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Crossbows. Yay or nay?

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Crossbows. Yay or nay?

  • I want the crossbow to be usable in combat.

    Votes: 143 32.3%
  • I want the crossbow to be used for hunting only. (deer, hare, etc.)

    Votes: 88 19.9%
  • I don't want a crossbow at all.

    Votes: 120 27.1%
  • Don't care.

    Votes: 92 20.8%

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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#141
Apr 12, 2014
A-Ha, see I knew it!
Boy am I glad to still be alive and well enough to witness this 20 foot retractable chain in Geralt's pants.
(caves are for kids)
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#142
Apr 12, 2014
Kris_teh_pwnz said:
WHAT THE FUCK PPL??? No, I mean seriously WTF? Witchers DO NOT use bows or crossbows. Period. Go to the Batman Arkham City forum and post a topic about using sniper rifles, cuz you know, some enemies may be using flying vehicles so sniper rifle would be just fine.
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Man, in TW2 you can kill people with a fucking broom! I am pretty sure it is not a part of the lore as well. So what? Did the game become worse for it, or did the devs impose broom-fighting on anybody? I don't really see why it is so damn important now, while before, in TW1-2 axes, clubs, brooms and shovels were not.

Enjoy a bit of non-canonical combat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSVpUz6UwJQ&list=PLFDCAE7B93FE5CB08&index=32
 
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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#143
Apr 12, 2014
In my humble opinion.

Why should Geralt have a crossbow?
1. Well he can hunt now... And who hunts with swords?
2. Flying monsters, obviously.
3. A crossbow wouldn't take no time to learn as opposed to a bow.
4. Easier to get cats out of trees.

Conclusion: It's here and probably here to stay. But make it like the throwing knives: completely optional. Not in one case did you have to use them. Bonus: Make an option to hide it like in some rpg's you have the option to hide the helmet while receiving full stats.

Why shouldn't Geralt use a crossbow.
1. Lorebreaking. Sure Cdpr have broken before and will continue too, but this is a bit over the line as they have always prided themselves on sticking to it.
2. Geralt doesn't use a bow, of any kind. Why would he pick one up all of a sudden?
3. Flying monsters. Unless a flying monster has a specific attack what are they going to do other than swoop, drop a rock on our head?Why can't he just use aard to force them to the ground or igni to set the sky ablaze?

Conclusion: Crossbows don't seem to fit with his fighting style in anyway. Is he Geralt Helsing now?

Final conclusion: Pretty much the first conclusion since it's there. Also I would think with it's compact design it might be of Nilfgardian origin.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#144
Apr 12, 2014
Csàszàr said:
In my humble opinion.

4. Easier to get cats out of trees.
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That is just mean. Water hose works perfectly fine.

Csàszàr said:
Also I would think with it's compact design it might be of Nilfgardian origin.
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Nah, it is Ciri's gift brought from 15th century Italy.
 
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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#145
Apr 12, 2014
I smell a reference to Ezio, hm.
 
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Bellator Pius Gratus

Bellator Pius Gratus

Forum veteran
#146
Apr 12, 2014
pedrolago said:
To the people who are using the "if you don't want it don't use it", the"If he didn't shit in the books he can never shit" or the "how can he kill aerial monsters" arguments, allow me to retort, I'll address each argument in order.

1- If the thing is strapped to my damn back all the time, then its being forced on me and if I don't like it I will simply have to live with it, so even if I decide not to use it its still being a part of my character.

2-Please stop making ridiculous comparisons that don't make sense, having a crossbow strapped to his back and climbing or taking a shit are in two vey different levels, one deeply affects the look and feel of the character and the other is just normal stuff every healthy human does(can't believe I actually have to comment this)

3- He is very well capable of killing flying monsters(he killed a manticore in the books, and the whole point that made everyone so impressed was that he did it only with his sword), let us not forget that Witchers are "Exterminators" if he wants to kill a flying monster he finds its nest and kills it there or drives it away, and regarding saskia's fight and ranged monster attacks, you are forgetting he can use the quenn or the helitrope signs, which protect him from most ranged attacks, forcing the monster to come close(in saskia's case: her fire had no effect on me as long as I had quenn up, so she was forced to attack me in CQC, I think the battle with her was one of the most epic, well done, and realistic battles I ever had in video games).

I cannot believe CDPR would be so disrespectful to Sapkowski's character as to make the crossbow a part of monster hunting, I have faith in them and I know that Konrad said many times that they are staying true to the books, so I'm pretty sure they wont do that, my greatest complaint is about having it on my back at all times and the possibility of it being used in combat against normal enemies, because I simply abhor the idea of every fight beginning with a crossbow shot.
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I'll answer in kind, starting with 1: IF the thing is strapped onto Geralt's back, but we can't know for sure really? Is it official? Is it optional? Have the devs said anything in the matter? The game is one year off, anything can happen.

2: Well this wasn't adressed to me was it?

3: You get a REDpoint for this as you make a valid point regarding how Geralt hunt monsters.

But to me this issue...is slowly starting to get out of hand, and somewhat far off. What have the devs really said? And pardon me being frank here, but saying that CDPR doesn't respect Sapkowski's writings...well...did you even say that? If you did, did you mean it?





pedrolago said:
I particularly would vote for it to be strapped to a fire as well, but since I see some people want it, I at least, would be ok with it (like I said a few times) if you could strap it to roach's saddle and use it as a tool for hunting, not as a weapon.

And also if they gave us the fishing minigame it would help the pain go away:lol:
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Now we're talking! I would love to fish in Witcher 3! So a fishing pole strapped to his back is okay then? More than a crossbow? :lol:

Roach's saddle was a good idea, or possibly never to touch or use a crossbow at all may also be an alternative. Seriously, we just don't know anything yet. Well I don't in fact. I'm completely clueless and happy to admit it. A good guess would be that I'm usually the last to read any new articles or previews or to see any interviews, but I've yet to see anyone from CDPR say a single word about this. Have some faith people! They know what they are doing and they are watching!
 
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DragomirG

Senior user
#147
Apr 12, 2014
A crossbow is a modern weapon. I think it was invented ~1500s. We are not there yet, don't make this like in Fable - fable 1 was a great game but fable 2 and modern fable 3 killed the game. Also I can't stand the look of a crossbow because it always reminds me of that dwarf from Dragon Age.
 
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ztki

Senior user
#148
Apr 12, 2014
Ragnarous said:
A crossbow is a modern weapon. I think it was invented ~1500s.
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Well,crossbows already appeared in TW2
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#149
Apr 12, 2014
No crossbows are pretty ancient, way before 1500s
 
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Kris_teh_pwnz

Senior user
#150
Apr 12, 2014
Except that brooms and shovels are a real pain if you want to play on anything higher than Normal difficulty setting. My point is: do not break the lore for Christ sake, stticking to the lore is what made this game series so famous and successful. I don't mind an option for Geralt to fight with a huge ass dildo tbh, as long as it is just an optional choice and not an essential part of gameplay.
 
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TemerianGirl

TemerianGirl

Mentor
#151
Apr 12, 2014
Ragnarous said:
A crossbow is a modern weapon. I think it was invented ~1500s. We are not there yet, don't make this like in Fable - fable 1 was a great game but fable 2 and modern fable 3 killed the game. Also I can't stand the look of a crossbow because it always reminds me of that dwarf from Dragon Age.
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From the "Tower of Swallow"

A third shot at him with a Gabriel. A miniature crossbow invented and built by Gabriel, a
craftsman in Verden. He pioneered the slogan, ‘Protect yourself from banditry and violence’,
said the advertisement. ‘The law is helpless and powerless. Protect yourself! Do not leave home without a handy Gabriel brand crossbow. Gabriel is your guardian angel, Gabriel will
protect you and your loved ones from bandits,’
The demand had surpassed all expectations and the sale had achieved a true record. Soon
all bandits wore a Gabriel when assaulting someone.
Geralt was a witcher and was able to dodge the arrow. However he had forgotten about
the pain in his knee. The dodge was delayed by an inch and the blade-shaped tip tore his ear.
The pain blinded him, but only for a moment. The bandit did not have time to tighten the
crossbow and defend himself. Geralt, full of rage, cut of his hands and then spilled his guts
with Sihil.
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Lieste

Ex-moderator
#152
Apr 12, 2014
Crossbow quarrels dating to C6 BCE have been found. This is a wee bit earlier than C15 CE... if 21 centuries is enough to count as a wee bit...

This date is valid for Eastern states, with European dates ranging from C5 BCE.

From C12 CE the crossbow had nearly eliminated hand bows in standing European armies (with the notable exception of the English and Welsh, with their legally mandated practise of the Warbow).
 
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DragomirG

Senior user
#153
Apr 12, 2014
Ok. Point taken. I am still against crossbows :D
 
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Egor_L

Senior user
#154
Apr 12, 2014
Hi! Can somebody give the link on the statement where CDPR confirm use of crossbow?
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#155
Apr 12, 2014
EgorStilet said:
Hi! Can somebody give the link on the statement where CDPR confirm use of crossbow?
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There is none. It was spotted in this picture


From this video:
 
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Egor_L

Senior user
#156
Apr 12, 2014
Thank you!=)
 
Sagitarii

Sagitarii

Mentor
#157
Apr 12, 2014
sidspyker said:
No crossbows are pretty ancient, way before 1500s
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They were invented about 5th-4th century BC (or even earlier) by the Chinese , to clarify.
 
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DragomirG

Senior user
#158
Apr 12, 2014
Sagitarii said:
They were invented about 5th-4th century BC (or even earlier) by the Chinese , to clarify.
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braindancer12

Rookie
#159
Apr 12, 2014
sidspyker said:
There is none. It was spotted in this picture


From this video:
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thanks for posting
 
Bellator Pius Gratus

Bellator Pius Gratus

Forum veteran
#160
Apr 12, 2014
EgorStilet said:
Hi! Can somebody give the link on the statement where CDPR confirm use of crossbow?
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There hasn't been any word, just as @sidspyker said. Hence the opinion skirmishes on the thread. Many in favour of crossbow and many against its implementation in Witcher 3. But as the devs haven't said anything official, I have more than once tried to remind my fellow witchers that we can't know anything for sure, or take it for granted until CDPR adress the matter. The devs are watching closely though, so voice your opinion if you haven't already. :lol:
 
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