, mountains, where they have to starve and they have to steal (and fight) to survive.
Yes - they also attack civilians, but also civilians attack them a human fighted against whole races - this is much worse, than some "terrorist" attacks. If there is raid in non-human part of city - are human better than elves? They are worse then elves, because they started this war.
There's a lot of never in my games so:
W1
1.Never sided with the Order
2.NOT reconciling the Vodyanoi and villagers instead of choosing one over the other as OP.
3.Let the mob have Abigail
4.Killed Adda
5.Killed werewolf
6.killed Vetalla
7.Gave Alvin to Shani
8.Let Thaller die.
9.Kill Berengar even saved him at the ending. but it's pointless.
W2
1.Killed Letho
2.Let Sile die.
3.Killed Dragon
4.Killed the Trolls
5.Sided with Iorweth or Roche always Triss
6.let the mob lynch Steniss
7.saved the elven women
8.Let Cynthia live
9.Killed Aryan
10.Gave Iorweth sword
11.Killed Pangratt
W1
1.Never sided with the Order
2.NOT reconciling the Vodyanoi and villagers instead of choosing one over the other as OP.
3.Let the mob have Abigail
4.Killed Adda
5.Killed werewolf
6.killed Vetalla
7.Gave Alvin to Shani
8.Let Thaller die.
9.Kill Berengar even saved him at the ending. but it's pointless.
W2
1.Killed Letho
2.Let Sile die.
3.Killed Dragon
4.Killed the Trolls
5.Sided with Iorweth or Roche always Triss
6.let the mob lynch Steniss
7.saved the elven women
8.Let Cynthia live
9.Killed Aryan
10.Gave Iorweth sword
11.Killed Pangratt
Hmm, the posts have just made me realise that there ARE choices I've never made.
I've never let Thaler die.
I've never let Thaler die.
