Whatever they do, they need to pick up the pace. Modders and others are leaving them in the dust
Isn't that what modders are supposed to do?
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Isn't that what modders are supposed to do?
Creating a game and modifying an existing game seem to be a little bit different for me.
And maybe CDPR have a fully functional FSR on CP, bu they didn't plan to make a video for show it before they release it.
But I said that, I said nothing
Its real simple - like any other social organism, a community has to be fed to continue. If there isn't going to be contact, why even bother? Information is the beasts primary diet. If this is missing, it will find other ways to achieve satiety. If you don't communicate, someone else will.
Well..... yeah. Just not usually to a game that is essentially still in active development
Creating a game and modifying an existing game seem to be a little bit different for me.
And maybe CDPR have a fully functional FSR on CP, bu they didn't plan to make a video for show it before they release it.
But I said that, I said nothing
Modification is secondary. The game must first be created for it to be modified. Modders
are adding things to the game (which is arguably unfinished), and implementing secondary
methods of improving performance and graphical fidelity at a faster pace then the very
creators of the game. Reflect on that for a minute.....
While pretty much anything is "possible", I'd classify this one has "highly unlikely". Though it
is quite possible they're presently working on it's implementation to the engine's environment
for a future patch, or even the "next gen" update, if it were functional for last-gen, they would
introduce it immediately for the massive improvement in performance it would provide across
the board.
Exactly. I don't think anyone here is expecting specifics. But official community relations people on
their very own forums, would go a long way toward keeping speculation and misinformation in check.
Yeah, I could try to reflect, but like everybody, I have no infos on :
What CDPR is working on, what are they planning to do exactly, what improvements they are planning,...
So It could be difficult to make a reflexion based on "I suppose", "I imagine", "I hope", "could", "maybe", "probably", "I think",...
Maybe even more on "modders are working faster than CDPR"
I prefer finished products. So I'd like to see the core game finished before we start getting DLCs. Waiting isn't an issue, I am patient.
It's all relative my friend, but in this case I believe a little impatience is warranted.
All it could take right now to ease so much confusion, tension and even anger at the current state of what's happening with the game is for one person with enough knowledge within CDPR to sit down for less than an hour and write a few paragraphs on what's going on. No promises of anything, no dates, just a brief idea of where they are with either bug fixes, dlc, next gen update, expansions, or all of them.
It doesn't have to be detailed at all (which is why it can take less than an hour), the key point is giving players a short idea of where they currently are. Then those few paragraphs get passed around higher ups, a few bits probably get edited, then the main twitter account links to it and this current issue is behind us.
So maybe a couple of hours in total with the edits if it was done without it being over-complicated.
It doesn't solve everything and is never intended to because we're stil waiting for patches, dlc, next gen and further out expansions, but at least this current confusion that's been going on for over a month as we see regular updates to the testing branch would be over.
I actually really like the idea of this now, reading it back. I think I should be employed as a part time PR guy. If any CDPR staff are reading and agree : I'm going to need regular access to the latest builds to be able to communicate properly with the players, I only agree to work from home, and only part time. Just send me an email and I'll start. If you want to give me access to the main twitter account to post mad memes and cause all other types of chaos I'm available for that too.
It doesn't have to be detailed at all (which is why it can take less than an hour), the key point is giving players a short idea of where they currently are. Then those few paragraphs get passed around higher ups, a few bits probably get edited, then the main twitter account links to it and this current issue is behind us.
So maybe a couple of hours in total with the edits if it was done without it being over-complicated.
It doesn't solve everything and is never intended to because we're stil waiting for patches, dlc, next gen and further out expansions, but at least this current confusion that's been going on for over a month as we see regular updates to the testing branch would be over.
I actually really like the idea of this now, reading it back. I think I should be employed as a part time PR guy. If any CDPR staff are reading and agree : I'm going to need regular access to the latest builds to be able to communicate properly with the players, I only agree to work from home, and only part time. Just send me an email and I'll start. If you want to give me access to the main twitter account to post mad memes and cause all other types of chaos I'm available for that too.
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In jun 60% of a 500+ dev team were still working on cyberpunk. Which is still a significant number. Bugs fixes has been the order of the day since launch with stability a priority. CDPR now consider the stability of the game to be satisfactory and will begin to focus more on other stuff (DLC as well as more bug fixes and QoL improvements). When they have something to say they will say it loud and clear. Until then play the game or play one of the other excellent games that are about.
First let me be clear, I'm definitely pro Projekt. LOL but GD, for a company that has been caught with its pants down this just doesn't see to be the correct way to proceed (imo). I mean who's calling the shots - Chris Roberts?
I think there's quite a few of us already playing other games, we'd just prefer to be playing this as well if there's a decent update so check back here/twitter, etc, to see if there's any news, then as this has gone on for a while it's led to confusion. Hopefully we'll get some info soon anyway.
You're a rare breed, my friend. A rare breed indeed
Well, thanks. I appreciate that. But I am probably not that rare of a breed, there are probably millions of gamers not posting (and some that are) that have the same mindset. They just want a great game, and the game will be ready when it's ready, and not before.
One of the things I have learned as I have grown older is that it doesn't really matter. Well it does matter, you want to encourage the art you enjoy. But there's always going to another shiny object to capture your attention. Waiting for a better product is a good thing. And as you get older, it gets easier, waiting and passing time. You learn if you want quality, you need to give it time.
I understand it's a subjective question, but how often do you get perfect art? Trying to hurry projects along is exactly part of the problem the gaming industry is having right now. You cannot rush creativity. You have to let a creative mind do its thing at its own pace. Otherwise you get crap.
It amazes me how many people around here keep saying things like "thank god we have mods", forgetting (or not caring) about console players.
We can't rely on mods to fix or improve the broken or less fleshed out aspects of the game. That in the long run will create an even bigger gap between the consoles (even new-gen ones) and pc version of the game.
It's up to CDPR to start showing they are working on something else beside optimization and bug fixing. It's been 8 months people. Time to release new content and improve things to fill that gap, or the console versions of the game will be left in the dust soon, next gen update or not.
We can't rely on mods to fix or improve the broken or less fleshed out aspects of the game. That in the long run will create an even bigger gap between the consoles (even new-gen ones) and pc version of the game.
It's up to CDPR to start showing they are working on something else beside optimization and bug fixing. It's been 8 months people. Time to release new content and improve things to fill that gap, or the console versions of the game will be left in the dust soon, next gen update or not.
On the other hand, if it weren't for consoles, the game would be in an entirely different state right now. I can imagine that the majority of development time these past 8 months has gone to fixing problems on these ancient systems. I wish they developed their games only for pc so they would have more time perfecting the game on a system that can actually convey their true vision. Sadly it wouldn't be financially viable.
When you look at it as a player, they should have ditched the old gen altogether before release. They would have dodged quite the bullet. From business standpoint, there was no way in hell they would do that. But now they have to pay the price.
I partially agree with that. They should have ditched old-gen way before release, given the results. But since they chose not to, they now have an obligation toward console players to not make them feel like second-rank consumers. Maybe even third-rank, if you have the misfortune of playing it on base XOne or Ps4.
Still, i hope they're working on dlcs and expansions too (as planned), because patches and optimization can only keep players interested in the game for so long.
Speaking as a console player, their vision might have been better realized if they'd bothered to make a game playable rather than make a bunch of unnecessary cosmetic editions. I was here for the story and the world but I can't enjoy it when I was charged 60 dollars for something that crashed every half hour.
I am a PC only gamer. When it comes to controllers and thumb sticks, I am very unskilled, probably to a comical degree.
Well, console games or PC gamers shouldn't really feel sorry for each other, they are different markets to some degree. It's hard to mix us in online worlds because the controllers and mouse/keyboard tools are just different.
But, the console gamers got RDR2 before us PC folks did, and yall got "The Last of Us" and we never got to play that one.
Having said that, I still do feel for yall on consoles with CP77. It sounds like it was a rough deal. We all waited long for the game, and ya'll got the shitter end of the stick this time.
Let's hug.
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