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stahimooney

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Feb 19, 2013
Cp2020 game on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb4LJgO919U&list=UU2e0bNZ6CzT-Xvr070VaGsw&index=3 (session 2)

http://www.twitch.tv/projared/b/368596416 (session 3)

The GM's a little rusty...
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#2
Feb 19, 2013
Oooh, goody! Another insa, err...brave soul!

<rubs hands together> I shall watch and then ask really, really titchy questions later!
 
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stahimooney

Rookie
#3
Feb 19, 2013
Constructive comments are welcome. It was a short fuse familiarization game with experienced P&P players but not so in the CP2020 setting. It is stated early that on short notice a few plots from novels in the genre are mashed together for a loose storyline. There were a few rules mods agreed to prior to the game and storytelling is preferred by all parties over rules lawyering. (Yes I know about the full auto thing... and addressed it in the comments for the video) Also I have been going pretty easy on the group as a whole. Back in the day I would have surely offed one or two by the 3rd session and 10hours of game play accumulated.

Rule mods mentioned early are:

Reflex boosters. I allow the players to apply them across the board. (but badguys get it too) They must activate but I allow it for all REF rolls.
Clone Insurance: Modeled loosely on Voice of the Whirlwind
Armored Superchrome: I allow it (2020 book sez no) and I only have it count as one option.
Basic outfit: I don't make them buy the mundane crap. $500 and you have a bag, sleeping gear, a couple pairs of clothes, cell phone, music player and so on. If it's a role specific tool (instruments for rockerboys/girls, techscanners, Cyberdecks and so on) I make them buy that seperately.

It's been a few years since I have run a game but I am getting back into it remembering stuff.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#4
Feb 20, 2013
I AM ENJOYING YOUR ADVENTURES.

You lack The Puppy, The Reverend, Trinity and MAX AWESOME COOKIE among others, but it's still amusing.

The woman corrects the man about weapons in a Cyberpunk game. I regret my current marriage suddenly.

It's Militech SSG, not SMG, in the trailer. FOOLS. It's a whole letter!

You know the "May blow up in hand" description! Excellent! I thought it was the Dai Lung Cybermag as well, whoops. Wisdom could tell us.

"Is an autopistol a handgun." I blagoogleness.

How can his car not have GPS. HOW? HOOOOOW?

"I thought Jared had a car?" "He did, but it blew up in space." "Well, that sucks." SPLAIN. Sounds like sixteen kinds of awesome to me.

I find it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally frustrating not to be able to yell at you and your players as I listen. To compensate, I have yelled at my children. APPRECIATE.

Well, time to make lasagna or my daughter will murtilate me. She says. KIDS.

More commentary later. You lucky fellow.
 
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username_3641692

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#5
Feb 20, 2013
Oh this is rather nice you share this!
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#6
Feb 20, 2013
Right, where was I?

Body type is not necessarily size related: it encompasses not only Strength, but also Endurance and Constitution. And comes with French fries.

You didn't mention if he swallowed half the Booster.

IT'S NOT A ROBOT. STOP CALLING IT A ROBOT. It's not a robot, is it?

I approve of letting them use Luck after the roll. J'approve! Don't forget weapon accuracy and mods for target movement, REF and so forth!

Make. Combat. Faster. DO EET.

If he says 'GTFO" one..more..time....

Also, are these guys really shooting a Body-plated cyborg with a handgun? And there are ALWAYS weak points! Your cyborg is unrealistic and silly! "Chrome head to toe!" Pfui! How does he -move-? How does he -breathe-? Your autofire...yeah, you know. Also, DO MORE NEGATVE MODS! It's hard to hit in Cpunk, which is good!

C-SWAT can't just teleport when things go wrong! Also, who built this Thing? Body-plating and weapon implants are expensive and tough to get.

Jared. You CAN do this. Someone tell Jared about micro-net hacking. Later, have him thank me.

Range on grenade launcher at long is like, 225m! How far ahead ARE they? It's Extreme at 450m..which might seem like a lot until you throw in targetting and stabilization mods...DO NOT GIVE UP MY BIOMECHANICAL BRETHREN.

It's a stolen car, Jared. Tell them about the modern criminal code...the one based on the military codes. TELL THEM.
 
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stahimooney

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#7
Feb 20, 2013
:) Awesome feedback. I am always looking for ways to polish and improve. I am in a rush so I will stop at that and address your comments in more detail when I have more than a couple minutes.

It is my responsibility (since I threw it out there and asked...) to respond to every comment as well as I can. No excuses. Explanations as best I can. When I am wrong (and often am) I will admit it and thank you for straightening me out. It's not an ego thing at all. Unless someone is trolling I consider it a learning experience good or bad.

Thanks Brother.
Chris
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#8
Feb 20, 2013
And I'm only half way done the first session, too.

I like to listen to you guys and shout imprecations at your players while I play STALKER. Many mutants have died horribly and unnecessarily after some obtuse question or statement. Alrthough I did like Jared's, "So let's drive for 70 miles or so. Away." Heh.
 
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stahimooney

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#9
Feb 21, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4HdBL_Q-Tw

Pardon the shoddy camera work... I am not talented at multitasking (when I am not on Ritalin... :) )
 
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stahimooney

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#10
Feb 21, 2013
Sardukhar said:
I AM ENJOYING YOUR ADVENTURES.

You lack The Puppy, The Reverend, Trinity and MAX AWESOME COOKIE among others, but it's still amusing.

The woman corrects the man about weapons in a Cyberpunk game. I regret my current marriage suddenly.

It's Militech SSG, not SMG, in the trailer. FOOLS. It's a whole letter!

You know the "May blow up in hand" description! Excellent! I thought it was the Dai Lung Cybermag as well, whoops. Wisdom could tell us.

"Is an autopistol a handgun." I blagoogleness.

How can his car not have GPS. HOW? HOOOOOW?

"I thought Jared had a car?" "He did, but it blew up in space." "Well, that sucks." SPLAIN. Sounds like sixteen kinds of awesome to me.

I find it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally frustrating not to be able to yell at you and your players as I listen. To compensate, I have yelled at my children. APPRECIATE.

Well, time to make lasagna or my daughter will murtilate me. She says. KIDS.

More commentary later. You lucky fellow.
Click to expand...

I am going to attempt to respond to both posts in one reply so bear with me... or be bare with me... no wait that sounded bad.

I am not getting the reference to the characters you are mentioning. Is that maybe a reference to Zdorab's game? We are actually talking about doing a crossover session but that's a lot of logistics to sort. We've been chatting back and forth for a couple weeks now.

Christine is awesome. She seems to be the voice of reason at times. (Ironic as her character is the only Solo at this point)
My own wife doesn't get Cyberpunk at all and I can't get her to go to the gun range with me at all. Although she once called me and asked me if my black rifle would shoot through the bedroom door. She had felt threatened and locked herself in the bedroom. I was like yes... lean it on the bed, aim about six inches to the left of the door and walk it across. Reload if necessary. It didn't come to that thankfully, but that's not a call you soon forget. I called the individual and told him that she was locked and loaded, I'd be there soon. Leave her alone. (It's a long story and he was a childhood friend staying with me. I still consider him a brother, but in that moment shit got real. I don't even blame him. There was a lot going on.)

Militech SSG... Did I say that? For the most part we haven't gone outside of the main rulebook (except me I cheat... LOL) I'll have to go back and try to find that part in the Vid. But yes it is a Militech SSG. (which kinda makes me wonder what kind of ammo. In the trailer she had a FMJ bounce off her cheek... a 20 guage shotgun is pretty small... but that is certainly another debate)

The BudgetArms Auto 3 has the "cheap, powerful and blows up sometimes" description but I want to say it's somewhere else as well maybe in a sidebar or something in another book I was sure that it was the Dai Lung Cybermag (or maybe Streetmaster)... It'll bug me until I find it.

Autopistol is an uncommon term. It you are not familiar with the game it's an honest mistake.

GPS in the car? You have a point. I had this discussion with the players: Do we want to update the technology to reflect the last 20 years or play it as it was in the early 90's. We discussed alot of these things in the first session before it was live. This will answer another question you had but I actually fastforwarded the timeline a few years and I think we had decided to use the old tech for the most part. Don't quote me on that. It is a "suspension of disbelief" violation.

Peroxicide's Car... I allowed them to make their characters on their own and then we tweaked them a bit before the game started. Then I pulled the rug out from under them. They had all been killed and were waking up as clones. Peroxicide had been in LEO and had died suspiciously in a docking accident that resulted in explosive decompression. It was hinted that an AI was controlling the docking manuever. His memories were less than 6 months old. The Law, was murdered in questionable circumstances and hadn't bothered to back up his memories in YEARS. (This idea was borroewed heavily from Voice of the Whirlwind by Walter Jon Williams) There was a 2nd wife and a kid he didn't remember. Destin decided to give his character a clean break from the past so hasn't attempted to reconnect. Doc had been part of a deep space mission that had failed. (Borrowed from Walter Jon Williams' Lethe) her memories had been backed up and transmitted back before the mission failed but her lover had not. Since that person was lost to her she decided to undergo the Lethe procedure to edit this person out of her memories completely, but there are complications to the memory thing. The clone facility was in Louisville Ky, and the Belle storyline is borrowed from Rudy Rucker's "Ware" series. (As is my online psuedonym) So in a short answer Jared's Car is probably waiting for him in a long term storage facility near a spaceport.

Lasagna. Fat orange cats approve.

@ Prospect 101 Thank you for the comment.

Body Type... I agree and disagree here. I know some very strong people that are relatively compact. I am sure you know already but this is for the benefit of someone reading it that may not be familiar.
There's a lot to be debated about size vs. strength but this guy is a Alpha Class Full Conversion (from description on pg 66 of Chromebook 2 an unmodified Alpha...) stands 6' 6" and weighs approximately 350lbs and is built like a linebacker or world class body builder. The base Body is 12. Per the rules (same book pg84) REF, MA and Body were increased. Body was maxed at 20. SDP was increased. It doesn't say that this increases size, but I think that's a liberty the GM has to take if need be. What's more scary? Arnold the nerd or Arnold the Terminator? This comes up again later in the story... There's a reason why he is so big. He was C-Swat once upon a time and he needed to be as big as the perps. From the rules on page 107 of the Chrome 3/4 book. He also has the CyberSteroids mod. So in the context of the game he has very large size (we'll call it a 20 bod) and 60 strength. This is why is VERY heavy and VERY strong.

The snickers bar boosterganger... well they didn't bother to stick around to see if the big guy swallowed. (Wow... that sounds bad, but no penalty flag we'll call that field goal good!) Being an Alpha class nutritional content of boostergang members is irrelevent, he just did it because he is batshit crazy and isn't fond of boostergangs. More on that in the 3rd session. He was meant to be an element of chaos.

Robots? I get lazy with my terminology sometimes. I made it a point to call the remotes for the AI, just that. I really wish I had more time to give a description better than John Coffee. It made for a very flat character and it felt cheap and like a crutch for me. The other thing to remember here is that I haven't run a game in years... everyone else was new to Cyberpunk 2020, and I am heavily medicated most of the time. So I have memory lapses and slips. (I had fusion on C6-C7 recently. Vicodin is a close personal friend of mine) One of the reason I ask for comments is a desire to improve. I am not fishing for compliments. The big chrome dude is a Borg... but surely I've kicked that dead horse enough.

As everyone gets more comfortable with the game I'll pull the modifiers in tighter. Alot of the time I am motivated to move the story along rather than bog down in mechanics. I know I need to streamline combat. Good points absolutely.

Luck... I go back and forth on this one. I played with one Ref that allowed a point of luck to either negate a critical failure or reroll a task, or allow 2nd or 3rd action without penalty... that made the game unbalanced. I like the classic use--the idea of declaring it before hand but if I know it's kind of important (that a roll succeed) I am not very consistant in enforcing it. Maybe that makes for a bad Ref but a more interesting session? Style over substance is my default answer to that question. LOL

Handgun vs. Body plated borg... If it's all I have I am gonna empty it and throw it at him. Then I'll insult his momma. Thats just an experience thing... They don't have any Cybernetics yet and little in the way of weapons. It was a whim to liven up a lull in the story. I wasn't going to maim anyone that time around. (going forward however game on!) The borg has joints and other weak points of course. Alphas don't breath but twice a day (I think?)

C-Swat had been coming for a while. They had been tracking the borg for a while. I was messing with the awareness rolls and making them purposefully vague. Did they hear it or not? The Borg's history is explained some in the 3rd session.

No comment on the hacking thing... muhahaha.

The grenade again was something of a mcguffin.

That poor car is about done. It is dealt with more in the 3rd session.

*edit* And oh yea... almost forgot thanks for the replies.

Chris
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#11
Feb 21, 2013
Solid responses. I see where you are coming from, nice that you put some thought into it.

You fed them a modified - HEAVILY boosted - FBC on cybersteroids in their second session? At the literal max STR you can get in-game for an FBC? Oh you bastard. I love it. Did yo also throw on the additional torso plating available at that strength level?

A Crusher 20 gauge SSG isn't a great weapon, but loaded with HEP rounds it can bypass armour no problem. HEP to the spine/neck and it's almost certainly over. 1/2 stun makes no difference at that point.

Luck is a funny one - I prefer to let my PCs do whatever they can with it. They are so fragile as is, they need every edge.

Those people are from Zdorab's game.

The trick with the combat I found is to kind of "eyeball" the modifiers. Raining -visibility -2. Around. Slippery ground, running, trying a vault, -2 or -3..around. Etc. If your players get on you about accuracy, point out it changes a lot, just like the real world, and mostly you don't find out until you try it. They'll get a sense of what is and isn't harder as you play.

You're obviously using full-on cloning..have your players realised the many things that implies?

So if I understand correctly, you're heavily medicated, often have memory lapses or slips, you're well-armed and you run Cyberpunk. How...perfect.
 
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stahimooney

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#12
Feb 21, 2013
Well armed? Goodness no... I have given all of that up and embraced a life of strict pacifism. :cool:
 
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stahimooney

Rookie
#13
Feb 21, 2013
No I didn't mount the power armor plate... I am not a complete sadist.

Good points throughout.

We haven't discussed the implications of cloning. Although that doesn't meant that they aren't plotting in secret. This is of course approved and even encouraged.

I did write story a while back about a techie that a group cloned and used as a disposable resource. At the end of every mission if it wasn't convienent to take him along they'd just cap him themselves. Darkly humorous if you think about it.
 
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Sardukhar

Moderator
#14
Feb 22, 2013
You-must- download and read Eclipse Phase, sir. I insist. It is available for free download from the authors, before knees are jerked, and you can even buy it if you love it. Which I did and do.

It's full of really great trans and post-human ideas, man of which CP2020 lead to naturally. I consider it the very likely sequel to 2020, if 2020 was real.
 
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stahimooney

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#15
Feb 22, 2013
I haven't had time to sit and read but first glances have definitely peaked my interest
 
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Sardukhar

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#16
Feb 22, 2013
As I listened to your Solo explain she has no points in seduction for the nerd, my wife yells from the background, "You don't need any!". She knows us so well.

One of your players doesn't know what a LAW rocket is? How is that even possible? Did you keep him in a box since 1950?

6D6 with AP will do, on average, 3 damage per hit vs SP 25. Sooo..yeah. Remember AP is halved after pen. That's before Toughness mod, too. 1 damage is about it. Per hit. If you roll better than average, it gets better of course.

"You guys look kind of desperate". Wait, he has customers that don't look kind of desperate? And, yeah, he doesn't want to hear that from a cop.

What kind of a Solo thinks about AIs? Tell her to shoot something with her gun.Hand.Face. Gunhandface. Yes.

It's so handy you told them the liquid nitrogen was important. Did you also hold their hands when they crossed the cyber-street? Disgusting. Kill them all now in expiation of your sins.

Firing the first shot generally means you get to fire the last shot. Honestly. Trust me. Start it up! Nothing can go wrong.

"What's initiative" "Isn't that to see who goes first?" I'm gonna put it out there that these guys haven't played a WHOLE lot of PnP. Unless it was Nobilis.

WHY did the MarySueRobot only take one action? Whyyyy? Jump and shoot! It's only -3 to the shot plus whatever negs you gave it for moving. Do your players know about multiple actions? INFORM THEM. Especially the..no, inform all of them. Cop and Solo and Netrunner, all need to know badly.

Also, whip them until they read the books. Solo needs to know the combot, so does Cop AND the law and Netrunner needs to know the most of anyone. Sigh. FLOGGINGS.

As you've noticed, Solos spot things first and go first, nearly all the time. Consider what you want to do about it, because your other PCs are going to notice eventually. Simplest solution is to award them Combat Sense as they survive more and more fights. It's fair and it makes game world sense.

They can railgun from orbit. Rogue AI and I would have a killsat nail them. IF sat position is an issue, they can use a land based railgun and bounce it off the atmosphere. Mass drivers are how the Orbital Palace keeps people in line.

Too many 10s on these dice! Punish the players for their obvious treachery.

I kind of want SOMEONE to get shot! Jared will do.
 
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stahimooney

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#17
Feb 22, 2013
I was having breakfast while reading this. Ritalin, Vitamin Z, a Muscle Relaxer, Vicodin and a Barq's Red Creme Soda.

I LOL'ed at one point and nearly sprayed the nectar of the gawds through my nose. A little warning Man!!!
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#18
Feb 22, 2013
..it's not breakfast if NO FOOD IS INVOLVED.
 
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stahimooney

Rookie
#19
Feb 22, 2013
Barqs Red Creme Soda is LOADED with empty calories. One can is 15% of my recommended Carbohydrate intake. If I put my mind to it I could be done with my carb intake by lunch. :)

Crap... my formatting in my sig didn't stick. Please disregard. No can brain today. I haz teh dumb.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#20
Feb 22, 2013
Or sooner! go to MacDonald's and have more not-food. Save on eating time. That one guy did it and he was fine. Hell, you're already -on- ritalin. And Vicodin. And a...muscle relaxer...wtf? Are you Quasimodo?
 
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