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Wolfspyryt

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#21
Jun 7, 2015
xxgwxx said:
No, they never "threw books away". They were always CANON, because the games start when the books end, so everything that happened in the saga is relevant to the game story. The problem is with Geralt's amnesia.Every since they came up with this idea, you could expect that one day Geralt would eventually regain his memories. (because duh, it's always like that) .And he did. And this little fact changed everything, whether you like it or not. He once again became a 'book' Geralt (+amnesia).
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Can't disagree with that argument, very valid. Having said that this video game world story now includes a new memory that the books never had, a full blown relationship with Triss.


xxgwxx said:
Also I don't like dictating the devs what they 'should' do and what they should not do. It's THEIR game, their ideas. They can include as many book references as they please (or none at all). They are the authors. They could even kill Triss off, if they wished. What would you do then? I also saw some posts about Ciri, that she shouldn't be a central character because"we don't know her and don't care about her". The point is : so what? Don't deprive the makers of their freedom to do whatever the hell they want with the storyline.
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Ofc the devs are free to expand there ideas any way they wish, like you said, it is there game at the end of the day. I'm just asking for consistency in the story line, after what Geralt and Triss have been through together in Witcher 1-2. From what I can see, it just seems they have dropped the ball.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#22
Jun 7, 2015
The thing is, of course, the games also fumbled the ball with the fact that Triss wasn't set up to be someone Geralt lived happily ever after with in Witcher 1 and 2 as well.

The games very clearly had it as subtext that Geralt WOULD regain his memories and WOULD be FURIOUS at Triss.

That scene is absent from the Witcher 3 and I'm mad about that because we needed it.

The scene where Geralt remembers Yennefer in a series of images and realizes that Triss did him wrong.

Only THEN can we make a choice between her and Yennefer.
 
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xxgwxx

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#23
Jun 7, 2015
Willowhugger said:
The thing is, of course, the games also fumbled the ball with the fact that Triss wasn't set up to be someone Geralt lived happily ever after with in Witcher 1 and 2 as well.

The games very clearly had it as subtext that Geralt WOULD regain his memories and WOULD be FURIOUS at Triss.

That scene is absent from the Witcher 3 and I'm mad about that because we needed it.

The scene where Geralt remembers Yennefer in a series of images and realizes that Triss did him wrong.

Only THEN can we make a choice between her and Yennefer.
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Yeah, I don't really get why Geralt seems so chill about it. I didn't really expected him to be 'furious' at Triss but some serious conversation would be nice.
 
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hawkeyesforever

Rookie
#24
Jun 7, 2015
I won't go so far as the OP, but I agree somewhat. Triss has a major lack of content after the lighthouse scene save for 1 quest. Yen seems to have more content with a clear bias towards her. Both could stand to use more content though since Act 3 seems a bit rushed.

That and I haven't even gotten into how Triss just stands there saying "Well?" on the boat like an afterthought.
 
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glesson

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#25
Jun 7, 2015
It's a problem with all characters though. They have little banter outside quest related dialogue. Both Triss and Yennefer deserved more content throughout the game. You spent three games with Triss as a major character and waiting for Yennefer & Ciri to make an appearance and in the end you barely have any interactions with them. The game would greatly benefit with more scenes like the fountain scene with Triss/megascope scene with Yenn and snowball fight with Ciri.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#26
Jun 7, 2015
The game is criminally missing three conversations:

* Geralt and Triss discussing the betrayal.

* Yennefer and Triss hashing it out over the latter's enormous betrayal.

* Geralt explaining to Ciri he's now with Triss and no longer with Yennefer or that he's back with or alone now.
 
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Charcharo

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#27
Jun 7, 2015
Wolfspyryt said:
Obviously you havn't read the whole post of didn't watch the video before commenting, the books are irrelevant as the game is irrelevant to Andrzej Sapkowski. The love interest that has spanned all 3 games is hardly the littlest thing to nitpick about, grow a brain dude.

What's more, CDPR have not stayed true to the books in Witcher 1-2, they are new stories which involved Triss and a major love interest, especially when you see the video made by CDPR, so why make the books relevant now, coz they are not in the video game. We need balance, that is all.
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What Sapkowski thinks has no relevance on the books.

Sapkowski is an authority on the book cannon. CDPR are game designers. They are authority on the games.

If CDPR wants the games to consider the books cannon... Sapkowski can say nothing. It is their choice. Not his.

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Willowhugger said:
I think the video game universe is actually more popular than the books at this time, even though the books are extraordinarily popular (and more so because of the game).

I think the games should do their own thing while respecting the past established in the books.

They're their own thing now.

An alternate universe.
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Goes like this:

Sapkowsi:
Books

CDPR:
Books-> Games.

Also, video games are popular than books. No book can ever hope to be on the same level of popularity... the shitty truth of todays youth...
 
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Jou05

Rookie
#28
Jun 7, 2015
There is already a Triss thread post there otherwise Yen fans will get salty

btw I agree with you Triss got shafted and Yen was forced on us
 
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Wolfspyryt

Rookie
#29
Jun 7, 2015
Willowhugger said:
The thing is, of course, the games also fumbled the ball with the fact that Triss wasn't set up to be someone Geralt lived happily ever after with in Witcher 1 and 2 as well.

The games very clearly had it as subtext that Geralt WOULD regain his memories and WOULD be FURIOUS at Triss.

That scene is absent from the Witcher 3 and I'm mad about that because we needed it.

The scene where Geralt remembers Yennefer in a series of images and realizes that Triss did him wrong.

Only THEN can we make a choice between her and Yennefer.
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Well she did try to restore his memory in the first place, but can't disagree that she gave him the eyes after. Perhaps Triss should have respected Yen's relationship with Geralt, but Yen made zero effort to find her man, so imo she doesn't have much to complain about if she couldn't be bothered. Also, what man is going to turn down a super hot red head sorceress when you have no memory of anything else. Granted if he had remembered Yen at the outset, he might of refused Triss, but tbh, I seriously doubt that as he is quite happy to shag any female that offers it on a plate in Witcher 1 where the relationship started.
 
Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#30
Jun 7, 2015
Honestly, this is shocking and disturbing.

I felt the Triss and Geralt romance only worked BECAUSE of the horrible betrayal.

It was so much deeper because of it.
 
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