There you go.. LIKE I SAID it is gonna be the same game IF they take their story out because it doesnt matter.
You were replying to my comment about the story not about what i said to the other guy. BUT it doesnt matter. Now go play cyberpunk.
You were replying to my comment about the story not about what i said to the other guy. BUT it doesnt matter. Now go play cyberpunk.
I deliberately broke the game to get out of Watson without Johnny rammed into my skull. It's not until you're in that circumstance that you really see it:
It's not a truly open world game.
Open worlds don't need the game's main quest to roleplay in even the most basic manner. This world literally DEPENDS on it for everything. Why do I need Johnny in my head to buy a car? Or get a fixer gig? Or an NCPD alert? I'll tell you why:
Because I believe that one particular rumor is ABSOLUTELY TRUE. This game's main story was initially a side quest.
And it shows. You could literally pull it out of the game, reassemble it without all the "snarky comments" that infect the side jobs and gigs it has absolutely no inherent connection to, and complete it just as meaningfully as a 2-3 hour side-story quest.
If you analyze every aspect of it's implementation, you can spot the points at which pieces of it were expanded for dialogue and reinserted into the game. And at many of those SAME points, you can see why decisions to "wall off" other content. They had to be made to mask it.
CDPR is free to "debunk" this specific rumor at any time. But I won't hold my breath.
It's not a truly open world game.
Open worlds don't need the game's main quest to roleplay in even the most basic manner. This world literally DEPENDS on it for everything. Why do I need Johnny in my head to buy a car? Or get a fixer gig? Or an NCPD alert? I'll tell you why:
Because I believe that one particular rumor is ABSOLUTELY TRUE. This game's main story was initially a side quest.
And it shows. You could literally pull it out of the game, reassemble it without all the "snarky comments" that infect the side jobs and gigs it has absolutely no inherent connection to, and complete it just as meaningfully as a 2-3 hour side-story quest.
If you analyze every aspect of it's implementation, you can spot the points at which pieces of it were expanded for dialogue and reinserted into the game. And at many of those SAME points, you can see why decisions to "wall off" other content. They had to be made to mask it.
CDPR is free to "debunk" this specific rumor at any time. But I won't hold my breath.
Listen bro I'm not about to argue with you, but I was only replying to your comment because you were trying to downplay the guy saying he had a flawless time with the game by bringing up some whataboutisms. "What about if they took out the story? Then the game would be this or that". You're right, if they took out the story, the game would be bad. Congratulations man
Which still doesn't make sense for the reason I explained. What you consider it to be doesn't change a whole lot, CDPR straight up announced that they're gonna release two patches in the upcoming months, so, yeah, before they do, the state of the game is the same as the last time they worked on it...Thank you, captain Obvious.
Two main issues I have is the AI and how the game engine renders vehicle density in remote areas. A line of headlights in the distance, but as you approach they completely disappear. Having every npc not specifically codes for a reaction to cower is pretty immersion breaking imo.
I just want a HARD challenging game where no NPC can one shot me nor I can one shot any NPC. Fair difficulty, you know. Witcher 3 on Death March is 10x better balanced while more enjoyable.
They could at least expect that the game would run on their consoles.
In Xbox, several features and mechanics are still broken.
Sadly, it would take thousands of development hours to get to that point, because the combat AI, armor, cybernetics, and perk systems are all broken to the point that I'm not confident they could even strike a reasonable balance between a netrunner build and a melee build. And that's before you factor in the many other possible build combinations.
It's all just too broken and out of balance against itself.
iam not so sure...
i liked the games.. but they are still buggy like hell and needed patches from the community to get fixed
also thy looked already old when they where released
I mean the genre. They fulfilled the genre as RPG almost perfectly. You start in an open world and are free to do WHATEVER you want. Skill yourself how you like to be. Choices do actually matter in that game. You can align with different parties. You can actually betray/steal from people. (We couldnt even do that here, when Evelyn gave us the 50/50 offer)
Yes they were buggy and of course graphics are not the best, but thats not what it is about now. Its about RPG.
erm.. you sure?
played it a long time ago.. so iam not 100% sure...
but if i rememer correctly you had a starting pint, and could only move a few steps away bevor you got killed by something (mostly boars)...
you kinda had to do the stuff in the city befor you could move on
and cyberpunk related...
who the hell would you join up with?
scavangers? yuck
Malestrom? not enouth cyberware
Moxys? your not a whore
voodooboys? your not one of them
Tigres? you not chineese
Arasaka or Militech? your a soldier of fortune and like silverhand said, everyone hates corpos
6th street and Valentinos would be the only one available
in my opinion there is no gang available to join, because you just wouldnt, it would block all work from other gangs
played it a long time ago.. so iam not 100% sure...
but if i rememer correctly you had a starting pint, and could only move a few steps away bevor you got killed by something (mostly boars)...
you kinda had to do the stuff in the city befor you could move on
and cyberpunk related...
who the hell would you join up with?
scavangers? yuck
Malestrom? not enouth cyberware
Moxys? your not a whore
voodooboys? your not one of them
Tigres? you not chineese
Arasaka or Militech? your a soldier of fortune and like silverhand said, everyone hates corpos
6th street and Valentinos would be the only one available
in my opinion there is no gang available to join, because you just wouldnt, it would block all work from other gangs
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They definitely dun goofed talking about the AI and NPC cycles in the 2018 trailer.
As someone who doesn't care about shooting cops and getting into fist fights with random NPCs walking down the street though, the lack of NPC AI doesn't take away from the most excellent time I'm having exploring the nooks and crannies of the world. Finding new ways to complete side quests and gigs, uncovering lore etc.
Again, I'm sorry that this makes your experience is shit, I am. I hope they do something with it - because it's clear that interactivity with the open world is something people really want and is a missed opportunity for them.
...but again, it just doesn't affect the rest of the game - and if you want me to share my version, then my version is playing the game where it treats the open world filler as filler - and goes straight to where the guts of the game actually are.
Gothic 3 did it good. You started in front of the village, which you had to clear from the orcs. Then you could just roam the world freely. ( I mean, you didnt even had to kill the orcs and could have just left and roamed through the world as it pleases you, but i guess you had to at least get the main mission from clearing that village.)
yeah.. but the boar around the next cornor killd you... those where the most dangerous enemys in Gothic..
dont get me wrong, i did like Gothic a lot... 1-3 others where meh
but thye whre a mess
Ahh Gothic 3.
I once met a cave full of strangers indifferent to me, so I started turning their roast over the fire and left.
Thought it would make us friends.
Hours my character turned that roast.
Was all for nought
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Honestly though I love the Gothic series - only real flaw with that series was the dialogue and voice work always got a bit lost in translation.
But this is exactly what Gothic 3 managed to do. You were an outsider, who was able to work for all parties without joining them. You could do quest for all sorts of factions without being part of them, but in the end, you had to choose one faction to end the game. (I think you had even the option to end the game by yourself and not aligning with anyone by killing the leaders of the factions and getting their holy items. So you had even this as option)
The difference is that W3 had WAY more social interaction in the world. Main-, Sidecast, many, many Questgivers, NPCs, intelligent monsters. The consequence: massive Feedback about the Person "Geralt of Riva" as the Role in the game.
KCD is a good example, too. Building up your skills is not so simple, combat has a learningcurve, you've to eat and sleep, people reacts if you're neat or not and if someone beats your helmet you will see stars = immersion. Henry, Son of the blacksmith is your Role, climbing up the social ladder. And they make First Person work in a RPG btw.
And RDR2: I'm Arthur the Cowboy. Linear story, of course, but hey, Me and my horse Mary Beth, packing our stuff, going hunting and the Open World has much to offer and explore.
And if I get over it, that I preorderd CP2077, I will buy BG3: less action, much D&D.
All have different focus, the one more Action, the other more RPG. I didn't find a focus in CP2077, I've to admit.