Cyberpunk 2077 — Our Commitment to Quality

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Maybe - I am in Australia and we do have some of the strongest consumer rights laws.

But regional law and consumer rights is always weird - something like Steam and GOG operates in so many countries with different laws - it must be mad to try and keep track of it all.
That's why I kinda envy the ozzies, but the games are priced higher there. Not so sure about the regional stuffs. I just know research before I buy something. I can say CP is worth the money because I have better regional price than some other scams I bought last year.
 
To be fair the anonymous complaints from employees say that CDPR pays QA minimum wage, so it's very possible that their employees don't give a crap about quality as a result. If I was paid minimum wage I would put in minimum effort. So it's very possible that CDPR has bad QA. Isn't polands minimum wage around $5 or something?
Poland has a totally different cost of living. The price of my house would get me 4 in Poland. I highly doubt that devs are on 5 dollars and hour. Do you think the news sites that have been haunting them about heavy work loads would not be all over that??
 
In that case, I sincerely hope that these promises will be delivered, found myself waiting for the next patch to see what it brings along. Though for the sake of the developers, don't put them through crunch again like the last 1 and a half years leading up to the release.
 
That's good for you that they break their own TnC to accept your refund. Can be your government law or something. I remember someone got a refund on Steam, not everyone.
I have personally gotten refunds from steam even after going over the play time, all I had to say was "Australian consumer law trumps any and all of your policies" and they treated me completely differently. It's sad that so many other countries don't value their people and let them get taken advantage of.
 
I guess that depends on how much you enjoyed the game up to that point. For example, I recently finished GTA V and hated the ending, but I don't think that washes away all good times I had with the game. One writer might pour their heart and soul into one particular section of the game, while another might be responsible for the ending. At some point, you have to be able to disconnect the two. I love Mass Effect 1 and 2, for example, which is why Mass Effect 3 is basically non-existent in my memory. I don't even consider it canon.

For me endings make or break what preceded them. In this case, they broke it. GTA 5 ending was just... there. Lackluster.
But I am right there with you. ME3 who? ^^

And we should at least be so fair to admit that the main CP77 story isn't all that original.
CP77s main story is almost a carbon copy of the Sidestory of Magica Despell and Lena in the Duck Tales Reboot.

And other shows like Star Trek, Stargate (especially stargate!), etc.
 
Ah cool so what is he saying then as you have the inside scoop? Do tell us mere mortals some of whom be your next boss. we are all ears as to what exactly this less than half hearted apology can mean? it was just a lucky coincidence that no reviews got out about performance on ps4. Gotcha.

Your current rhetoric is not conducive to dialogue - between you and I, you and anyone, and certainly not you, I and CD Projekt.

He specifically was talking about issues not being revealed in testing, if you've ever worked in IT - then you know how truthful that statement is and probably have more than one or two cringe memories where something left the testing environment and broke everything.

That's the nature of software development. It's even worse for games development - because for most other software testing, it only goes to live environments in the thousands - not the millions.

He was not 'blaming' QA testers. If you want to read more than that into it - then go ahead - but if you want to engage in further dialgoue - take it down a notch.
 
You want to be disappointed, fine.

...but this is just asking for a mud slinging match and doesn't offer anything to CD Projekt, these forums, or other gamers who are here.
IF you take this sentence out of context, sure...it may seem that way. I'm not picking a fight, I'm merely stating the fact that I personally am disappointed with the apparent direction CDPR is taking the game, which is: "We will fix all the bugs, and then pretend the game is a masterpiece that we are proud of." If you read my WHOLE post, you can extract feedback directed at any official who takes the time to go through this thread AND to gamers, telling officials that they ignored the elephant in the room and telling gamers to look at KCD and draw their conclusions :)
 
I also see a lot of people being unreasonably accepting of the state the game was released in and defending things that should not be defended.
Sure, and as soon as they will be the majority, and start repeating the same thing in every topic, I will tell them the same. However at the moment, that is not the case.
 
For me endings make or break what preceded them. In this case, they broke it. GTA 5 ending was just... there. Lackluster.
But I am right there with you. ME3 who? ^^

And we should at least be so fair to admit that the main CP77 story isn't all that original.
CP77s main story is almost a carbon copy of the Sidestory of Magica Despell and Lena in the Duck Tales Reboot.

Oh, I don't disagree in that sense, I personally don't care much about CP77's story at all. I don't even think it's the fault of the plot, I just never found V likable and never connected with him/her on any level and even cringed at some of the male VA delivery. I know some people love the writing in the game, but I feel it's a lot worse than Witcher in that sense - both in making the protagonist less sympathetic and in having less nuanced options for response. Then again, I also hated Ciri, and I know a lot of people loved her, so it's just up to personal taste to a certain extent. Though I have never heard of anyone disliking Geralt.
 
That's why I kinda envy the ozzies, but the games are priced higher there. Not so sure about the regional stuffs. I just know research before I buy something. I can say CP is worth the money because I have better regional price than some other scams I bought last year.
It's not too bad, most games are priced similarly to the US, $60 in the US is around $90 here so it's not really that bad as far as pricing goes. What I find best about it though is the complete change in attitude when asking for a refund and mentioning you are from Australia. It is night and day and I feel so bad for people with anti consumer laws like the US, I would likely lose my s#!t dealing with customer service over there.
 
Thanks a lot for releasing this addicting game for us guys <3

I cant remember when last time I had such great feeling playing the game, enjoying exploring every corner of the game, enjoying the great story, having fun in gigs and side missions which is actually very interesting to do because they all unique in their own way

Conversations are really great too and of course the voice acting, so many characters have such great personality and their facial action is so fitted to the dialogues

Also been enjoying the atmosphere of the game, parkouring around the roofs,
always making sure to drive around the map to enjoy the charm of night city and capture tons of beautiful moments/screenshots of the beautiful night city

I super appreciate all your effort and work you doing all those years

Would be awesome to add some options into game like actually sitting down and having animation how you eating drinking at the bars or restaurant and sort of such stuff because those small details makes game lovely
 
I have been playing on XBOX One since release date and have encountered very few bugs or glitches so far - the odd invisible weapon and raining cars once or twice. I have only had to restart the game once.

I played R Talsorian's Cyberpunk 2020 from the day it was released and love the work that you have done in bringing this world to my living room - thank you and keep up the good work!
 
I have personally gotten refunds from steam even after going over the play time, all I had to say was "Australian consumer law trumps any and all of your policies" and they treated me completely differently. It's sad that so many other countries don't value their people and let them get taken advantage of.
There are many bad salesman out there spatting nonsense, guess I have to telI them I am from Australia to make a honest out of them.
 
IF you take this sentence out of context, sure...it may seem that way. I'm not picking a fight, I'm merely stating the fact that I personally am disappointed with the apparent direction CDPR is taking the game, which is: "We will fix all the bugs, and then pretend the game is a masterpiece that we are proud of." If you read my WHOLE post, you can extract feedback directed at any official who takes the time to go through this thread AND to gamers, telling officials that they ignored the elephant in the room and telling gamers to look at KCD and draw their conclusions :)

You're allowed to not like the game. You're allowed to take issue with it, go nuts. I've got more than a few of my own issues with it.

...but implying people are "..shutting off their brains..." for enjoying the game is not something you should do. You can, but you shouldn't. It just opens up the forums to mud slinging on who enjoys what sort of games and leads to personal attacks. Best to steer clear of those totally.
 
Your current rhetoric is not conducive to dialogue - between you and I, you and anyone, and certainly not you, I and CD Projekt.

He specifically was talking about issues not being revealed in testing, if you've ever worked in IT - then you know how truthful that statement is and probably have more than one or two cringe memories where something left the testing environment and broke everything.

That's the nature of software development. It's even worse for games development - because for most other software testing, it only goes to live environments in the thousands - not the millions.

He was not 'blaming' QA testers. If you want to read more than that into it - then go ahead - but if you want to engage in further dialgoue - take it down a notch.

I am not the one talking or speaking on behalf of you, CDPR or anyone else. That is not dialogue, your simp,le attempt to be condescending was noted and stepped on.
 
Oh, I don't disagree in that sense, I personally don't care much about CP77's story at all. I don't even think it's the fault of the plot, I just never found V likable and never connected with him/her on any level and even cringed at some of the male VA delivery. I know some people love the writing in the game, but I feel it's a lot worse than Witcher in that sense - both in making the protagonist less sympathetic and in having less nuanced options for response. Then again, I also hated Ciri, and I know a lot of people loved her, so it's just up to personal taste to a certain extent. Though I have never heard of anyone disliking Geralt.

You're of course right it comes down to personal taste.
But, you now have heard of one ^^
I really like V, can't stand Geralt. So much so I never touched a single Witcher game after playing the first 2 hrs of the first one.
 
Sure, and as soon as they will be the majority, and start repeating the same thing in every topic, I will tell them the same. However at the moment, that is not the case.
Personally if I feel as though if it is legitimate criticism it's fine, if it's legitimate praise it's fine, if it is an unfair attack it is not fine, if it defends the indefensible it is not fine. Popular opinion or prominence has nothing to do with it.
 
Hello! I really love your games with great pleasure playing Cyberpunk on the computer. personally, I have not encountered all these problems and bugs about which everyone is yelling around, I had only one funny bug with Johnny's cigarette (it stuck in space with his hand) and a couple of times I got stuck in textures ... in general, it's okay and nothing critical. other games had worse bugs and much more frequent bugs. that's why it hurts me to hear on the Internet all that negativity about cyberpunk, about your company and the fact that СDproject is threatened with a lawsuit, etc. I am terribly hurt for you and scared, because the game came out cool, a lot of plot, many interesting quests, many side quests and a cool, well-developed game world! I have great pleasure in exploring the world of night city, I look forward to DLС and I want to wish the rest of the players, those who behave toxicly on the Internet and are just waiting for the opportunity to shout on YouTube about the shortcomings of the game, first think about what your work and time are worth, and how many problems come out in other games, and they are not fixed, while you are trying for us, taking responsibility for yourself and feel sorry. You are wonderful game developers and creators, I love your Witcher, GWENT, and thronebreaker series. and now cyberpunk too. Thank you for the new game and I sincerely wish you strength and health to cope with this streak of tests and not lose yourself and your fire that you put into games. I love you, CDProject, and really root for you!
your loyal fan
 
Poland has a totally different cost of living. The price of my house would get me 4 in Poland. I highly doubt that devs are on 5 dollars and hour. Do you think the news sites that have been haunting them about heavy work loads would not be all over that??
There were news sites on it, problem is it's anonymous so most of it didn't get traction except in 2017. Heck someone else just recently came out last year and said they were paid $430/month for facial animations. I can tell you if CDPR was paying employees fairly they wouldn't be known for having massive turnovers.



 
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