Cyberpunk 2: Let the Game Break

[Cyberdude]

We need to get back to allowing players to fail quests and break their save through common sense mistakes and player agency.

The "gamey" trend of protecting the player from bad or conscious decisions has degraded the gaming experience and immersion for years now.

Given that a player can die and have to reload a save I should be allowed to fail a quest perhaps by mistake or unintended consequences and equally resort to a prior save - IF I WANT TO.

Restore consequences, freedom and player agency. Alllow bad things to happen. Real stakes.

If I choose to fail a dialog roll or decide an NPC annoys me and I shoot them in a diner and fail all their missions or content then LET ME. If it turns out I don't like the consequences I can reload a save. No different than dying. Or changing my build.

We need a world that doesn't feel like a puppet show. No unkillable NPCs. No script blocking actions that otherwise would make sense (e.g. auto locking doors for scripting battles etc).

Let the world be itself.
Let the world breathe.
Let the player feel regrets. Its not a game without that.

Thank you!

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Did you not created the excat same thread not long ago?

Cyberpunk 2: Let the Game Break

We need to get back to the days where a game LET YOU break missions by either killing NPC's or destroying items or dropping quest items etc. Since then, games have introduced all kinds of NANNIES. Tell you exactly where to go., who to talk to. in the dialog it shows you exactly what options to...

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[devivre]

Threads merged, there’s really no point in opening another thread with the same topic.

 

[rebbit323]

We need to get back to allowing players to fail quests and break their save through common sense mistakes and player agency.

The "gamey" trend of protecting the player from bad or conscious decisions has degraded the gaming experience and immersion for years now.

Given that a player can die and have to reload a save I should be allowed to fail a quest perhaps by mistake or unintended consequences and equally resort to a prior save - IF I WANT TO.

Restore consequences, freedom and player agency. Alllow bad things to happen. Real stakes.

If I choose to fail a dialog roll or decide an NPC annoys me and I shoot them in a diner and fail all their missions or content then LET ME. If it turns out I don't like the consequences I can reload a save. No different than dying. Or changing my build.

We need a world that doesn't feel like a puppet show. No unkillable NPCs. No script blocking actions that otherwise would make sense (e.g. auto locking doors for scripting battles etc).

Let the world be itself.
Let the world breathe.
Let the player feel regrets. Its not a game without that.

Nobody really expected every sequel to be perfect, but letting a game break as much as some posts here describe just makes the conversation so wild. Sometimes when I need a break from all these endless bugs and hotfix chaos I turn to stuff that actually runs clean, like Pinup Nigeria where menus and features just behave the way you expect them to. That contrast really highlights how frustrating it feels when stuff doesn’t work like it should.

Agree!