altaybek;n10296472 said:Firstly, the game is of course CDPR's property. They can abandon it without a warning, make all cards 0,47 point just for fun, remove all golds just because someone in design team had a bad lunch, close the beta again just to include 39 people, make it possible to buy 50 points bonus every match, put monthly subscription, make Options button DLC or any ridiculous thing you can imagine and they don't have to explain why. But they chose not to do for a reason. We are not the guests here, they are the guests in our lives and they know it. We voluntarily invited these guests because we love hanging around with these fun and smart dudes. Their former actions proved them to be trustworthy and caring so no need to worry about leaving your pets, credit cards and house keys behind.
Have you ever heard the phrase 'if you build it, they will come'?
That's videogames in a nutshell. They built a thing, we've come to play. Not to mention your metaphor completely collapses because we are playing on servers they pay for and maintain. We are quite literally guests on their turf, and they could probably IP ban people if they wanted to. You can choose not to attend the GWENT house party, but the house party will go on without you, and the house will stand even if you leave. In fact, if we all left, the house would still be there, until the GWENT team decided to shut it down and go build another house and try to start another party.
So let's leave that metaphor behind, shall we?
altaybek;n10296472 said:They also know that mutual satisfaction is the best way to succeed. They are working hard and sweating over how to make things better not only for their personal satisfaction but for receiving end's (us) satisfaction. No sexual innuendo here.
I think you need to have a chat with EA, as they've definitely not got this memo. CDPR have a company ethic that emphasises the player experience over the traditional mental manipulations that a lot of developers have begun to use. They make - as a consequence - far less money than they probably could. Many people pointed out that the free content given away during Witcher 3's life cycle could easily have been sold as mini DLC and would, even as mini DLC, have been superior to a lot of the competition's comparable offerings, since they attached quests to a lot of the extra items and things they added. It was likewise pointed out that not one but both of the paid DLCs were sold at a ridiculously low price for the amount of content they contained, and that they could both have been sold as entirely separate games and still had more content than a lot of full price releases on the market.
Consequently gamers like CDPR but CDPR makes a lot less money than other companies that gamers hate, but whose games they can't stop playing. Any economics-minded person is going to point out that CDPR are factually less successful, and using less successful business practices. Accordingly, they choose to take the route of mutual satisfaction, not for success, as you claim, but because they just want to.
At its most cynical you could say they're trying to build a brand based on this, in the hope of attracting more disillusioned gamers down the road, but good PR is a long-term investment and not a reliable indicator of monetary reward.
altaybek;n10296472 said:Considering this one a valid and proper season is as cringy as explaining why it's not. It's a disaster season/patch that needed a rollback (yes that's impossible because it's way easier to fix apparent problems than reverting it back and dealing with a whole new number of unknown problems.) Player ranks and MMR in this season are far from their deserved values thanks to tons of faulty mechanics.
Which mechanics are actually faulty? As far as I can tell almost everything works correctly. I can't think of many bugs I've run into this season, or cards not doing what I think they're going to, or wolves spawning on the opponent's side of the board based on the order of playing moonlight.
altaybek;n10296472 said:-When worse players (misplaying countless times, oblivious to what a cards does, just playing same cards with the exact same order because the guide said so etc.) overcome better players (planning, predicting, customizing etc) by abusing a faulty deck thus preventing non-abusing players reach where they belong (may belong to R10 or 20. It's irrelevant)
How do you know they're a) worse b) misplaying 'countless' times as opposed to maybe one or two that you witnessed and c) are following a guide?
How do you know that they're beating better players, given most of those better players are either on pro ladder or using dorfs themselves?
What exactly is 'faulty' about dorfs? It's OP, yes, but it's entire strength comes from it being a near-faultless engine of point creation that leaves very few exploitable holes and is incredibly consistent, reliable, and not at all prone to bad hands (the achilles' heel of most good decks). The one true problem with dorfs is that it's the only such deck in the format. If the entire format had decks as powerful and consistent dorfs would be just another good deck, and you can easily argue that the best 'fix' to the dorfs situation is buffing every other faction to the same level; but buffs are very hard and nerfs are comparitively easy, so that's the safer route to take.
altaybek;n10296472 said:-When this abuse is rewarded with extra commodities and cosmetic stuff that's only obtainable by reaching a certain rank
it annoys me to the bits. This seasons ranking (neither high or low) is not an indicator for deserving the proposed awards. Premium weekend was a nice gesture yet what good is it when it's pointless to play that card?
Everyone uses the best thing in every game ever. Should players using the best gun in a Call of Duty game be banned because they're not as good as players using other guns? What about the ever-derided 'noob tube'?
altaybek;n10296472 said:What good is a mundane avatar in a beta game that I probably won't even use? Rank avatars are, subjectively valuable, symbols for success. They should be indicating that person played well, bested many players and reached some higher level of play. Can you say that a regular dwarf player have it because he/she played well? Was it him/her or the "broken mechanic" itself that should have the avatar? For this once, its non-deserved value should be nullified by giving it away to every player.
Well... it doesn't. Sorry. It indicates you grinded a lot. And that's really about it. GWENT's rank up system actually favours less skilled players because you lose relatively few points for a loss, so luck of the draw means you'll hit enough weaker decks - or at least decks your deck of choice can beat - to maintain and slowly rise in rank. There's no real value anyway, and they gave away all the most iconic characters as the base avatars, save maybe Vilgefortz? He is the series' main villain after all.
altaybek;n10296472 said:You are saying everyone and I'm saying a number of people. Way too many people are ABUSING it and that's punishing those who don't chose to ABUSE. You understand the difference between an "abuse" and "playing what they want" right? They don't want it. People who want to reach higher ranks are abusing this guaranteed way. I can find an exploit in game and abuse it to rank my way to the top and it would still be "using whatever means are available in the game." It wouldn't be my fault to discover an existing problem yet it's not normal to abuse it. Would you say "Oh sorry it's not your fault it was the programmer who made the mistake. Here, join Masters anyway"?
'playing' is not 'abusing'. You clearly are struggling with this difference. Emhyr returning opposing units to his hand is a bug. Any deck that used this bug to climb was abusing an exploit the game designers didn't intent or want in the game, and explicitly chimed in on a thread about it saying that they'd ban anyone who said how it could be accomplished, and anyone they actually caught using it.
It is not abuse to play the best deck in a format. That's what people who like to win at things do. It is unfortunate that the developers messed up the last patch enough that one deck in particular is pretty much the best.
Nobody is hacking your game. Nobody is hijacking the netcode to forcibly disconnect you and claim wins for free. They're just playing a really powerful deck.
altaybek;n10296472 said:Of course I can craft a deck just to counter dwarves in most matchups but that can ONLY win against dwarves and occasionaly some others. Meanwhile dwarves don't even need to tech against any particular deck while having a higher WR of ANY other metadeck. No deck is Holy Grail but this is close to being one for now and that's no thanks of the player who steers it. That's why a number of people above some certain MMR level normally couldn't even imagine anchoring where they are let alone reaching there.
Christ on a bike, just run nekkers! They have a favourable matchup against dorfs and beat most of the rest of the field reliably as well. To the point some people are projecting them as the next doom on a stick when the dorfs finally fall. Look not at the trees, for the forest looms all around, and it is full of darkness and terrors. And nekkers eating things.
altaybek;n10296472 said:As a retail worker, ever heard of something named "defective good"? I probably heard a lot more than I cursed when I was too in retail for years. Providers are owed a compensation when something isn't the exact experience they proposed. We are customers and of course I know that it never makes us owners or shareholders to the company just because we may have voluntarily paid them a small amount for some service or goods but If it wasn't for the money many people "sinked" in TW2, TW3 and Gwent, we wouldn't be talking here. Judging by the amount handed out in tournaments, I guess people sinked a nice amount of money.
As a retail worker who works in the games industry, I hear about it all the time, and a lot of the time my answer to the customer is 'no, you aren't entitled to a refund because you don't like the game you bought that works perfectly fine'.
And does it need to be said that you paid nothing to play GWENT anyway? Unless you bought kegs - and I know there's people who haven't, I've ONLY bought them to support CDPR and when I really wanted more scraps for something - you could have had about a year and a half of gameplay - of admittedly variable quality - completely free.
The one and only thing I'd consider a fair ask of CDPR over this is not to drop people's rank points as much at the end of the season, since points will be artificially lower for a lot of players. But hey, if I wanted to I could run dorfs and get to 4k. I just choose not to because I play this game for fun, not for arbitrary rewards that don't actually mean anything, and the dorfs deck makes me want to claw my own eyes out. I'm happy bobbing around at 3.5 with decks I enjoy playing instead.
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