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Ciri as the protagonist in the next Witcher game?

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GuyNwah

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#41
Jul 23, 2014
I would love a game with Ciri as the protagonist. If they promise us one, they can have my preorder now. But I want it to be a new story, not one contained within the books.

That is a reason the Witcher games have been a success. They are a new story of Witcher Geralt, in which his character is put to the test in ways that have not already been written down. I want nothing less for Ciri, and I am convinced the Red team's writers, artists, and players would be able to deliver.
 
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StaGiors

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#42
Jul 23, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I would love a game with Ciri as the protagonist. If they promise us one, they can have my preorder now. But I want it to be a new story, not one contained within the books.

That is a reason the Witcher games have been a success. They are a new story of Witcher Geralt, in which his character is put to the test in ways that have not already been written down. I want nothing less for Ciri, and I am convinced the Red team's writers, artists, and players would be able to deliver.
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Yeah I also believe that they should make a completely new story, if they try out Ciri.

It's going to be much easier to do as well. Ciri can travel to different worlds/different times. There's not so much "restriction" from the will to stay as much true to canon as possible. They can simply dodge the events from the books. If not traveling to different worlds (which will take away the beautiful Witcher World from the players) then she could travel in time. I wouldn't mind a complete different World though. Ciri I think, is not meant to fight the terrible monsters Geralt has been fighting. She is not that "witcherly".

First in line of the preorders is obviously @EmperorZorn and since you are second, I will be third. Called it!

One thing's for sure though. We won't be getting that anytime soon. :)
 
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arkblazer

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#43
Jul 23, 2014
username_2 said:
While I feel this topic have somewhat lived out it's usefulness here, only Rodrigo92 actually addressed something important so here goes.

A couple of reasons why Ciri shouldn't be decided by the community.



1. It creates more loose ends to the story revolving Geralt of Rivia. Seeing as the whole third game will probably be about Geralt and his search for Yennefer and Ciri, making a new game about a important person to Geralt's life and arguable the whole reason why we've played The Witcher 3 is just bad, as it opens up questions. Why did Ciri leave Geralt and Yennefer? Why aren't they coming with you etc. Even if this would be explained in The Witcher 3 it stills will remind people playing, about Geralt and Yennefer and that's a story that CD RED will tie up in The Witcher 3.

2. It's unnecessarily much catering to fans. CD RED have shown us time and again that they can make great games to us and by listening to our feedback, but to let us decide the main character is just undermining what CD RED have done for us so far and really portrait the fan base in a bad way (making requests) rather than being appreciative to CD RED for all they've done so far.

3. It's a matter of entitlement. We as the community don't hold any entitlement to make this sort of demands. What this would mean is that it would force CD RED to make a story about Ciri, something not necessary what they originally wanted to do. They should be free to decide how they want to make a new game and which story it should be about and why and not us as potential customer in the future.

4. It would create a cluster fuck of ideas flying all over the place. If we are allowed to make such a major decision (and yes this is a major decision) about a forthcoming game we will delude ourselves that why shouldn't we also get this, and that etc. Ideas would fly all over the place and nothing short but complete trash would reach the shelves once the game would potentially be released.

This is not whether Ciri would fit as a lead character, this is about the community's role here and what we have the right to press our voice about and what we haven't... And deciding who the next game should be about is a massive choice that really undermines what CD RED is. CD RED is a developer with love for gaming and making things their own way (why else would they so proudly and happily now express them as being self funded) and neither we or publishers or anyone else should have the right to change this. After all it's their product and they can do whatever they want, the only thing that matters for us if we enjoy the game or not and if it's functional to the extent of what we were promised beforehand.
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User, no one is demanding CDP that Ciri be the next protagonist. We are just stating the qualities that would make her a good protag and if it would be fun to play as her in gameplay.
 
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Scryar

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#44
Jul 23, 2014
They could set her story during the events at the end of the books and her appearence in Witcher 3. I think Ciri would be the logical protagonist in the next witcher. Gameplaywise she is a great swordfigher and a sorceress. So the most popular classes in rpgs (warrior, mage) would be covered. Storywise, the developers would have any freedom with her special abilitys.
 
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EmperorZorn

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#45
Jul 23, 2014
scryar said:
They could set her story during the events at the end of the books and her appearence in Witcher 3. I think Ciri would be the logical protagonist in the next witcher. Gameplaywise she is a great swordfigher and a sorceress. So the most popular classes in rpgs (warrior, mage) would be covered. Storywise, the developers would have any freedom with her special abilitys.
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It's also interesting in terms of game mechanics.

I've said it before, but Ciri could open rifts in time in certain, magic affine places and travel back and forth in time.
This way you could have consequences that span across time.

For example:

You arrive at the ruins of a burned out village.
Ciri can use a rift to travel into the past, find the cause for the fire and prevent it.

When you travel back into the present, the village and it's villagers will now exist in that time.

But that could have another consequence: let's say the villagers formed an angry mob and blamed the
setting of the fire on non-humans living in a small encampment at the edge of the forest.
Now all of them have been slain and hanged and won't be able to help you on another quest~

The possibilities are endless...
 
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shinobi2u

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#46
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
You arrive at the ruins of a burned out village.
Ciri can use a rift to travel into the past, find the cause for the fire and prevent it.

The possibilities are endless...
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Ciri: "My medallion is vibrating...."

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That is an interesting idea though and could make for some unique game mechanics.
 

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EmperorZorn

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#47
Jul 23, 2014
@shinobi2u

Ciri: "I think we've got a case to solve !"
Geralt: "Do we even have time for th-"
Ciri: "Time is not an issue !" *winks and opens a dimensional rift*
Geralt: "But... but.... Ciri, wait !"

*theme song plays*

Detective Ciri, on a wild hunt for clues !
Detective Ciri, danger 's on the loose !

You gotta solve this case - there's too much at stake,
No one can hide the truth when your medallion starts to shake~

Oooooooohohoh~ ...C ! ...S ! ...I !


*title flashes*

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No. Let's not go there.
It's better for everyone involved...
 
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shinobi2u

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#48
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
@shinobi2u
No. Let's not go there.
It's better for everyone involved...
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Why not?!?! This sounds amazing! I could totally see an animated parody show based around this, going into different worlds (many of them other video games). Now you make me want to do a mockup poster for it. Damn you and your inspiring ideas! :p

Zorn, you crack me up. Too bad you live on the other side of the world, I would so hang out with you.

Ahem, back to topic. I'd love to see this happen, though I'd like Cyberpunk 2077 to be done first. This would allow them to come up with some great ideas, maybe take some things from Cyberpunk to make it stand out more so from Geralt's journeys.
 
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Foxtrot1994

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#49
Jul 23, 2014
Mmmm I see Ciri better fit in some sort of expansion than in a full game. I mean, it's just me of course, but I don't find her as interesting as fans like to describe her. As a new main PC, in my opinion it would be better to have a character not particularly deeply described in the books or in the games, so that we can get to know him/her more thoroughly, and experience a new "point of view" about the Witcher world. Of course this character has to have something to do with fighting, since combat is an important aspect of an RPG. At this moment, I'm thinking of one of the Kaer Morhen's witchers, or maybe from another school, maybe only mentioned or seen briefly in the books or the previous games.
 
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TheDespondentMind2

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#50
Jul 23, 2014
I would love a game with Ciri, post w3 events if possible. But she would have to be nerferd, the time travel powers I mean, CDPR would have to find a way to nerf her without raping lore .
 
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AutumnalWanderer

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#51
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
I still think Ciri might be one of the better choices to carry on
Geralt's legacy IF we really have to say goodbye to him.

She basically took a step on Geralts path, becoming more and more similar to him with every loss and struggle.
That alone makes me wonder through how much misery Geralt must have gone and
through how much more Ciri must go to have experienced the same as him.

I know that Ciri hasn't been subjected to the trials, but to me she is a witcher.
The moment when she took the medallion from the corpse of her worst nemesis I felt like
she earned her witcher status, graduated as a witcher trainee.
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So she have a witcher medallion? Give me my Baptism of Fire already. If the hungarian translater and publisher continue the same way as they did it previously it will took years to finish the saga. At least I hope that the Baptism of Fire will come this year.

Back to the topic, as far as I know Ciri didn't needed to be mutated because she is specal, right? I am probably wrong but I remember that way. She could be good protagonist, I like her and that would be an interesting change, I am not saying that I won't miss Geralt though. For me, the waiting for the W3 is constant pain, so first I want that, like now. :D
 
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EmperorZorn

Moderator
#52
Jul 23, 2014
Yes, Ciri has a witcher medallion of the cat school~


I made this fanart of it, it's how I imagined it when reading the books:



Autumnal Wanderer said:
Back to the topic, as far as I know Ciri didn't needed to be mutated because she is specal, right?
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Well, to be completely accurate Triss didn't let Geralt mutate her.

The Witcher mutations have a high mortality rate (only a few survive them) and she didn't want to risk Ciri's life.
Triss was also upset that the Witchers fed Ciri mushrooms (to change her metabolism) and ignored her female "issues",
so she took Ciri under her wing and let her continue the Witcher training without going through mutations.

After a long period of training in Kaer Morhen they discovered that Ciri was a source.
That means she has incredible magical potential and prophetic abilities.

So you could say she turned out to be special, yes.
 
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AutumnalWanderer

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#53
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
Yes, Ciri has a witcher medallion of the cat school~


I made this fanart of it, it's how I imagined it when reading the books:





Well, to be completely accurate Triss didn't let Geralt mutate her.

The Witcher mutations have a high mortality rate (only a few survive them) and she didn't want to risk Ciri's life.
Triss was also upset that the Witchers fed Ciri mushrooms (to change her metabolism) and ignored her female "issues",
so she took Ciri under her wing and let her continue the Witcher training without going through mutations.

After a long period of training in Kaer Morhen they discovered that Ciri was a source.
That means she has incredible magical potential and prophetic abilities.
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Oh, thank, now I rememeber :). Still I count her as a witcher because that would be her destiny even if she not mutated.
 
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shinobi2u

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#54
Jul 23, 2014
Autumnal Wanderer said:
So she have a witcher medallion? Give me my Baptism of Fire already. If the hungarian translater and publisher continue the same way as they did it previously it will took years to finish the saga. At least I hope that the Baptism of Fire will come this year.

Back to the topic, as far as I know Ciri didn't needed to be mutated because she is specal, right? I am probably wrong but I remember that way. She could be good protagonist, I like her and that would be an interesting change, I am not saying that I won't miss Geralt though. For me, the waiting for the W3 is constant pain, so first I want that, like now. :D
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From what details I gathered from the SoD trailer, she wasn't wearing one (at least not out in the open).

They started to mutate her (using mushrooms), but then she had her episodes due to her magical abilities/elder blood and Triss found out and got mad at them for what they were doing and made them stop.

EDIT: Zorn of course beat me to the explanation. He must have gotten more coffee.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#55
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
Yes, Ciri has a witcher medallion of the cat school~


I made this fanart of it, it's how I imagined it when reading the books:





Well, to be completely accurate Triss didn't let Geralt mutate her.

The Witcher mutations have a high mortality rate (only a few survive them) and she didn't want to risk Ciri's life.
Triss was also upset that the Witchers fed Ciri mushrooms (to change her metabolism) and ignored her female "issues",
so she took Ciri under her wing and let her continue the Witcher training without going through mutations.
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...which got Ciri upset because she couldn't have her favorite mushrooms and cider anymore.

After a long period of training in Kaer Morhen they discovered that Ciri was a source.
That means she has incredible magical potential and prophetic abilities.

So you could say she turned out to be special, yes.
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didymos1120

Rookie
#56
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
Well, to be completely accurate Triss didn't let Geralt mutate her.
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To be even more accurate, Geralt couldn't have even had he wanted to. No one knew how to do that anymore, and it required a sorcerer.
 
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Percival_Dickenbutts

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#57
Jul 23, 2014
If memory serves, in The Sword Of Destiny, Geralt explained to Calanthe that a true child marked by destiny (which is what Ciri is) wouldn't NEED to be mutated.
Also Ciri already has combat prowess and reflexes that are at Witcher level, she parried a crossbow bolt at castle Stygga, not to mention that she defeated Leo Bonhart, who had already killed two witchers in the past.

In regards to her being OP because of her elder blood, I don't think it would be a problem, the way I understood it from the books, was that her control over her abilities is very limited and she only really got where she wanted to go when Nimue helped her, and then again when Ihuarraquax helped her right at the end of Lady Of The Lake. Well....once on her own when fighting Bonhart, but she only used it ONCE during that fight, and only to get away from him, it's not like she was teleporting all over the place like Nightcrawler from X-Men or something.

I kind of have a theory that Ciri has been on the run from The Wild Hunt for quite some time at the start of TW3, maybe even years, but she only made it to the right world at the right time with the help of someone else, most likely Ihuarraquax.
 
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AutumnalWanderer

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#58
Jul 23, 2014
Percival_Dickenbutts said:
If memory serves, in The Sword Of Destiny, Geralt explained to Calanthe that a true child marked by destiny (which is what Ciri is) wouldn't NEED to be mutated.
Also Ciri already has combat prowess and reflexes that are at Witcher level, she parried a crossbow bolt at castle Stygga, not to mention that she defeated Leo Bonhart, who had already killed two witchers in the past.
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That was the thing why I write what I write, just didn't remembered when and how described it. Leo Bonhart is mentioned in the TW1 am I right?
 
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EmperorZorn

Moderator
#59
Jul 23, 2014
Autumnal Wanderer said:
That was the thing why I write what I write, just didn't remembered when and how described it. Leo Bonhart is mentioned in the TW1 am I right?
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Yes, briefly. TW1 has the entire story of Ciri summed up too.

 
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AutumnalWanderer

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#60
Jul 23, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
Yes, briefly. TW1 has the entire story of Ciri summed up too.

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I remember this as well.

Anyway there is a wallpaper about Ciri and a tower in a picture. Is it could be that tower where a portal on the top of that tower? This was a school of magic I belive and she jumped in it and she find herself in the desert.
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