Colonel Hansen is a potential hope of Night City and the real victim of Phantom Liberty (personal point of view)

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Again, I'd like to remind especially to those who like to play as Corpo V : V is a native of Westbrook, Charter Hill, born in Night City, which is a city-state, independent of the NUSA. Independent.

Though V Nomad and V Street Kid also love Night City, there's a particularly poignant confession from Corpo-V, who tells Takemura at the construction site how he loved to lie on the roof at night and look out at the neon fog of Charter Hill.

Dialoguing with a netrunner of the NUSA government let alone cooperating with Myers and Reed is a TREASON of Night-City ipso facto, not to mention further operations in conjunction with FIA agents and Mr. Hands, the Gray Cardinal of the NUSA.

Here, I don't understand why we don't have the option from the beginning of the campaign to just politely tell So Mi :
"Sorry, I don't take anything from the hands of the enemy".

Myers is not liked in Night City.

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Myers dropped bombs on the city, used violence against the residents (hardly any different from her predecessor Elizabeth Kress )

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Myers is the enemy of a free Night City. Everything Myers does is violence and power grabbing, it's tyranny.
Even her own people are talking about it.
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Myers is an economic criminal. Billions of Eurodollars have been buried deep under the carpet of Night City, in pursuit of satisfying the president's vain ego, instead of using the money for research into curing people of cyberpsychosis, building sports academies for children, and improving housing.
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No. Even the main investor in Night City, the Arasaka Corporation, has been banned from conducting financial transactions in the NUSA.
In fact, the proud residents of Night City survived against the will of the NUSA, despite attempts by the empire to take away their freedom, strangle them or simply bomb them.

V knows this. He must remember it. Never forget.

I don't understand why, with all that said, in Phantom Liberty V is obligated to choose the side of a clear enemy of Night City.
Why is the choice between Myers and Hansen being made in favor of Myers and FIA?!
 

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I don't want to see the rest of Night City as "picturesque" as Dogtown came out of Myers' hands. And I'm sure V doesn't either. The legacy of the hostilities unleashed by the NUSA in Pacifica, like the legacy of Kress and Myers' "economic reforms" is something that is hard to digest:

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I love Night City. V loves Night City. And President Myers is an enemy of Night City.
Songbird is working against Night City...Solomon Reed is working against Night City...Mr. Hands is a spider who has woven his web in Night City.
These men are the enemies of the free city.

I don't understand why the entire ending of Phantom Liberty V is obligated to play games with the enemies of his hometown. Phantom Liberty? There's no choice at all.
Under the given circumstances, in order to prevent the Arvin Accord from being canceled, V has only two options:

1. Consolidate with Arasaka.
2. Enter into an alliance with Colonel Hansen.

The first option is already your favorite, I know...I guess I'll have to settle for the second?
Because if not, if you play straight by the plot of the add-on - then V, trying to survive, by all means brings the end of his beloved Night City closer in the iron embrace of Militech, FIA and Rosalind Myers :(

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Hansen is obviously more forward-thinking than V...and than we are. He knows exactly what he's talking about (y)
 
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Two intermediate observations about Barghest and a few other things:

1. Under what conditions Hansen's organization is forced to function - the activities of the "free press in Night City".

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2. Bargest's terminology for corpo-tyranny seems much more spectacular than the same from Johnny. (y) In particular, this is why I'd like Hansen's take on politicians in Washington in general and FIA agents (Reed, So Mi, Alex, Hands). Since we've listened to a lot of Hansen's assessments from the FIA guys and Myers, and even from Silverhand, but haven't heard backlash.
The Colonel certainly has a lot to say, he and Militech undoubtedly have many shared memories.
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I would agree that a guy from "Barghest" who wrote this text upload his consciousness to the chip in my head instead of Johnny Silverhand's. :D Damn it, I would go to that procedure voluntarily!!!
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Hansen, it seems to me, is the only person in the entire CP universe who not only criticizes his opponents, but does something in response himself. That is, his social criticism and advocacy is somehow based on taking responsibility for people.
And although his world is strangely reminiscent of a training camp/military base ( I wonder why) :LOL:, it is gradually improving.

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I just can't think of examples of this kind of behavior in CP, except maybe Regina Jones, with her attempt to treat cyber-psychics? IDK.
 

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A few simple "notes in the margins" for further study:
1. Hansen retains a certain sentimentality. Even if his words that the ideals of the NUSA mean nothing to him anymore are fair, you can still see the NUSA flag on the wall of the Black Sapphire...well, or the soldiers just forgot to take it down )

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2. Midnight Storm's operation in Pacifica was interrupted by supercarrier Arasaka, it was during that period of time that the NUSA and Militech were obviously closest to achieving their political goals of capturing a bridgehead on the territory of Night City for the purpose of a subsequent strike on the territory of an independent city. It took Arasaka's direct intervention to prevent this.

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Interestingly, a few years later, during the Phantom Liberty period, we again see the Arasaka Supercarrier in Night City harbor: some believe its mission is to guard some high-ranking members of the Arasaka family during the Japan Town parade. But this seems too strange for a mere coincidence. Another possible interpretation is that Arasaka is monitoring the FIA's activities in Pacifica, and is preparing to launch a preemptive strike if things go awry.

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This means that the US and Myers have limited options - they no longer have people like Hansen, direct military intervention is ruled out, and there will be no landing. So, there are only indirect, indirect methods of influence - espionage, sabotage, gathering information about Hansen, recruitment of double agents.
There's only one specialist in indirect methods of influence in the FIA.
And we know his name perfectly well.

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As for V - If V wasn't available to the FIA, he would have to be invented...A poor dying mercenary running into a trap, like a hunted beast that has been encircled by hunters and driven to a prepared position...

3. This whole situation means that the NUSA are out of tempo, running out of time - Barghest is growing in numbers,

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Hansen's militia ideology finds support in the hearts of the people of Pacifica. The hatred of Rosalind Myers and the desire to live a free life, beyond the control of street gangs, the NCPD or corpos, makes people take up arms and begin military training.The recruitment of soldiers continues, and soon Hansen will become a real force in Night City, his control of Pacifica will become unchallenged, and it will be impossible to eliminate him.
Also, Barghest and Arasaka begin to look out for each other, gradually moving into joint operations:

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A timid, cautious study, nothing more, but it paves the way for further cooperation. Night City prepares to become invulnerable to the NUSA military empire, once and for all like the rest of Northern California.
If they want to attack Hansen, them need to do it now, immediately - there may not be another opportunity.
That's why I don't believe in the coincidence of So Mi's illness and the fact that she was aboard the presidential shuttle next to Myers on that fateful day. I don't believe in the coincidence of the Arasaka's inner mutiny timings with the timings of Phantom Liberty either.
Coincidence is the result of patterns that we are not aware of.
To assume that multiple events happened randomly and independently of each other is to show intellectual irresponsibility here.
 

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Of course, by the time of Phantom Liberty's action, the situation on earth is far from the notions of paradise, but nevertheless, Hansen's activities bring results. And consequences, in the form of the Colonel's "old friends" arrival.

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True. Go on please.

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Right.

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In other words, Hansen's "betrayal" was that he :
1. Refused to be a pawn in the hands of the corpo-imperialists.
2. Did not abandon his wounded soldiers to their fate.
3. Did not flee the battlefield with his honor of a soldier intact.
4. Refused to die.

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A monstrous crime, of course.
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*After some amount of intellectual operations performed, the most neutral definition, not hurting anyone's feelings, not offending anyone, that I can give Mr. Hands is "Political Fixer".
Since no one is ready to recognize him as the FIA's CEO or one of the Militech bosses, henceforth he will be defined as a Political Fixer.
That is, a middleman who understands his business a bit more broadly than most conventional businessmen do ))
 
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A political fixer... Uh-huh.

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Right, special agent Reed.
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And right again.

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And the obstacle to the "Great Reunion" is Colonel Hansen. (y)
Speaking of "other means":

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That's right, fixer, except “collective threat” is also a two-pronged stick. Even the correct definitions can be attached to those who created them.
And yes, speaking of others as criminals and threats, I wouldn't make threats myself if I were you. Some mercenaries have a certain moral code, oddly enough. And patriotism - a simple love for their hometown.

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A veiled threat is still a threat. Another little mistake, Hands-- arrogance.

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A carefully concealed, elaborated, but still obvious to the careful eye contempt for the plebs, for the dirty mercenaries of the street, the contempt of a privileged, educated and well-informed member of the elite. Of course, Hands is a simple fixer ( :D ), but it is little behavioral markers like these that reveal his social background..

My V is attentive, and doesn't miss such details.
That's why among other things Colonel Hansen has a place in his story. Not sure about you, Hands and your favourite Myers.
 
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And the final brushstroke here.
And we're done with Hands. (y)

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Decent honest fixers always do this. It's not unusual.

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Sure. First Pacifica and then Night City, for example.

P.S. I would very much like to know what Colonel Hansen thinks of Hands. I have a strong feeling they met in person once..

But enough about Hands, Myers, and the NUSA!
From now on, just Hansen.

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So let's summarize what we have:
We have a pan-American continent torn by brutal wars that erupt with enviable regularity. Blackwall, demons, the invasion of savage AI into the human world, cyberpsychosis and street crime are all understandable and wonderful, but we should distinguish between local, global and existential threats.
As a playground we have Night City, a city located in a precarious position on the border of Southern and Northern California. It is separated by a concrete wall from the militaristic NUSA, led by a tough, conniving and power-hungry female president, Rosalind Myers. Myers' armament includes the huge military-industrial corporation Militech with invaluable potential and also the most terrifying and powerful intelligence service on the planet, the FIA.
Of course, I can't know the ideas of the CDPR, nor can I interpret the final message of the game (if there is one at all), but the bottom line might be: beware of the FIA, it is omnipresent and relentless, you can't escape from it, you can't cheat it, it will use you in any case, beware of even the situation when the agency seems to be "on your side" - in fact, it is always only on its side.
Well, great. If all of the above is even partially true, Night City is over in the medium term, as Rosalind Myers is in absolutely no mood to play liberalism and is full of hopes to unite all independent city-states and free states under her ironclad rule. That she spares neither men nor means, and is unscrupulous in her methods of accomplishing her end, was, I think, amply demonstrated in Phantom Liberty. If so, the game's messege is "Enjoy freedom while you have it". Is that what was needed to be proven? That's it?

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Well, freedom will be taken away later anyway, or it will die on its own under carpet bombing. Night City awaits war, chaos, mass deaths, recycling in Militech bunkers, labor camps, and much more.
Cyberpunk, dystopia, dark future and lack of hope - it's good of course, it's quite obvious, but I think in the "FIA and NUSA win" scenario Night City itself just doesn't exist. There just isn't any future at all - who wants to play in a concentration camp? )
Okay. The next achievement of Phantom Liberty that I personally find very significant is the idea of self-sacrifice. Where it came from in a game about a dystopian future - I don't know. But it's there. For the first time, for the first time at all, and it's unprecedented, V is asked to sacrifice his own life to save another human being, and by and large, V does. I won't hide, on my first playthrough of Phantom Liberty, I saved Songbird and sent her to the moon. The consequences of that decision are not obvious to me to this day, but I generally have no regrets. Quite an interesting thing: so we can sacrifice ourselves in Cyberpunk from now on? )) That's an absolute novelty.
Well, then I guess we could probably be given a little more choice as to how and to whom we should sacrifice...er... "our bodily and mental health", no? Or was this an exceptional case, and from now on we are obliged to be rational, selfish, and act only for our own good?

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The famous scene in Black Sapphire: Three characters in front of V. But only two scenarios?!

1. Hansen is dead, Reed is dead, So Mi is saved.
2- Hansen is dead, So Mi is dead or worse than dead, Reed wins.
3- Am I the only one who thinks there's a third option missing here? ))

The point is that in the proposed framework, the FIA wins either way, wins in such a way that Hands also makes V do all the dirty work for him, and then V gets "ditched" anyway, no matter what or who he sacrifices - himself, So Mi, Reed, Silverhand, his future.
So the FIA is the strongest. Okay, we get that.
But V is doomed, he's not going to get out of this world alive anyway, right?
So at least give V the opportunity to fully choose who and how to give his life for )))
In all seriousness, Hansen is the most deserving candidate for this.

He and V have one major thing in common - they're both victims. And what's more, if I understand the FIA's intentions correctly, they're also Target.
They're both being hunted. They are both ruthlessly involved in someone else's plans. And they both have the power to fight fate, while So Mi runs and lies, and Reed also lies, but is adrift due to his cowardice.
The Colonel, on the other hand, never runs from a fight, always turns to face mortal danger. So does V.
The second common trait is courage in the face of imminent doom.
Just as Hansen cares about his men, V cares about the people he cares about, he shows this repeatedly throughout the game. So much for another common quality.
What other common qualities need to be cited?
A capacity for compassion? An inner morality? The ability to make tough decisions in difficult situations? The ability to resist outside influences, no matter how strong? Peoples' trust?

When V looks at Hansen, he's looking in the mirror - that's what's most tragic about Phantom Liberty.

If only by virtue of this alone, the Colonel deserves compassion.
The situation in which Hansen remains alive requires, in my opinion, an alternative ending. Even if V is destined to die, he can and should do so honorably - if only out of love for his city, or out of pride - out of unwillingness to succumb to the FIA and Militech. V has a very strong emotional and moral connection to Night City, he wouldn't betray the city. Never. V saves the Colonel's life, saves his dignity, saves his native Night City, Hansen in turn can and must save V from treason, even if not necessarily from death.

The virtual ending that stands before my eyes is an event I would tentatively call "And Justice for All"
All FIA agents must be caught, all of them: Reed, So Mi, Alex and (I really wish!) Hands. Not killed! All of them must be given a fair trial. All of their actions must be given a fair public assessment. And at that trial, the chief prosecutor, or chief witness, as I think is correct, should be Colonel Hansen. He has much to say about the glorious Agency, I'm sure.
The thing is... I don't want to talk about specific turf... I don't want to tie my post to specifics, but you know... Nothing great would have happened on the Pan-American continent without honest soldiers. The colonization of the Wild West, the Indian wars, the Mexican conflicts, the War of Independence, the World Wars...A lot of honest guys died for their ideals. And thus made one country great, you know.
So now what - ordinary soldiers can't even open their mouths? )) They don't even deserve it? Open narrative?
Hansen has to die in silence? He won't say anything before he dies? So the FIA freaks have the rights to shed their crocodile tears for hours at Phantom Liberty, but the soldiers are obligated to die in silence?
And our favorite V will forever be one of those who kills from the shadows - stabbes in the back like Alex? )) Only from behind, only from the shadows, only as a result of a "serious preplanned operation". Is he obliged to be like that?
So such a scenario is envisioned?
While I was playing Cyberpunk, I figured out the "Become a Night City Legend (posthumously)" category. Check.
I figured out the concept of imminent death. Check.
I even unexpectedly discovered the concept of self-sacrifice (That's in Cyberpunk!). Check.
But what about the category of honor?

Do you think our V has honor? Or does he deserve to have one, at least?
 
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If Hansen is really a victim of something, in my opinion, he's the victim of his own (poor) decisions like many of Cyberpunk characters.

If he hadn't made a deal with Songbird, if he had not launched missiles on Space Force One, if he hadn't hunted Myers away after the crash, Air Force One would never have crashed, Myers would never have put a foot in DogTown and he would likely still alive.

Like Jackie (or V), without the Heist, he would likely still alive. Or like Johnny, without assaulting the Arasaka tower, he would likely still alive.
 

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If Hansen is really a victim of something, in my opinion, he's the victim of his own (poor) decisions like many of Cyberpunk characters.

If he hadn't made a deal with Songbird, if he had not launched missiles on Space Force One, if he hadn't hunted Myers away after the crash, Air Force One would never have crashed, Myers would never have put a foot in DogTown and he would likely still alive.

Like Jackie (or V), without the Heist, he would likely still alive. Or like Johnny, without assaulting the Arasaka tower, he would likely still alive.
Well, I see your point. I don't mean to be harsh, not at all, but just....
Hansen was rescuing his wounded comrades. People who trusted him and followed him to the end.
And none of them shot him in the back during the Midnightstorm ops.
 
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Well, I see your point. I don't mean to be harsh, not at all, but just....
Hansen was rescuing his wounded comrades. People who trusted him and followed him to the end.
And none of them shot him in the back during the Midnightstorm ops.
Exactely like Jackie. So if Hansen died, it's because he decided to play with "fire" and got burn.
No one forced him to make a deal with Songbird, no one forced him to launch missiles on Space Force One, no one forced him to hunt Myers after the crash. So at the end, he was the victim of his own decisions, very bad decisions I could say.
 

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Exactely like Jackie. So if Hansen died, it's because he decided to play with "fire" and got burn.
No one forced him to make a deal with Songbird, no one forced him to launch missiles on Space Force One, no one forced him to hunt Myers after the crash. So at the end, he was the victim of his own decisions, very bad decisions I could say.
Despite the fact that his death was actually planned long ago in Washington?
And even if he had refused to pursue Myers after her landing, would that have saved him after all? My answer is not.
The operation to eliminate him had been prepared a long time ago.

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Alex is beautiful in her lies ))

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No, really, Alex )

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By the way, interesting is the situation when the girls contradict each other - Alex now, or Songbird back then in her hideout - when she said there was no way to leave the Agency. Say So Mi disobeyed orders, gone back...a dressing down by some bureaucrat'd be worst she'd have to endure...

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Personnaly I kind of want to believe So Mi in this situation, I don't even know why.

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And if we compare Hansen and Jackie on that basis, what do we get - Jackie's death was also preordained?
Then we're getting closer to my earlier assessment of Misty and her role in Jackie's fate.

P.S. Speaking of Songbird, well V isn't forced to take her deal by anyone either...as well as Hansen.
 
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I talk about Phantom Liberty. Myers didn't plan Songbird's "betrayal", Myers didn't plan to get hit by Hansen's missiles, Myers didn't plan to crash "badly" Air Force One in Dogtown and Myers didn't plan to be hunted by Hansen after the crash...
I could also say that if Hansen didn't make a deal with Songbird, nor Reed, Alex and V wouldn't have to "save" Songbird and so, wouldn't have to kill Hansen. Again, a consequence of a poor decision.

Without Hansen "poor" decisions, Myers would have continued on his way in Air Force One over Night City to his intended destination without bother about Hansen, about Dogtown or even about Night City (for now).

So no matter if Myers/NUSA planned to "kill/get ride of" Hansen at some point, if he died during Phantom Liberty events, it's his own fault. He simply precipitated his fall. He give Myers the stick to be beaten.
I could also say the same for V... If V die, it's only because of V's decisions, nothing else.

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I give you an example to be sure you get what I mean :)
Let's imagine your neighbor have a super mean and aggressive dog who really wants to eat you every time he sees you, something he can't do because there is a fence between your yard and your neighbor's yard. Then, for some reason, you decide to jump above the fence to enter in your neighbor's yard. Obviously, his dog will eat you very badly right away.

Now the quesion...
Are you the victim of the dog?
Or are you the victim of your own (poor) decision to jump above the fence?

I'm sorry, but for me, you're a victim of your own poor decision which was to jump above the fence. Exactly like Hansen during Phantom Liberty events, victim of his own decisions.
 
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I talk about Phantom Liberty. Myers didn't plan Songbird's "betrayal", Myers didn't plan to get hit by Hansen's missiles, Myers didn't plan to crash "badly" Air Force One in Dogtown and Myers didn't plan to be hunted by Hansen after the crash...
I could also say that if Hansen didn't make a deal with Songbird, nor Reed, Alex and V wouldn't have to "save" Songbird and so, wouldn't have to kill Hansen. Again, a consequence of a poor decision.

Without Hansen "poor" decisions, Myers would have continued on his way in Air Force One over Night City to his intended destination without bother about Hansen, about Dogtown or even about Night City (for now).
Hansen should have been eliminated anyway.

He's too dangerous. And Myers is planning an invasion...Which is hampered by two walls only in Night City, Arasaka and Hansen. First on her list is Hansen.

I don't agree neither about Hansen nor about V - they're both doomed.
So no matter if Myers/NUSA planned to "kill/get ride of" Hansen at some point, if he died during Phantom Liberty events, it's his own fault.
Absolutely not. Hansen dies at the hands of V.
Who, in the scenario, has no choice.
And if V had a choice - Hansen might still be alive. On the other hand, again, if V had a complete choice - it's not a fact that Myers would have been saved )) Myers is hardly any better than the Colonel, so....

I give you an example to be sure you get what I mean :)
Let's imagine your neighbor have a super mean and aggressive dog who really wants to eat you every time he sees you, something he can't do because there is a fence between your yard and your neighbor's yard. Then, for some reason, you decide to jump above the fence to enter in your neighbor's yard. Obviously, his dog will eat you very badly right away.

Now the quesion...
Are you the victim of the dog?
Or are you the victim of your own (poor) decision to jump above the fence?

I'm sorry, but for me, you're a victim of your own poor decision which was to jump above the fence. Exactly like Hansen during Phantom Liberty events, victim of his own decisions.
No. With all due respect, no ))
I don't accept that.
Thank you so much for your opinion )
 
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Speaking of alternate game endings, and keeping in mind the idea of V's self-sacrifice (well, we know pretty well by now that V has no chance of getting out of his existential problems unscathed anyway - he's doomed by the СDPR writers to lose either his life, his freedom or his human form of existence, etc.), is it conceivable that in an alternate reality, V would agree to die on the battlefield in Night City, repelling an incoming NUSA invasion, while the Colonel remains alive? That option seems quite likely to me. Then we get Memorial V in Memorial Park, in case the new Corporate War scenario does materialize. I think that in the event of an overt attack on Night City by the NUSA., V would be one of the city's defenders and a participant in the fighting. Do you think his friends would have come to the monument? ) How many would there have been and who exactly would it have been? ))
I'll say it again: I'm in favor of V being given complete freedom of choice, which he currently doesn't have in Phantom Liberty. The plucky hero is beaten one-handed by the FIA, and in choosing whose life to preserve and whose to throw in the trash, he is obliged to choose only between agents of this infamous organization, which is presented as the “choice of the millennium”.
Again: this framing of the issue I think is wrong. Secret agents and their opinions can not alternatively prevail over special forces soldiers, too much overt violence, direct armed conflict and large-scale warfare has been painted to us in the world of the cyber future. The men of the cause must be also captured on this virtual video file of yet another human story.
In addition, Hansen is personally acquainted:
a) with So Mi;
b) with Myers;
c) with Reed;
d) possibly Hands;
e) possibly Alex.
All of these people in the add-on were given unlimited freedom of speech regarding the Colonel, they describe his behavior in detail, as if each of them was appointed as his personal psychoanalyst.
Doesn't the Colonel Hansen have anything to say about the President of the NUSA and her valiant spies? Is he incapable of making moral judgments about behavior? Not a judge of character? Hardly. I really want the Colonel to finally be given maximum freedom of speech and to regale us with his revelations about the workings of the NUSA and Militech secret police in general and a few specific individuals in particular. He will reveal a great deal if he is allowed to speak. Let him give his assessment of our “complex and ambiguous characters”.
Let him provide his perspective on the FIA's “special missions” - in Colombia, for example. That way we will better understand what is going on in the territory of the “New America” united by the iron will of Rosalind Myers. And I am sure that after his comments, the story of “birds with broken wings” will look completely different than it did before.
 

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Strange thing is, I wanted to write my post about something completely different from what I wrote. It's the first time that's happened to me here, I guess, I usually know exactly what I want to write about.
Honestly, I wanted to already get to the part where I see Hansen as a potential mayor of Night City, and I wanted to already write about his supposed actions as mayor of the city. I wanted to show that he's already very credible and has a huge credibility among a wide variety of social groups (you can see that at least from the party at the Black Sapphire).

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Indeed, Lucius Rhyne is murdered, Holt is corrupted, Perales is zombified and brainwashed - Hansen, along with his Barghest, is practically the perfect person to bring order to the city (I'm aware that you're absolutely thrilled with the idea right now :D ).
However, the focus of my memory suddenly came back to Sylvester Stallone's Rambo film, and his idea of redeeming John Rambo, which he himself had been talking about so much.

Again about the same thing, only in different words:

As a rule, or almost always in Cyberpunk, we know the reason why a character has to be killed off. We know why Maiko Maeda, or Nash, or Solomon Reed, or Jotaro Shobo might be killed - the narrators almost always accompany us with a detailed biography and a list of the crimes of this or that character.
And why should a colonel fall (of necessity, without option) at the hands of a mercenary? Colonel, who I'm sure would have a bright future in Night City. Who himself has earned great respect among the bosses of Night City, including even the guys from Arasaka. Who combines intelligence, charisma, will, toughness and discipline - a very rare combination of qualities, even for this post-apocalyptic world. Who would be a real gift to the city, I'm sure. What's his fault? And what exactly does Hansen have to atone for with his death? We don't even have the Colonel's story to go with in our memories. Instead, we have Silverhand, the traitor So Mi, Reed, and even the murderous Alex, who we can not only have a drink with, but even dance with. A huge thank you to the script writers of CDPR, I've always believed in you, guys. (y)
 
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In fact, with the mediation of Barghest, some very interesting global level deals are already being brokered through Dogtown even now - and this despite all the NUSA sanctions and the efforts of Myers and the FIA to destabilise this part of Night City:

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Hansen is a recognisable figure even on the scale of global business ;)
It's hard to even imagine, what good it would do for Night City, If the Colonel were to free himself from pressure )
 
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