Ciri and Alvin

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GladiatorUA said:
And what was Lara's connection to Aen Elle?
Ask Avallac'h - her lover ;)

And to this topic - all things about Alvin are quite silly. Devs maybe just wanted to set game closer to books. But they did that wrong way - they put that very easy, just collected best abilities and great power and put that into strange boy. I don't know why they did that - whole witcher saga was about Geralt and Ciri - very (maybe most) important person, which could change everything, which was hunted by everyone and which slowly learned about her very rare powers.
Now we got small boy, nobody really cares about him, he can teleport himself quite easily, he can read minds and break dwimmerit block. Seems like one Superman character between quite normal people. And that unclear thing about his future ...
I count with him like with little mistake. Inspiration is obvious, but he is not comparable to Ciri.

I think he is really not son of Ciri - there is no reason to for thinking of that.

GladiatorUA said:
This kinda makes a little bit of sense. I mean aren't Ciri's powers the same as a unicorns. They can travel through space,time and other dimensions unicorns can't probably do a bit of magic too.
Unicorns represents the highest level of magic power (for me). We don't know everything about Ciri's powers, but I expect she is more powerful than Aen Elle - that is reason, why they want her - they can't travel wherever they want. And I think (but that is just my opinion) unicorns are more powerful then her.
 
sfinxCZ said:
Unicorns represents the highest level of magic power (for me). We don't know everything about Ciri's powers, but I expect she is more powerful than Aen Elle - that is reason, why they want her - they can't travel wherever they want. And I think (but that is just my opinion) unicorns are more powerful then her.

Thread resurection.

So why isn't the Wild Hunt going after Unicorns and aren't the Aen Elle at war with them? is it because they can't fuck unicorns and produce elf centaur horse babies of prophecy.
 
guipit said:
Thread resurection.

So why isn't the Wild Hunt going after Unicorns and aren't the Aen Elle at war with them? is it because they can't fuck unicorns and produce elf centaur horse babies of prophecy.
Why would they want to go in war with them? They don't like each other, they could be called 'enemies', but that is still not reason for war. Aen Elle used them to open gate between worlds, that is all. Wild hunt isn't going after them - maybe they fear them, maybe they just have no reason. They wanted Ciri, not unicorns, she could help them to travel, wherever they want. Unicorns can do this, but they have no use for them. They really can't produce babies with them :) horses are not so good for this goal..
 
guipit said:
...and aren't the Aen Elle at war with them?

It's more like a cold war, but in the near future there will be a Unicorn War according to the prophecy.

As i understood it, the unicorns and Aen Elle are on a par in terms of power, neither of them can overwhelm the other. But the whole background story is really foggy, Sapkowski didn't explain much on this topic.
 
Hi, i found this thread only recently, while searching for explanation to alvin's elder blood.

Kallelinski said:
According to the books it is absolutely impossible, i'm not really into the whole genetic thing, but you need two matching humans with matching genetics/bloodline and so on to create such a source. Galahad
is not even from the same universe like her, so how should that work? It took over centuries, some coincidences and also incest to create Ciri.

It took centuries to create Ciri because the gen somehow split into two when Riannon gave birth to twins. Her daughter's (Fiona) line had the very weak passive gen, while her son's (Amavet) line had the domminant activator gen. Their grandchildren (Dagorad and Adalia) married and had a child. The gen was complete again. Calanthe, Pavetta - both had ancient gen in them and could marry anyone (Roegner and Emhyr were absolutely nobody), and still their offspring would have proper "elder blood" in them.
Conclusion being - Alvin could be Ciri's and Galahad's son. He could also be an offspring of some Corbet's and Muriel's bastards, but that is unlikely, since the 'experiment' was so closely watched by the mages and I doubt that Murriel could have a hidden pregnancy that nobody would know of.

I'm not a big fan of elder blood nonsense regarding Alvin but it seems to be the only possible explanation to this whole mystery. I bet that given the chance, cdprojekt red would have written the story differently.
 
( let Read part story of King Arthur and the Lady of the Lake or i may say ciri) after depart


The Lady of the Lake was the foster-mother of Sir Lancelot and it was she who raised him beneath the murky waters of her Lake.

She is, however, best known for presenting the wondrous swordExcalibur to King Arthur, at the behest of Merlin or Myrddin who knew that the young king would need such powers as the sword would give him if he were to prevail in his mission.

But before King Arthur was born, Merlin had met the Lady at the Fountain of Barenton or Brittanyand fallen so deeply in love with her that he agreed to teach her all his mystical powers.

The lady became Merlin's scribe, who recorded his prophecies, and finally she beguiled him and he became her lover. But, with time, the Lady's magical skills grew ever more powerful till she outshone even her teacher, so and she imprisoned him in Glass Tower or dungeon.

At King Arthur's Court, she came to take Merlin's position. And yet it soon became clear that Merlin's absence contributed considerably to the great king's loss of good fortune. The Lady of the Lake was eventually obliged to received her sword back when King Arthur was fatally wounded at the Battle of Camlann. Excalibur was hurled back to misty waters by Sir Bedivere. She was later one of the three Queens who escorted the King to Avalon.

The three Queens who arrived withMorgan Le Fay were the Queen of Northgales, the Queen of the Waste Land, and Nimue or Niniane the Lady of the Lake.

They took King Arthur to the Isle of Avalon where Morgan Le Fay healed his wounds.

The Lady of the Lake is usually referred to by various spellings of the names Nimue, Niniane or Vivienne.

Nimue may be related to Mneme, the shortened form of Mnemosyne, one of the nine water-nymph Muses of Roman and Greek Mythology who gave weapons, not unlike King Arthur's sword, to the heroic Perseus.

The name Vivienne suggests that the Celtic word for the Lady's name would have been Vi-Vianna.

This might suggest a derivation from Co-Vianna, which is a variant of the widespread Celtic water-goddess, Coventina.

Thus the Romans may well have identified the Celtic water goddess with their own Mnemosyne.

She was celebrated for her impressive shrine at Brocolitia or Carrawburgh on Habrian's Wall.

Here a square temple surrounded a central pool fed by a spring. Jewellery, coins and small bronze figurine offerings have been excavated. Her name may also relate to Merlin's original partner in early poetry, his wife Gwendoloena.

Since the Lady of the Lake's place as Merlin's student and lover was largely overtaken byMorgan Le Fay, a lady whose very name in Breton indicates a water-nymph, it seems that two may have been aspects of the same character or different names for the same character.

Indeed, as both appear among the three queens who escort King Arthur to the Isle of Avalon, she may have had a third aspect making up the well-known recently popular theme of a Celtic triple-goddess.

Water deities were ever present amongst the ancient British for it was they who controlled life itself, and were living as they moved.

The moving water of springs, rivers and lakes showed that the supernatural powers of the goddesses who lived within.

Offerings of weapons and other valuables were commonly made into such watery places. Rivers and waters may have also held a symbolic position as a threshold between the living and the dead.

Casting swords into the water was a gift to the Otherworld.

The practice continues today when people throw coins into wishing wells and into rivers waters under bridges, as an invocation of good luck or when they make a wish.


The Lady of the Lake is best known through the Arthurian legend.
Two of her most common names are Nimue and Vivienne, and she has strong ties to Morgan Le Fey.

According to Arthurian legend, she was the foster mother to Sir Lancelot. It is told that Merlin was in love with her and taught her all of his powers. She became his student, his scribe, and his lover.
She recorded his prophecies and she became more powerful than him. She imprisoned Merlin inside of a glass tower, either to protect him or to bind him – no one knows for sure. Whatever the reason, she did love him. And she was among the queens who escorted Merlin’s beloved King Arthur to Avalon as he was mortally wounded and lay dying.


Oil pastel by Gwendolyn LaFae

In Celtic Society the Lady of the Lake was extremely popular for her influence over the essence of life itself. They celebrated the beauty of the lakes and springs. The way the water danced and flowed was a sign of the Goddess and her supernatural powers. It was common for them to throw offerings into the waters, such as valuables and weapons. Imagine seeing Excalibur, the powerful sword which belonged to the Lady of the Lake , slowly descend down into the waters by her hand. This practice of giving offerings to the Lady of the Lake continues today in the form of “wishing wells.”
Nowadays, The Lady of the Lake is remembered as “Lady Luck.”

Pray Peace

Personal note:
I have wanted to do a project on The Lady of the Lake since I began Goddess lessons. I have had a fascination with the Arthurian legend since I was a child. I have read numerous books and papers, seen most of the movies made, and I wrote my college term paper on this legend. The male characters remain consistent in each version of the story, however when trying to focus on the females, I noticed the story lines for the female characters are not consistent. Her names, her roles, her actions and motives, they all change with each version of the legend.
So what does this tell me? We as Goddess are not easily defined. We are versatile and hard to categorize.
We are capable of fulfilling any role, and all roles. To me, The Lady of the Lake is the essential presence in an incredible legend focused on male characters. Without her they would not have a story, and without her versatility, they would not have a great story.
 
You should feel right at home in the Witcher novels and games, because there is Arthurian legend by the boatload woven into them.

The parallels are not exact, though, and it is an easy mistake to try to read more into them than is really there. Ciri sets Galahad straight on this point right at the start of Lady of the Lake: no, she is not the Lady of the Lake; and no, her sword is hers, and she does not bestow it on wandering knights.

Nimue, the Arthurian Lady of the Lake, appears as a time-traveling sorceress who takes an interest in the destiny of Ciri. In TW1, she is the central character of Act IV.

"...but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
 
Ahhh.......... yes i forgotten !!!
i not play a witcher 1 2 or 3 year now sorry i forgot i think my head max up with a Arthurian legend and witcher too much and maybe you righ.... some watery tart may threw a sword on me !!!
but anyway think you with you suggestion
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not this page too why he post some hell like this ( my ) damn brother !!!!!

he will pay for what he do to my page like this
 
I do not think so, Ciri would have been very young when he was born, and it would have been during the time of the books, where Alvin is not mentioned. Nor is this said in the games.
 
Jp7477;n9380541 said:
Is alvin ciri son ?
Alvin from TW1 = Ciri from books
The first Witcher game is basically a love letter to the works of Andrzej Sapkowski. You may even recognise many straight quotes from Witcher saga and short stories, as well as some characters from books that transformed into someone else in story of TW1 (Triss is pretty much Yennefer in it).
 
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