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Suhiira

Suhiira

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#2,021
Aug 5, 2014
Not that I'm personally into bowling but what's wrong with your character taking a night off to do so with their cousin? I'd say something as simple of this adds to the illusion of "real world" in a game, not everything revolves around "Mission".
 
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Poet_and_Gentleman.598

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#2,022
Aug 5, 2014
Because It's boring and you can go bowling in real life instead.
 
kanonite

kanonite

Senior user
#2,023
Aug 5, 2014
suhiir said:
Not that I'm personally into bowling but what's wrong with your character taking a night off to do so with their cousin? I'd say something as simple of this adds to the illusion of "real world" in a game, not everything revolves around "Mission".
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Why do those Corporate Dead things when you can do edgerunner entertainment? Be it partaking in or observing arena kill-sports, engaging in combat dancing or swapping murder-based black market braindances with your crew.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#2,024
Aug 5, 2014
kanonite said:
Why do those Corporate Dead things when you can do edgerunner entertainment? Be it partaking in or observing arena kill-sports, engaging in combat dancing or swapping murder-based black market braindances with your crew.
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Contrast. A little normal helps bring out the 'Punk.
 
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Frankensteel

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#2,025
Aug 9, 2014
:huh:

Sardukhar said:
By the Holy MaxMike and his Angels of the Perpetual Minigun.

Genius.

We need BIGGER FUCKING GUNS.
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Not mine, i just copied the add for DDI Prayer device (Chromebook 2 i think), as Maxmike says in "Hey, listen up you scerewhead" sourcebook : "only copy the best authors"
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#2,026
Aug 9, 2014
Frankensteel said:
:huh:

Not mine, i just copied the add for DDI Prayer device (Chromebook 2 i think), as Maxmike says in "Hey, listen up you scerewhead" sourcebook : "only copy the best authors"
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Well, excellent choice either way.
 
kanonite

kanonite

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#2,027
Aug 11, 2014
Automatization could very easily explain the insane unemployment rate.

Machines replacing a large chunk of human workers on account of not needing to eat, rest or get payed.
In turn leaving a lot of hungry people on the streets, and an even richer corp elite.
 
Suhiira

Suhiira

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#2,028
Aug 11, 2014
kanonite said:
Automatization could very easily explain the insane unemployment rate.

Machines replacing a large chunk of human workers on account of not needing to eat, rest or get payed.
In turn leaving a lot of hungry people on the streets, and an even richer corp elite.
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Machines can replace some manual labor workers, but unless CP2077 assumes human compatible AI it's not going to cause a huge reduction in human employment.
 
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Harthwain

Harthwain

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#2,029
Aug 11, 2014
Depends. We'd have to check statistics for how many low-skill jobs can be mechanized and how many people are around to be able to take them. Subway can be run by the AI (and pretty much all public transport as it's following a specified pre-programmed routes). In factories a lot of work is manual labor that can be done by machines. You can now take money or tickets directly from the machine and don't have to go to a woman in a box who's selling it. I am very interested to hear why AI is not going to cause a huge reduction in human employment.
 
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kanonite

kanonite

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#2,030
Aug 11, 2014
Were already testing buisness-minded AI's http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/4/5968405/ibm-wants-watson-to-orchestrate-your-next-board-room-takeover
 
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satan6

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#2,031
Aug 11, 2014
cRPG elements would be very nice. Like analogue choices made by utilizing gameplay mechanics to player's wish and not "press A to kill a baby or press B to save a baby", ability to kill anyone you want and have it affect storyline authentically. A lot of authentic dialog not like in bethesda's titles. Perk system. I also liked the character development systems from fallout games. It means no classes, only stats and skills and if you want to be known as "hacker" or "terrorist" you just have to be acknowledged by everyone as one or another by hacking or terrorising on a large scale. Also, no good-evil bar, only reputations with factions.
 
kanonite

kanonite

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#2,032
Aug 11, 2014
satan6 said:
cRPG elements would be very nice. Like analogue choices made by utilizing gameplay mechanics to player's wish and not "press A to kill a baby or press B to save a baby", ability to kill anyone you want and have it affect storyline authentically. A lot of authentic dialog not like in bethesda's titles. Perk system. I also liked the character development systems from fallout games. It means no classes, only stats and skills and if you want to be known as "hacker" or "terrorist" you just have to be acknowledged by everyone as one or another by hacking or terrorising on a large scale. Also, no good-evil bar, only reputations with factions.
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Dont worry. The source material says that the world of Cyberpunk is one where the laws of good and evil have been replaced with laws of expedience. You do what you gotta do to survive. Not to mention the Witcher had no binary moral system either.
 
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satan6

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#2,033
Aug 11, 2014
As for the cyberpunk I got some ideas for augments: hidden additional arms ( i mean human looking arms) and faces that can appear suddenly and surprise the enemy, now all those arms have different weapons in them like energy cannon, mecha-tentacle, buzz-saw, taser, homing missile launcher. As for non arm related augments: sharp tail, missile launcher on the back, multi use parachute as in MDK, tank of some animals like snakes, spiders, crows, mutated moths, flies, butterflies, frogs, lizards, hornets with something like rabies that makes them aggresive (tank being hidden in the torso of course). And for weapons: hookshot like in Just Cause, smokescreen bombs, throwing knives, knives, homing explosive boomerangs, joker's laughing gas, scarecrow's panic gas, jetpack, RC controlled vehicles, laser from the orbit, a few viruses that cause mass deaths, quarantine and terror. I don't know how the stats screen is going to look so idk if skills can be maxed, but if you max out or reach a high enough level of medical skill you get the ability to make clones which can lead you to having an army and taking over the city or even world be either declaring war against the government (then it turns into a sort-of a strategy game) or utilising a scheme from the star wars prequels. Also ability to raise the dead once you max medical and science skills and maybe complete a questline. With all the perks of being a necromancer, like having an army of undead that can't be killed which makes them better than clones, making people praise you and worship as a god, making others fear you, bribing even the most powerful individuals by offering them bringing their loved ones back to life. And when I mean undead I don't mean brainless zombiess but rather intelligent people that have all their memory and personality and don't want to serve you but they have to because of chips in theirs brains.
 
Suhiira

Suhiira

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#2,034
Aug 11, 2014
I think perhaps you mis-read my post Safe-r, I agreed that IF there was a human capable AI then human employment could be threatened. But WITHOUT one I don't see large scale problems.
 
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satan6

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#2,035
Aug 11, 2014
To kanonite:

They were moraly grey but most of the times they were binary. What I mean by analogue choices is like in fallout new vegas in the first town you are presented with problem of powder gangers wanting to destroy the village. At that situations you can
-join the gang and take over the village with them
-protect the village
-sell out one guy to the gang so they leave the village alone
-kill the ganger responsible for all this
-kill everyone in the village yourself
-kill the guy that they want to get
-not do anything and leave the town to itself
-get the help of local shopkeeper in protecting the village
-get the help of all the villigers in protecting the village
-get the help of Sunny Smiles
-get the help of a doctor
-get the help of victor
-get the help of a guy with crate of dynamite
-do it all alone
-get the help of the shopkeeper in destroying the village
-get the doctors help destroying the village
And that's not all you can do during the quest and all the things i mentioned are completely optional. That's analogue choice and it's awesome because it gives you complete agency and once you completed the quest you feel empowered because both the run and outcome of the questline fully depends on your decisions. And that's what should be in a dream RPG. Also, Fallout New Vegas is like this from start to finish and is probably my favourite game of all time.
 
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Suhiira

Suhiira

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#2,036
Aug 11, 2014
Maybe I should rethink FO:NV, I skipped it because I assumed it was just more Fallout 3 which was OK but not "great".
 
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satan6

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#2,037
Aug 11, 2014
suhiir said:
Maybe I should rethink FO:NV, I skipped it because I assumed it was just more Fallout 3 which was OK but not "great".
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Oh yeah, you totally should. It's way more ambitious than F3.
 
kanonite

kanonite

Senior user
#2,038
Aug 11, 2014
satan6 said:
To kanonite:

They were moraly grey but most of the times they were binary. What I mean by analogue choices is like in fallout new vegas in the first town you are presented with problem of powder gangers wanting to destroy the village. At that situations you can
-join the gang and take over the village with them
-protect the village
-sell out one guy to the gang so they leave the village alone
-kill the ganger responsible for all this
-kill everyone in the village yourself
-kill the guy that they want to get
-not do anything and leave the town to itself
-get the help of local shopkeeper in protecting the village
-get the help of all the villigers in protecting the village
-get the help of Sunny Smiles
-get the help of a doctor
-get the help of victor
-get the help of a guy with crate of dynamite
-do it all alone
-get the help of the shopkeeper in destroying the village
-get the doctors help destroying the village
And that's not all you can do during the quest and all the things i mentioned are completely optional. That's analogue choice and it's awesome because it gives you complete agency and once you completed the quest you feel empowered because both the run and outcome of the questline fully depends on your decisions. And that's what should be in a dream RPG. Also, Fallout New Vegas is like this from start to finish and is probably my favourite game of all time.
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Yeah, multiple solutions to problems would be great.
 
kanonite

kanonite

Senior user
#2,039
Aug 14, 2014
Would stem cell treatment be able to get rid of pesky implant rejection?
 
Maelcom404

Maelcom404

Senior user
#2,040
Aug 15, 2014
satan6 said:
To kanonite:

They were moraly grey but most of the times they were binary. What I mean by analogue choices is like in fallout new vegas in the first town you are presented with problem of powder gangers wanting to destroy the village. At that situations you can
-join the gang and take over the village with them
-protect the village
-sell out one guy to the gang so they leave the village alone
-kill the ganger responsible for all this
-kill everyone in the village yourself
-kill the guy that they want to get
-not do anything and leave the town to itself
-get the help of local shopkeeper in protecting the village
-get the help of all the villigers in protecting the village
-get the help of Sunny Smiles
-get the help of a doctor
-get the help of victor
-get the help of a guy with crate of dynamite
-do it all alone
-get the help of the shopkeeper in destroying the village
-get the doctors help destroying the village
And that's not all you can do during the quest and all the things i mentioned are completely optional. That's analogue choice and it's awesome because it gives you complete agency and once you completed the quest you feel empowered because both the run and outcome of the questline fully depends on your decisions. And that's what should be in a dream RPG. Also, Fallout New Vegas is like this from start to finish and is probably my favourite game of all time.
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Agree, I'd love to have the same kind of freedom in Cyberpunk, story/quest wise.
The only shamefull thing about it, is that you can't continue to play once you finished the game.

suhiir said:
Maybe I should rethink FO:NV, I skipped it because I assumed it was just more Fallout 3 which was OK but not "great".
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You should give it a try, it's just my opinion, but it's waaaaayyyy better than Fallout 3 (the game is shorter unfortunately, but let's hope for a Fallout 4 in the same vein), the story and the way your actions impacts on the game are closer to the 2 firsts than Fallout 3.
Like, different clans and sub-clans you can join, help, or kill with side quest which will impact the way the main story line is going to play out, there are really a lots of things to do in this one.
Still, it's has some minor flaws but it's a great step forward from F3, you're free to build your story in the main storyline.
 
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