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There is "ü" on that screenshot
But why do have it on your keyboard? ^^
Not on keyboard, just copy-paste from some german text I have on my pc
Not on keyboard, just copy-paste from some german text I have on my pc
OK, now it makes sense. Was just wondering.
Ciri's sword has interesting stats.
That feels more like it. On my playthrough the sword was lvl 1 with small damage, maybe a bug...
On the topic of Ciri and Mistle, am I the only one who thinks Ciri was in that relationship willingly? After all the men trying to rape and abuse her, is it not possible she started playing on both teams? Even in Witcher 3, she has an option to say she prefers women.
This.
Also, they care of each other at last, you can see it before Ciri's departure from the Rats.
But she didn't have much of a choice as far as i remember. It was either being raped by a man or "comforted" by another girl. Ciri choose neither at the beginning, Mistle did that for her. Later it changes as @Willowhugger said, but those rats were living in their own world until Bonhart ripped it apart, literally.
If she is bisexual, well, why not, but i just find it irritating that this affection started from that.
I honestly don't see her as consenting any more with Mistle than the bandit's leader. The thing is, of course, Ciri wanted some place to feel safe and loved so she came to love the Rats.
It's a tragic horrible situation all round.
Since really, I don't think we're supposed to be happy Ciri has become a murder-happy bandit.
I don't think there's any doubt Ciri is bisexual, though.
Certainly not game Ciri.
It's a tragic horrible situation all round.
Since really, I don't think we're supposed to be happy Ciri has become a murder-happy bandit.
I don't think there's any doubt Ciri is bisexual, though.
Certainly not game Ciri.
I can see your point of view, I guess I just try to see the good side in every character.
Rats were a band of teenage orphans, outcasts from society which treated them extremely harshly. I imagine most of them were abused horribly before they banded up together.
Whereas the Rats leader certainly did try to rape Ciri, I believe Mistle protected her, in her own way. From my memory, Mistle saw herself in Ciri, who was also once scared and alone. Also, I think it was written that Ciri quite clearly shied away from the guy, whereas she let herself go with Mistle, so it's open to interpretation whether it's consent or not.
I mean in today's world, that would not sit well, but considering the situation Rats were in, and their (Mistle's) point of view and way of life, that was kindness from her end, such as it may be.
And quite clearly, later on, Ciri is attached to Mistle, obviously cares for her enough for Bonhart to smell that and kill Mistle in a particularly nasty way in front of Ciri.
Again, if my memory is correct, I think she asks Geralt later on to go with her and bury the Rats, can't remember if she mentioned Mistle to Geralt though, but the scene with burring Skjall is very reminiscing of this moment.
Anyway, that's just how I interpreted it, as good intentions and sincere affection with a flawed initiation.
Edit: On the other hand, what happened to her in the Ann Elle's captivity is quite clearly rape and Stockholm's syndrome, with the elven King. There was no affection nor love for Ciri.
Rats were a band of teenage orphans, outcasts from society which treated them extremely harshly. I imagine most of them were abused horribly before they banded up together.
Whereas the Rats leader certainly did try to rape Ciri, I believe Mistle protected her, in her own way. From my memory, Mistle saw herself in Ciri, who was also once scared and alone. Also, I think it was written that Ciri quite clearly shied away from the guy, whereas she let herself go with Mistle, so it's open to interpretation whether it's consent or not.
I mean in today's world, that would not sit well, but considering the situation Rats were in, and their (Mistle's) point of view and way of life, that was kindness from her end, such as it may be.
And quite clearly, later on, Ciri is attached to Mistle, obviously cares for her enough for Bonhart to smell that and kill Mistle in a particularly nasty way in front of Ciri.
Again, if my memory is correct, I think she asks Geralt later on to go with her and bury the Rats, can't remember if she mentioned Mistle to Geralt though, but the scene with burring Skjall is very reminiscing of this moment.
Anyway, that's just how I interpreted it, as good intentions and sincere affection with a flawed initiation.
Edit: On the other hand, what happened to her in the Ann Elle's captivity is quite clearly rape and Stockholm's syndrome, with the elven King. There was no affection nor love for Ciri.
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You have a Ves avatar and you can't abide by the belly shirt?
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Anyway, I haven't met Ciri in the books, but I've heard a couple people say they don't like Ciri in game, is there an agreed upon reason?
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Ciri is awesome in the game.
Albeit, she's a lot more heroic and self-sacrificing in the game.
Game Ciri: "I cannot let other people suffer so I might live! I must defeat the White Frost and save the world!"
Book Ciri: "I hope you all die, choking on your own filth."
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My interpretation is Ciri reacted identically to them. Neither Kayleigh NOR Mistle thought they were assaulting Ciri and believed she was a willing participant.
They were both wrong.
Ciri shuddered beneath the touch of the dry, hard, rough hand. She lay motionless, stiff and tense, full of an overpowering fear which took her will away, and an overwhelming sense of revulsion, which assailed her temples and cheeks with waves of heat. Kayleigh slipped his left arm beneath her head, pulled her closer to him, trying to dislodge the hand which was tightly gripping the lap of her shirt and vainly trying to pull it downwards. Ciri began to shake. She sensed a sudden commotion in the surrounding darkness, felt a shaking, and heard the sound of a kick.
‘Mistle, are you insane?’ snarled Kayleigh, lifting himself up a little.
‘Leave her alone, you swine.’
‘Get lost. Go to bed.’
‘Leave her alone, I said.’ ‘Am I bothering her, or something? Is she screaming or struggling? I just want to cuddle her to sleep. Don’t interfere.’
‘Get out of here or I’ll cut you.’ Ciri heard the grinding of a knife in a metal sheath.
‘I’m serious,’ repeated Mistle, looming indistinctly in the dark above them. ‘Get lost and join the boys. Right now.’
Kayleigh sat up and swore under his breath. He stood up without a word and walked quickly away. Ciri felt the tears running down her cheeks, quickly, quicker and quicker, creeping like wriggling worms among the hair by her ears. Mistle lay down beside her, and covered her tenderly with the fur. But she didn’t pull the dishevelled shirt down. She left it as it had been. Ciri began to shake again.
‘Be still, Falka. It’s all right now.’ Mistle was warm, and smelled of resin and smoke. Her hand was smaller than Kayleigh’s; more delicate, softer. More pleasant. But its touch stiffened Ciri once more, once more gripped her entire body with fear and revulsion, clenched her jaw and constricted her throat. Mistle lay close to her, cradling her protectively and whispering soothingly, but at the same time, her small hand relentlessly crept like a warm, little snail, calmly, confidently, decisively.
Certain of its way and its destination. Ciri felt the iron pincers of revulsion and fear relaxing, releasing their hold; she felt herself slipping from their grip and sinking downwards, downwards, deep, deeper and deeper, into a warm and wet well of resignation and helpless submissiveness. A disgusting and humiliatingly pleasant submissiveness.
‘Mistle, are you insane?’ snarled Kayleigh, lifting himself up a little.
‘Leave her alone, you swine.’
‘Get lost. Go to bed.’
‘Leave her alone, I said.’ ‘Am I bothering her, or something? Is she screaming or struggling? I just want to cuddle her to sleep. Don’t interfere.’
‘Get out of here or I’ll cut you.’ Ciri heard the grinding of a knife in a metal sheath.
‘I’m serious,’ repeated Mistle, looming indistinctly in the dark above them. ‘Get lost and join the boys. Right now.’
Kayleigh sat up and swore under his breath. He stood up without a word and walked quickly away. Ciri felt the tears running down her cheeks, quickly, quicker and quicker, creeping like wriggling worms among the hair by her ears. Mistle lay down beside her, and covered her tenderly with the fur. But she didn’t pull the dishevelled shirt down. She left it as it had been. Ciri began to shake again.
‘Be still, Falka. It’s all right now.’ Mistle was warm, and smelled of resin and smoke. Her hand was smaller than Kayleigh’s; more delicate, softer. More pleasant. But its touch stiffened Ciri once more, once more gripped her entire body with fear and revulsion, clenched her jaw and constricted her throat. Mistle lay close to her, cradling her protectively and whispering soothingly, but at the same time, her small hand relentlessly crept like a warm, little snail, calmly, confidently, decisively.
Certain of its way and its destination. Ciri felt the iron pincers of revulsion and fear relaxing, releasing their hold; she felt herself slipping from their grip and sinking downwards, downwards, deep, deeper and deeper, into a warm and wet well of resignation and helpless submissiveness. A disgusting and humiliatingly pleasant submissiveness.
There's not much ambiguity. It's not a topic I'm comfortable with, though, and I hope we can move on.
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For the love of Ciri, CDPR please make another Witcher game that is solely dedictated to Ciri's past up to the present please please
please please Giselher was the leader of rats, Kayleigh was the person who wanted to "give her something nice" in return for his rescue.
EDIT. Ciri found something special in those people, who where bandits for everyone, specialy for Nilfgaard. Not for Ciri, for her they were friends. Because of rats, Ciri wasnt alone anymore. Same thing happend to Geralt actualy, when he greated his own team. Both Ciri and Geralt needed company on their journey, someone who you can rely on. Sadly, both teams ended up the same.
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It's hard to fully explain it, just the same as it's hard to explain why is Sapkowski's writing so damn good. Willowhugger gave you the short of it and I agree.
In-game Ciri does not faithfully carry over book Ciri's experiences and character traits. Book Ciri is much more fierce, confident and sharp whereas game Ciri feels a bit bland, insecure and altruistic in comparison.
You only need to read The Last Wish, which introduces beautifully both Calanthe, the queen of Cintra, Ciri's grandmother and basically the source of her early childhood character, and Yennefer, her adoptive mother and the source of her later character development.
Book Ciri is basically the mix of those two women + Geralt's influence, so at times, you should be able to see why game Ciri doesn't quite fill the shoes. All that being said, I still think CDPR did a fantastic job. If they decide to touch up game Ciri, it would be perfection, but I don't think they've failed nor do I dislike game Ciri.
Thank you for putting in words what I could not. I was equally sad when both of those groups died. I saw them all as true friends and companions worthy of respect.
On a more specific level, the Witcher 3 kind of goes against a major theme of Sapkowski's writings which is, "Screw your standard fantasy epic Chosen One story". A lot of people think Ciri is an OP with a ridiculous story of Empress heir, Northern heir, Source, Sorceress, Witcheress, and so on.
The thing is, all these ridiculous titles are things she adamantly rejects. There's a scene in Baptism of Fire where Milva says that Geralt rescuing Ciri from Emhyr (not knowing she's with the Rats) is ludicrous because why would she want to be rescued from a life of power, privilege, and wealth.
And Geralt doesn't bother to explain because the reader knows how ****ing STUPID the statement she just gave is.
Ciri doesn't want a Crown, she doesn't want to be the Chosen One, she doesn't want to be the Savior, or the Savior's Mother, and she's NOT going to compromise on this. The various prophecies about her, even though they're ostensibly for her own benefit, result in nothing but attempts at sexual assault, beatings, and the murder of her friends.
The ending of the Witcher books, which the game spoils, is Ciri LEAVES the world of the Witcher. The White Frost isn't coming for 3000 years so there's no point in being the Chosen One. She abandons Nilfgaard, the Aen Elle, and the North to its fate....and good ****ing riddance.
If I could summarize Ciri's relationship to her Chosen Status, it's giving two middle fingers to Fate.
Needless to say, this makes some element DISSONANCE with the Witcher 3 where she's like, "Must I go to the Emperor to help as many people as possible?"
Book Ciri's reaction to the Emperor's offer or the possibility of helping others through personal sacrifice.
The thing is, all these ridiculous titles are things she adamantly rejects. There's a scene in Baptism of Fire where Milva says that Geralt rescuing Ciri from Emhyr (not knowing she's with the Rats) is ludicrous because why would she want to be rescued from a life of power, privilege, and wealth.
And Geralt doesn't bother to explain because the reader knows how ****ing STUPID the statement she just gave is.
Ciri doesn't want a Crown, she doesn't want to be the Chosen One, she doesn't want to be the Savior, or the Savior's Mother, and she's NOT going to compromise on this. The various prophecies about her, even though they're ostensibly for her own benefit, result in nothing but attempts at sexual assault, beatings, and the murder of her friends.
The ending of the Witcher books, which the game spoils, is Ciri LEAVES the world of the Witcher. The White Frost isn't coming for 3000 years so there's no point in being the Chosen One. She abandons Nilfgaard, the Aen Elle, and the North to its fate....and good ****ing riddance.
If I could summarize Ciri's relationship to her Chosen Status, it's giving two middle fingers to Fate.
Needless to say, this makes some element DISSONANCE with the Witcher 3 where she's like, "Must I go to the Emperor to help as many people as possible?"
Book Ciri's reaction to the Emperor's offer or the possibility of helping others through personal sacrifice.
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CD Project Red made her even better in the game in my opinion. Ciri is now a grown, strong woman. She is showing at last emotions to people that she cares the most, specialy towards Geralt. I liked that really much. Is such a shame that we have so little interaction between Yennefer and Ciri in the game. There is only Avalach lab quest at the end of the game where Yen and Ciri are together and are actually speaking to each other. Besides that we have reunion at Kaer Morhen and thats it. Missed opportunity. Still, love how CDPR portraited Ciri in the game. They took old Ciri from the end of the books and made little, subtle changes to her because of growing age. I liked that.
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