I've checked out Signal Ops. There's not much info on the game but it looks like an interesting title.
I really don't know what to do. I am a young player so I never played one of these games. I really like RPGs (my favourite are Skyrim, The Witcher and Dragon Age). I know this collection is the best of the past but I don't know if I will enjoy it now... What should I do?
Wish I'd pulled the trigger. Trying to get all these titles now (I was only thinking 7 out of 10 of them) would be $150 or in that neighborhood. Oh well. I was in the same predicament Fight except I'm old enough to have played these. I'm just not comfortable with cRpgs excepting the Witcher games for which I learned to overcome my perceived deficits. I've always been a console guy. The Kickstarter RPGs made me want to change.
What's the best entry point when it comes to a game like Wasteland 2. I'm assuming PS:T will prepare me for Numenera. And what would help for Project Eternity. I appreciate any guidance.
What's the best entry point when it comes to a game like Wasteland 2. I'm assuming PS:T will prepare me for Numenera. And what would help for Project Eternity. I appreciate any guidance.
Fight4Glory96 said:
Depends. Do you want to have your mind blown away, not by graphics but by narrative, writing, story, interactivity and, just for the sake of using elevated words, EPIC AWESOMENESS? If you can get past the visuals (which are actually good, but from a different generation) and the elaborate game rules, then you're in for some of the best computer gaming experiences ever.
I'd recommend trying out Baldur's Gate II if you're into medieval fantasy, Icewind Dale II if you're into more combat than story (although Icewind Dale's story is stronger than Skyrim's), and Planescape: Torment if you feel like playing an interactive book where (almost) everything you do matters.
Fight4Glory96 said:
Wasteland 2 is the sequel to (duh!) Wasteland, which led to the creation of Fallout. So the best entry point for Wasteland 2 apart from the obvious Wasteland which might be just a bit too old for many people, are the original Fallouts. Fallout 1 & 2 are available on GOG.com.
PS:T will give you an idea of what to expect in Torment: Tides of Numenera. I mean strong character development that affects your actions, interactions and dialogue lines, strong character and environmental reactivity, strong narrative and story-telling, choice and consequence, etc.
Project Eternity is essentially the spiritual successor to the Infinity Engine games, i.e. Baldur's Gate I & II, Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale I & II. So play them all. Especially play the Baldur's Gate saga and Planescape: Torment. If you don't have enough time to play the first BG, then skip to the second which is better in every way.
Learn to appreciate the detail in these games. They are wonderful masterpieces, filled with tons of significant detail. These games will blow away all past and future console RPG's in all the areas that matter: narrative, choice and consequence, decision making, problem solving, adventuring, etc.
The sale is over, but should another come along, defiantly go for it. Honestly, I'd highly recommend trying one of them out now at full price (9.99 is a steal for the quality). I'm also a young player, but after starting Planescape this weekend, I can honestly say, without fear of blowing hot air or muddling up my opinion with sensationalism, upon completion it will (unless something unexpected and horrible happens) be the best game I have ever played along side the witcher.
I'm so blown away by the quality of the dialogue; you can completely immerse yourself in the world and have meaningful and informative conversations. If there is better quest design in other games, PLEASE tell me because not even the witcher is this good here. I explore fascinating areas, meeting new and interesting people, discovering new places and seeing all sorts of things. When a quest comes around, you're completely on your own to complete it. Then, a light bulb will set off. Ah ha! You remember a clue, a starting point or piece together the solution on the spot. Man! What satisfaction!
A large reason I started playing video games in the first place was to have that satisfying and fun experience of role playing in a pen and paper game or the adventure found in books. Planescape is as close as I've come. Sure, the graphics look a little pixely and grainy, but it looks beautiful. More important, the game play and interactions are gorgeous.
I played Deus Ex: Human Revolution Prior to this. A very fun game with a story and setting I enjoyed. Howevery, it feels barren and empty in comparison.
Actually that's a common misconception due to the numerous references to Gog in the bible occurring in the fire & brimstone books, so guilt by association really, fact is no one really knows what the word that is referenced to "Gog" really means, it's been lost.slimgrin said:
Oh wait, you mean good old games... yeah they are evil incarnate... where's me flaming torch & pitchfork!
$22 for all those classics? Am I reading that right?
I'd recommend trying the games in reverse chronological order, or at least beginning with the Temple of Elemental Evil (I forget how good the story was here, but the gameplay was excellent and has lots of the modern stuff you see in Dragon Age etc).slimgrin said:
slimgrin said:
You can basically split that game bundle into these groups by similarity in tech, rules, level of storytelling & gameplay:
Isometric no frills PnP classics:
Baldur's Gate 2 Complete
Baldur`s Gate: The Original Saga
Icewind Dale 2 Complete
Icewind Dale Complete
Planescape: Torment
3D cRpg goodness:
Neverwinter Nights 2: Complete
Neverwinter Nights: Diamond Edition
Temple of Elemental Evil, The
Dross, trash, torgos executive powder:
Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone
Dungeons & Dragons: Dragonshard
I lost my whole reply which was more in-depth.
Thank you both for the concise and enthusiastic advice. It sounds like Wasteland/Fallout 2 (if I can't find where to get WL), BG2 and PS:T are where I should start. The KS games and Pandora's Tower for the Wii coming stateside prohibit a greater jump into the deep end. When I have more scratch, I'm going to keep building.
Thank you both for the concise and enthusiastic advice. It sounds like Wasteland/Fallout 2 (if I can't find where to get WL), BG2 and PS:T are where I should start. The KS games and Pandora's Tower for the Wii coming stateside prohibit a greater jump into the deep end. When I have more scratch, I'm going to keep building.
If possible, I think this thread should be a mainstay in the Community section. While there are reviews posted by consumers at the page of each game, there's a tight-knit community here where there are a bushel of well-known contributors with a wide exposure to all PC/Mac/Linux games whose opinions hold more weight around here ostensibly. Questions can be asked of the people who know the know, with the ability to have those answers elaborated upon with some reliable speed and CDPR can have that many more people buy titles where reticence would have ruled. And if no-one chimes in for a particular cycle, at least the general awareness can be spread of whatever is on offer with the initial informative post for each sale and a prospective customer is no worse off than he or she would be without the grapevine.
As Glaroug said, FO and FO2 are in the sale called "Immortal Interplay Classics. Each title is 50% off and are as follows with NA price, genre and comm. rating on GOG.
As Glaroug said, FO and FO2 are in the sale called "Immortal Interplay Classics. Each title is 50% off and are as follows with NA price, genre and comm. rating on GOG.
Its en excellent idea and the info you posted is pretty awesome, especially for guys like me who had no idea what they were save for Fallout. I'll sit this sale out though, as the last sale will keep me busy for many days to come. Haha, Redneck Rampage. Where I come from that's called across the street.
Heh yeah that title stood out. Well for the last sale, had I taken advantage I would have avoided The Temple of Elemental Evil. Had zero name recognition before Kudos classed it with the NWN titles to give me some idea of what it was like. And Volsung seems to be everywhere and erudite. We shall see.
Maybe the EW Jim titles are worth giving another spin.
At the very least it saves thirty clicks for everyone lol.
Maybe the EW Jim titles are worth giving another spin.
At the very least it saves thirty clicks for everyone lol.
You took the time to transcribe that game list? Wow...
Not much to say. Get'em!
Played Descent II a lot when I was younger. It's pretty cool and exciting but uses non 3D-accelerated polygons with pixelated textures that might drive a few away. Still, very entertaining dogfighting spaceship action/simulation game with lots of maneuvering and shooting. Thanks to games like these and Terminal Velocity an entire generation rewired their brain to use UP to look DOWN. Now I play all shooters and even third-person action games with inverted Y axis.
One of the few (good) sidescrolling platformers for the PC. Very quirky and weird and entertaining.
Haven't played it yet, but I remember I almost bought it when it came out. Looks interesting: an alternative history setting set sometime near the renaissance, with a steampunk air if I am not mistaken.
Still have the CD jewel case laying around somewhere. Probably lost the manuals. Played the hell out of it in DOS back in the day. It is very exciting.
And that's all the help I can give.
Calrabjohns said:
Not much to say. Get'em!
Calrabjohns said:
Played Descent II a lot when I was younger. It's pretty cool and exciting but uses non 3D-accelerated polygons with pixelated textures that might drive a few away. Still, very entertaining dogfighting spaceship action/simulation game with lots of maneuvering and shooting. Thanks to games like these and Terminal Velocity an entire generation rewired their brain to use UP to look DOWN. Now I play all shooters and even third-person action games with inverted Y axis.
Calrabjohns said:
One of the few (good) sidescrolling platformers for the PC. Very quirky and weird and entertaining.
Calrabjohns said:
Haven't played it yet, but I remember I almost bought it when it came out. Looks interesting: an alternative history setting set sometime near the renaissance, with a steampunk air if I am not mistaken.
Calrabjohns said:
Still have the CD jewel case laying around somewhere. Probably lost the manuals. Played the hell out of it in DOS back in the day. It is very exciting.
And that's all the help I can give.
I was a lurker. I'd like to be more active and helpful. Unfortunately the only thing I could do was potentially cut down on drudgery for others in this case.
Just purchased the FOs. The Descent titles sound pretty cool. It's a genre I'm unfamiliar with, the closest thing I can think of that I played back in the day was Crimson Skies for either the original XBox or as a launch title for 360. Can't remember for the life of me. So I can blame these games for inverted controls! Good to know
Lionheart sounds funky enough to give a spin too.
Thanks a lot man.
Just purchased the FOs. The Descent titles sound pretty cool. It's a genre I'm unfamiliar with, the closest thing I can think of that I played back in the day was Crimson Skies for either the original XBox or as a launch title for 360. Can't remember for the life of me. So I can blame these games for inverted controls! Good to know
Lionheart sounds funky enough to give a spin too.
Thanks a lot man.
Whoever snapped the Lionheart screenshots for GOG is a Witcher fan, check out the name of the player character in them