slimgrin said:
Therein lies the story of the WITCHER. Totally agree. />
Therein lies the story of the WITCHER. Totally agree. />
Ciriously, this idea rocks! Witcheress Ciri as protagonist for the Witcher 4, approved! And a female protagonist, for a change.
Why? I don't want to be rude, but since you are humans with brain, you should have your own opinion - you like it or not. If CDPR will accept your opinion - that is another thing, but I would reduce anwers in this poll.
And definitelly YES from me - combination of witcher and her other powers would be nice. Visiting other worlds, meeting old friends ... and maybe even deciding if she will join Chaos or Order.. Sounds very nice to me - witcher world and characters + other worlds, new characters and of course Ciri as the main.
Bothers me how you had to bring up all those " BUT IT CANT BE MADE LIKE THIS BECAUSE X ".
I dont want some character forced in the game just because some special snowflakes wants so and you know of which VERY vocal group of people im talking about , the one who plagues every gaming sites in the internet.
And who knows if they will make even a Witcher 4 , which i hope to not happen.
Also im 100% sure that Ciri will be in TW3.
http://i.imgur.com/MXPZIDV.png
I dont want some character forced in the game just because some special snowflakes wants so and you know of which VERY vocal group of people im talking about , the one who plagues every gaming sites in the internet.
And who knows if they will make even a Witcher 4 , which i hope to not happen.
Also im 100% sure that Ciri will be in TW3.
http://i.imgur.com/MXPZIDV.png
I'm not saying that there's never going to be another witcher themed game, but I also don't see it happening in the near future. CDPR first has to deliver TW3 EE, and then they have other projects too.Babli said:
Besides, a break may benefit both the team and the fans. Especially if we really have to say goodbye to Geralt for good. I don't think such a change can be accepted easily.
I somehow feel the same way. But I think that if one day they really make a game based on - for example - Ciri, all they have to do is change the title. A different title means different anticipations and if they deliver it correctly it can be quite good and enjoyable too.Babli said:
That's a good one, thanks.Babli said:This is what I have to say to everyone saying that it's so terribly difficult to make a good female protagonist:
Just keep to that thought and it will be fine.
And why is that exactly? Your very concept is offensive. Let me tell you something. We may look like male and female on the outside but inside we are human beings and as such we are the same.Babli said:No way
I feel very uncomfortably playing female characters, especially when game is focused mainly on story
There is excuses ( Portal 2 - I can play it over and over ) but not in games like witcher
You mean TS1, "The Source 1"emperorzorn said:
Fact is that she now more likely a goddess so, I see difficult to design a story and a game around her.
While I feel this topic have somewhat lived out it's usefulness here, only Rodrigo92 actually addressed something important so here goes.
A couple of reasons why Ciri shouldn't be decided by the community.
1. It creates more loose ends to the story revolving Geralt of Rivia. Seeing as the whole third game will probably be about Geralt and his search for Yennefer and Ciri, making a new game about a important person to Geralt's life and arguable the whole reason why we've played The Witcher 3 is just bad, as it opens up questions. Why did Ciri leave Geralt and Yennefer? Why aren't they coming with you etc. Even if this would be explained in The Witcher 3 it stills will remind people playing, about Geralt and Yennefer and that's a story that CD RED will tie up in The Witcher 3.
2. It's unnecessarily much catering to fans. CD RED have shown us time and again that they can make great games to us and by listening to our feedback, but to let us decide the main character is just undermining what CD RED have done for us so far and really portrait the fan base in a bad way (making requests) rather than being appreciative to CD RED for all they've done so far.
3. It's a matter of entitlement. We as the community don't hold any entitlement to make this sort of demands. What this would mean is that it would force CD RED to make a story about Ciri, something not necessary what they originally wanted to do. They should be free to decide how they want to make a new game and which story it should be about and why and not us as potential customer in the future.
4. It would create a cluster fuck of ideas flying all over the place. If we are allowed to make such a major decision (and yes this is a major decision) about a forthcoming game we will delude ourselves that why shouldn't we also get this, and that etc. Ideas would fly all over the place and nothing short but complete trash would reach the shelves once the game would potentially be released.
This is not whether Ciri would fit as a lead character, this is about the community's role here and what we have the right to press our voice about and what we haven't... And deciding who the next game should be about is a massive choice that really undermines what CD RED is. CD RED is a developer with love for gaming and making things their own way (why else would they so proudly and happily now express them as being self funded) and neither we or publishers or anyone else should have the right to change this. After all it's their product and they can do whatever they want, the only thing that matters for us if we enjoy the game or not and if it's functional to the extent of what we were promised beforehand.
A couple of reasons why Ciri shouldn't be decided by the community.
1. It creates more loose ends to the story revolving Geralt of Rivia. Seeing as the whole third game will probably be about Geralt and his search for Yennefer and Ciri, making a new game about a important person to Geralt's life and arguable the whole reason why we've played The Witcher 3 is just bad, as it opens up questions. Why did Ciri leave Geralt and Yennefer? Why aren't they coming with you etc. Even if this would be explained in The Witcher 3 it stills will remind people playing, about Geralt and Yennefer and that's a story that CD RED will tie up in The Witcher 3.
2. It's unnecessarily much catering to fans. CD RED have shown us time and again that they can make great games to us and by listening to our feedback, but to let us decide the main character is just undermining what CD RED have done for us so far and really portrait the fan base in a bad way (making requests) rather than being appreciative to CD RED for all they've done so far.
3. It's a matter of entitlement. We as the community don't hold any entitlement to make this sort of demands. What this would mean is that it would force CD RED to make a story about Ciri, something not necessary what they originally wanted to do. They should be free to decide how they want to make a new game and which story it should be about and why and not us as potential customer in the future.
4. It would create a cluster fuck of ideas flying all over the place. If we are allowed to make such a major decision (and yes this is a major decision) about a forthcoming game we will delude ourselves that why shouldn't we also get this, and that etc. Ideas would fly all over the place and nothing short but complete trash would reach the shelves once the game would potentially be released.
This is not whether Ciri would fit as a lead character, this is about the community's role here and what we have the right to press our voice about and what we haven't... And deciding who the next game should be about is a massive choice that really undermines what CD RED is. CD RED is a developer with love for gaming and making things their own way (why else would they so proudly and happily now express them as being self funded) and neither we or publishers or anyone else should have the right to change this. After all it's their product and they can do whatever they want, the only thing that matters for us if we enjoy the game or not and if it's functional to the extent of what we were promised beforehand.
Juuuhan said:
When we say our ideas and opinions, its not bounding CDP to listen to us and do everything we say dude
.Remember that CDP are still the master minds here with their own ideas and opinions and whether they listen to us or not is up to them to decide, but they themselves said hundreds of times that they are interested about what the community has to say so I dont think its wrong or harmful in any way.
No one is requesting anything or pretending anything from CDPR. It's just speculation and pure fans fantasies spoken out of their desires.
Also, i don't get who entitled you to judge whether the purpose of a topic is out of usefulness or not, and who gave you the right to decide which opinion is better of another. This is something INTO full uselessness.
Have a nice day for the top of where's eagles fly.
Also, i don't get who entitled you to judge whether the purpose of a topic is out of usefulness or not, and who gave you the right to decide which opinion is better of another. This is something INTO full uselessness.
Have a nice day for the top of where's eagles fly.
1) I don't think so - Ciri is independend character, she is not baby and Geralt is not here to hold her by hand.
In normal ending and also in ending - wedding, she start her own journey. If will Geralt's story be crowned in W3, that doesn't mean his story ends there. And definitelly not Ciri's story also ends - that could be just in ending - they live still together.. (or in bad ending).
2) True, it's only up to them if they will decide to make this game or not, but that has nothing to do with cattering of fans. Ciri is logic choice of possible main character for another game. They will probably do that, just in case they will be able to make a good game, not matter how this poll ends.
3) The same. Nobody forces CDPR to anything, and opinions from board is not reason for making/not-making game about Ciri
4) Don't take that so seriously, fans are not above devs (to order them how to create game). But their voice is also important. To choose main character is important choice, but I don't think it's bad, when fans say if they want another game with Geralt/another game with Ciri or another witcher - why not? It's that kind of decission - what would you like to play, which story you want to hear, but it has nothing to do with possible quality of that game.
I understand your worries about this, but this major choices don't determine quality, but minor details, good story, gameplay and other things determine that. This determines if players will care about that game.
If I give an example - it's like choice in Assassin's creed in which historical period will be game situated - no matter, what fans will choose it could be good or bad game.
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In normal ending and also in ending - wedding, she start her own journey. If will Geralt's story be crowned in W3, that doesn't mean his story ends there. And definitelly not Ciri's story also ends - that could be just in ending - they live still together.. (or in bad ending).
2) True, it's only up to them if they will decide to make this game or not, but that has nothing to do with cattering of fans. Ciri is logic choice of possible main character for another game. They will probably do that, just in case they will be able to make a good game, not matter how this poll ends.
3) The same. Nobody forces CDPR to anything, and opinions from board is not reason for making/not-making game about Ciri
4) Don't take that so seriously, fans are not above devs (to order them how to create game). But their voice is also important. To choose main character is important choice, but I don't think it's bad, when fans say if they want another game with Geralt/another game with Ciri or another witcher - why not? It's that kind of decission - what would you like to play, which story you want to hear, but it has nothing to do with possible quality of that game.
I understand your worries about this, but this major choices don't determine quality, but minor details, good story, gameplay and other things determine that. This determines if players will care about that game.
If I give an example - it's like choice in Assassin's creed in which historical period will be game situated - no matter, what fans will choose it could be good or bad game.
Than you are partly right (imo), I am also worried about too big influence of players, but this topic is not about that and Ciri is good choiceJuuuhan said:
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I still think Ciri might be one of the better choices to carry on
Geralt's legacy IF we really have to say goodbye to him.
She basically took a step on Geralts path, becoming more and more similar to him with every loss and struggle.
That alone makes me wonder through how much misery Geralt must have gone and
through how much more Ciri must go to have experienced the same as him.
I know that Ciri hasn't been subjected to the trials, but to me she is a witcher.
The moment when she took the medallion from the corpse of her worst nemesis I felt like
she earned her witcher status, graduated as a witcher trainee.
Uhm... that being said...
I think Ciri would make a good protagonist.
It doesn't really matter if Ciri was a man or a woman,
to me she's just a very well written, interesting character.
That, and I'm ciriously obsessed with that character.
Hope it doesn't annoy you too much.
@sfinxCZ
I know your English isn't the best, but I never regret reading your posts.
They are clever, don't insult people and usually have some good points.
Needed to say that.
Geralt's legacy IF we really have to say goodbye to him.
She basically took a step on Geralts path, becoming more and more similar to him with every loss and struggle.
That alone makes me wonder through how much misery Geralt must have gone and
through how much more Ciri must go to have experienced the same as him.
I know that Ciri hasn't been subjected to the trials, but to me she is a witcher.
The moment when she took the medallion from the corpse of her worst nemesis I felt like
she earned her witcher status, graduated as a witcher trainee.
Uhm... that being said...
I think Ciri would make a good protagonist.
It doesn't really matter if Ciri was a man or a woman,
to me she's just a very well written, interesting character.
That, and I'm ciriously obsessed with that character.
Hope it doesn't annoy you too much.
@sfinxCZ
I know your English isn't the best, but I never regret reading your posts.
They are clever, don't insult people and usually have some good points.
Needed to say that.
Actually I think the best way to use Ciri as a main character is a flashback to her training days in Kaer Morhen (like a tutorial) and then the main story focused on her days among the band of "The Rats"
I think that reading the books would totally change your mind about this. Ciri´s arc, specially her time with "The Rats" is totally mindblowing!! I cant even imagine how awesome would be to experience those days with the band, how terryfing would be to see Leo Bonhart in action! thievery, friendship, murder, love, drugs, sex, fear, great partys! it have everything to be an awesome story