Pig dressed in human clothes or armor cut by a sword sure buddy
give me a sec.As for real human try looking on liveleak or maybe 4chan
Big thing is momentum and small point of force insertion
Pig dressed in human clothes or armor cut by a sword sure buddy
give me a sec.As for real human try looking on liveleak or maybe 4chan
Big thing is momentum and small point of force insertion
Pig dressed in human clothes or armor cut by a sword sure buddy
As for real human try looking on liveleak or maybe 4chan
Big thing is momentum and small point of force insertion
I'm interested in it for science, of course! I was told by someone who fights regularly with armor/weapons that completely decapitating/dismembering parts of the body in actual combat were rare occurrences. He said it was because of clothing, padding and armor making it very difficult to strike exposed flesh. He also said that in actual combat people would very rarely wind up attacks enough to generate the type of force necessary since it left you open to counterattack.
it was rare because European mortal art was more about pricing rather than slashing. It is impossible to make any damage by sword slash to steel armor, things like this on pic were used for this. Fighting techniques are fascinating
it was rare because European mortal art was more about pricing rather than slashing. It is impossible to make any damage by sword slash to steel armor, things like this on pic were used for this. Fighting techniques are fascinating
Yeah, a warhammer could be very effective against someone wearing armor. So no luck finding any videos of chopping a clothed opponent in half? I could not find any in my search. I saw people getting cut but not completely in half.
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That video proved my point. The slashing/slicing weapon (katana) was able to penetrate the clothing while the chopping weapon (longsword) just bounced off. Watch for yourself at 5 minutes and 10 seconds into the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EDkoj932YFo#t=310
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Katana is superior to any weapon due to its 100 milion times folding and low quality japan steel
xD i love all this disputes about european swords vs katana
Man this longsword is so fake... And is clear that the man of the video planned everything to make katana superior in every point
I mean the katana they're holding obviously was made with modern technology and this sword is such a trash replica of a real knight sword...
The point is that leather/cloth wouldn't help much, you would still chop arm/shoulder off easily. As you can see from the Katana strike.
That Longsword vs Katana comparison is pure bullshit...
You're missing the point. You can't chop effectively through armor or clothing. You can slice and slash effectively with a blade that is designed to do so, but attempting to chop will bounce off just like the video showed. The katana strike didn't chop through anything, it sliced.
Chopping is hitting an object square on. Slicing/slashing is drawing the edge of the blade along the object. If you were to slice with a longsword you could cut through clothing but not with enough momentum or force to dismember something completely.
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Here's what fighting with a longsword looks like and why dismembering people with it is a bit silly:
This is why I think dismembering should be very limited in TW3 and not something that is common.
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That's not fighting.. looks more like a ballet
Incorrect. They're demonstrating maneuvers which were used for longsword fighting in medieval times. They've studied texts from the time period to learn the techniques which were actually used. Yes, those are all very real maneuvers used in combat at the time. See this site for reference:
http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_arms_gls.php
A quote from that page:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZNoBTDR9kY "Longsword Cutting Session - Debunking Lock N Load Blades" This is what you needed man, glad to help. Loved the music in this...
In other words, the chopping just got real. I always loved that bloody mess perk in Fallout...
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Thank you. This was exactly what I was asking for earlier when I requested a video showing what a longsword would actually do against clothing.
Funny thing is, I only looked it up because of his words, I am used to using blunt longswords and axes all the time, as does my friend, Simon... in the ACL (Armored Combat League) http://youtu.be/A1d72hbLaic
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After watching the video you linked of the sword vs. clothing the video I previously linked (showing actual longsword maneuvers used in medieval times) makes a lot of sense. The maneuvers were designed to get the longsword into a position where quick thrusts with the point of the sword or quick slashes could be performed. Very rarely were long wind ups used for attacks since it left you open to counterattack and you'd quickly die if you were do so in actual combat. This is why dismemberment being a common occurrence is rather silly.
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Right, all I meant with my comparison is we don't train to kill in armored combat groups these days...
I'm just glad I found it because showing the real damage makes the violence level in game realistically fitting.Right, all I meant with my comparison is we don't train to kill in armored combat groups these days...
As long as dismemberment is kept to a minimum in TW3 then I'll be happy. It should be very rare and difficult to do so, especially since most people you will be fighting will be wearing some type of armor.
See, this I can get with, on buckles, metal plate, chain, yeah, that's a tougher programing level of perfection no matter how it is approached. Dismemberment, would depend on armor, exposed leather armored limbs and Witcher strength would apply what the; ehem not so in shape, but very well versed, sword owner, could not show us (chopping all the way through).
My question with gameplay combat is are they going to have targetable points on weak penetration spots of solid armor (for realism), I did not see that in the demo, maybe I missed something...
I mean there's more to find out about the whole system. All good stuff to discuss, indeed.
European Medieval combat is something I am well read on, and fascinated by. I have a really good account of what medieval wounds would have looked like, from the battle of visby. Here
Dismemberment of an armored opponent is possible, but not likely with a sword. A poleaxe likely inflicted the wound in which both legs were lost. Most of the wounds identified are either to the forearm, ankles or skulls. It looks like because of wearing armor that protected the torso, most people were taken out of action by aiming for less well-protected areas such as legs and arms and then killed later with hits to the head. Though, to be completely fair soft tissue wounds would not be identifiable via skeleton, so there is some room for error here.
Dismemberment of an armored opponent is possible, but not likely with a sword. A poleaxe likely inflicted the wound in which both legs were lost. Most of the wounds identified are either to the forearm, ankles or skulls. It looks like because of wearing armor that protected the torso, most people were taken out of action by aiming for less well-protected areas such as legs and arms and then killed later with hits to the head. Though, to be completely fair soft tissue wounds would not be identifiable via skeleton, so there is some room for error here.