Cyberpunk Soundtrack

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I prefer Rammstein when it comes to death metal...if it's called that. They have a unique mix of genres while still being pretty crazy.



The Scandi metal I've heard is very much from the 80's style in America. Not so enthusiastic about that.
 
I prefer Rammstein when it comes to death metal...if it's called that. They have a unique mix of genres while still being pretty crazy.
The Scandi metal I've heard is very much from the 80's style in America. Not so enthusiastic about that.

Rammstein plays "Tanz Metal" (not Industrial, as many labels them), it's some kind of a mix between "Nu Metal" and "Dance music" (well, something pretty catchy and easy songs structures), there are many bands in this genre if you dig it, like Ruoska (the singer do some pretty ridiculous faces tho lol)


though, take them, gives them drugs from a dark future and you got Xe None, I still don't know what to think about them, it's.... well, you need to watch it to understand :/



Death Metal would be closer to this:
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Or this
More technical and complex songs structures, working on a more "brutal" sound (not everytime thought, some bands like Jungle Rot have really simple songs, but well, after a while you can identify a genre by the way it sound, Death Metal have mostly a dark and deep sound with lot of bass (to the opposite of Black Metal for example), and the singer usualy have lung cancer lol)

About Scandi Metal, my favourite band is THE CROWN, Thrash/Death Metal at it's finest, a really underrated band, unfortunately :/

And sorry for the "metal lesson off-topic" ^^'
 
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Also, a lot of the scandinavian metal scene is in general influenced by British and other European (including a lot of various scandinavian) relevant music scenes, rather than the American music scene (although I am sure there is some American influences as well... just not as much as European). And the "Melodic Death Metal" subgenre was pretty much created in Sweden, and was helped made popular by the "Swedish Death Metal" that came befor it. Black Metal, which Norway is so known for, was created basicly in Europe during the 80's, with Norway then being responsible for the majority of the second wave of Black Metal during the 90's. Then of course there is Viking Metal as well. XD So saying that they sound "American" is mostly wrong... if anything I would almost say that the opposite is true, that the American styles sounds like European metal. Atleast for these, and simmilar kinds, of genes.

Now... with that said... I personaly do not really listen to a lot of these specific "scandinavian metal" kind of music, it's to screamy, to growly, to shrieking, and I find in general that they play their instrument way to fast for my liking. There are groups I would like to like... like for example groups like Amon Amarth (man that was a lot of use of the word "like" just now... XD ), a group where I really enjoy their instumentals (even if they can play to fast at times for me as well), but the majority of the vocals compleatly kills it for me (some songs are not as bad with the vocals, but most of them are).

There is a lot of other Scandinavian stuff in and around Metal music, that I listen to though, in various amounts (the ones in normal text I listen to occationally, the ones in underlines I listen to a lot and/or often)... groups like: Backyard Babies, Clawfinger, Deathstars, Dream Evil, Europe, Evergrey, HammerFall, Hardcore Superstars, HIM, Lambretta, Lillasyster, Lordi, Machinae Supremacy, Mustasch, Nightwish, PAIN, Raubtier, Sabaton, Skitarg, The 69 Eyes, The Hellacopters, The Hives, Tiamat, Zeromancer, and I have probably forgoten some.

The thing with what music will fit in a game like this, is pretty much... everything. Yes there is some music that many feel is "music of the future" (me included)... but the truth is that all of it will be there, your probably going to have everything from hardcore rave music, to stuff like nation based oldtime styled folk music, to various kinds of metal, country, rap, hip-hip, pop, disco, rockabilly, goth, rock, eurodisco, classical music, various kinds of asian influenced music, etc, etc, etc. It's just that we only expect certain type of music to be in the future, rather than realize all of it is going to be there in one form or another. And the "new" music of the future will probably more be combinations of genres we have not really seen or heard yet, rather then only new electronic based music, or something compleatly new that has not been heard ever befor, or what ever. You just need to run around in the right areas in the world to encounter certain specialized type of music, and the rest of the world will have pretty much mainstream stuff... what ever mainstream happends to be in the future.


Anywho... I would love to hear something like PAIN in the game to, which is a one-man side/hobby Industrial Metal musical project by Peter Tägtgren (founder, writer, singer and guitarist of the group Hypocrisy, player of multiple instruments, producer, and all around Metal guru for the Metal industry really... especially here in Europe and Scandinavia...), he only rents in people to play the instruments when he goes on tour with PAIN... otherwise he plays all the instruments him self when he makes music for PAIN.


PAIN - Shut Your Mouth


PAIN - Same Old Song


PAIN - Just Hate Me
 
(Kinda) news time!

Not so long ago a guy called "rajmund" put an interview with Perturbator on his blog. There is quite interesting quote from this interview:

A little bird – probably the one from Rutger Hauer’s shoulder – told me there’s something going on with you, CD Projekt RED guys and their „Cyberpunk 2077″ upcoming cRPG. Is it still on? Because, you know… There’s no one else I would definitely want to hear in this game.

The only response they gave me was that they haven’t decided about the soundtrack yet and they will contact me if they need something from me. That’s all I know for the moment !

So yeah, nothing is set in stone, but CDPR and Perturbator did talk at some point about CP2077 ost.

All kudos goes to @szuszu myself simply copy-paste info from his post.

 
Sorry but I truly hope we don't get any metal music because it's just noisy and extremely cliche. I'd prefer something atmospheric but still noticeable. Something along the lines of The Prodigy would be perfect I think.
 
With luck they'll allow players to import their own MP3's (or whatever) as a supplement to or replacement for CP2077s music track. That way everyone can have the sort of music they enjoy in their game.
 
I think custom radio like in GTA SA and 4's PC ports would be great. A wide variety of vanilla stations is great aswell as Night City is a diverse place.
 
Sorry but I truly hope we don't get any metal music because it's just noisy and extremely cliche. I'd prefer something atmospheric but still noticeable. Something along the lines of The Prodigy would be perfect I think.

All music is noicy and extreamly cliche. XD

Noice is noice, no matter what kind it is.

And also, there is basicly almost no new kinds of music anymore... almost nothing is compleatly "unique", it's all been done befor to some degree... so utlimatly it's all extreamly cliche. The "future" kind of music, that we are used to hearing in sci-fi stuff (be it movies, games, tv-series, music in general, etc)... have been around for... oh atleast 40 years... if not more. So really, if anything is "extreamly cliche" when it comes to sci-fi... it's "future sci-fi styled electronic music". XD

And finally... it's also just a matter of perspective and opinion what will work and not.

I mean sure, I personally feel that "future" sounding electronic music fits very well... but I highly doubt that's actually going to be the "soundtrack of the world" in 50 or 100 years. XD If anything I expect people in 50-100 years to still feel that "this electronic music sounds so futuristic! They should have it in this movie/game/etc!". XD
 
To reply over the "this has to be in, that to be out"
Long post, but that's my honnest take on the subject.

The thing is, it's "Cyberpunk"
Not "Mass Effect" or "Deus Ex", it's not just:
"Ho, let's have some cool music for a cool game with cyborgs", it's way more deep than this, mostly if you take the source material as basis for the soundtrack (because, if you come telling me "there aren't anything musicaly related in CP2020", well, get back reading the book, you'll be surprised...)

If some people here are mostly listening to "radio-mainstream-stuff" they'll probably don't get it, or don't see how the "media" part of CP2020 was as much deep as the economical/geopolitic side of the massive corporations and all the background stuffs.
Cyberpunk isn't Cyberpunk if you remove the underground, it's just bland scifi without any meaning.
Cyberpunk is a scream coming from the deep of the underground to the highest level of the leader.

Cyberpunk, as a "universe", isn't some soon-futuristic bullshit like Mass Effect or Star Trek or Blade Runner with epic synth music playing along and a "serious tone for serious people because you know, that's cool when it's serious and all, because life is a square", with Vangelis jerking his fat ass in the background when it comes to the soundtrack, it's waaaaayyyy deeper than this, trust me.

When it comes to Cyberpunk, forget the "badass cyborg soldier pictures" you seen on tumblr, think more about a crackhead in a dump, high on meth listening to GG Allin.
Or the crazy Corporate from "American Psycho", freaking over some New Age before having some coke and having fun with an escort.

It's all about the people, not the "world", and when it comes to people, they are... like us.
Night City is a "City", filled with different tones, sounds, cultures, languages, etc....
I expect a wide variety of style, ethnic music and all.

About the edgerunners "music"...
Music and art in general are a powerfull tool, it can make people sleep like most mainstream music nowadays, without real message, just some "buy my shits and live your life happy without asking yourself any questions", or it can create revolt, like the rock in the 60/70, when youngster actually scared the mob, nowadays you'll listen to "The Doors" without thinking that much, back in the days... it had a meaning, it pushed people to say "FUCK YOU" to the establishment.

That's how you have to figure the Cyberpunk soundtrack, more than trying to know what genre has to be in.

Music evolve with society, look around, listen to it throught the ages, and you'll see that the mainstream music goes softer and minimalist day by day, by the times the underground is more and more violent (the "Chrome Metal" described in Cyberpunk 2020 is somewhat like something ultra violent sounding, some over agressive punk/metal with really engaged lyrics (more than our actuals bands... those guy are wanted dead by corporations), and the crowd are beating each other to pulp in the pit, there are actual people dyings in concerts, it's not mosh, it's a big melee).

Why?
Because the society is more and more violent in everyway, it's in our world, and it's even more in the Cyberpunk one.
Street punks needs to "unleash" their frustration, to release stress in a way
Corporates would be more "clean and classy music", to relax after an hard day of work.

It's two different worlds, totally, the Corporate are like the "kings" in...Games of throne, they live in luxury, in their crystal castle, they don't want to hear a guy screaming "fuck you and blow my brain" all around, they have their own vision of the world, even there, they'll probably have some "nice" Rock or Punk band for the posers gangs, but nothing more offensive than Avril Lavigne: some easy riffs and stupids lyrics for teenagers, or even Electro (like ambiant, synth a la vangelis, stuff like this), some "nice and beautifull things", they don't want, and don't care about the misery of the world, they just want to be trapped in their endless happiness, and fuck the rest of the world.

On the otherside, you have the casual streetpunk / edgerunner, living a shitty live, and they probably don't listens to Mozart if you see what I mean...
They go in dark club, made in the ruins of abandoned buildings, listening to "angry and engaged" music, sure it's ugly and "noisy", but it's intended to, it's their mindset, they have nothing to lose, they live in the dirt, they don't care about "nice music", they want something to kick out their rage over.

Now, Cyberpunk will be refreshed, I don't say "let's put only metal and cool music", but IMO the soundtrack will not just be "a soundtrack", it's as much important in the Cyberpunk universe as the implants and the corporations, it doesn't have to sound futuristic, "just because it's 2077", it has to sound like something coming from a divised society, with the ultra-rich at one side, and the ultra-poor on the other.

That's the "Edge" William Gibson talks about when he talk about Cyberpunk.

I can't find back the exact sentence, but he said something in the line of "Without the edge, there aren't cyberpunk, it's just sci-fi".

Just like movies, you have movies like Blade Runners or Strange Days, filled with "Edge", a chaotic city, with fully fleshed characters, living in a messy world, some kind of a "dangerous high tech babylone", Style over Substance, that's the thing.
Remove the edge, and you have bland movies like Minority Report, I Robot, Prometheus...
Sure it's "a distopic soon future", but Case, Molly, Max Headroom or Decker wouldn't fit in it.
And the "nice people" from those movies wouldn't last long in the actual "Cyberpunk" world.

We need an "edgy soundtrack", whatever style find their way in, a big difference between "corporate" and "edgerunners" mindset and music.
Even the main story have to make you travel through every layer of the society, and by so, giving you different tastes of the Cyberpunk's "musical world", the same way the radios on GTA seems so "living", because you can find the same in your car, that's just my opinion tho, but it's something they need to reach to really make a "cyberpunk soundtrack" and a fully fleshed Cyberpunk world, otherwise it'll be a lil "forced" IMO.

It's not just for the sake of music, but to enhance the "realism and social credibility" of a fucked up world in 2077.

You can go from music like this in the corporate world (inner night city, etc...)
More "club friendly" and "eerie" ala Vangelis, more "it's the future, welcome in our nice city with neon and all"
I'm pretty limited about the link I can put there, it's just some examples

and the deeper you'll fall in the combat zone, you'll stumble into the dirt and the anger, and the sound have to become harsher to stick with it.

I could have put more songs but that's not the point, it's just to show how the music and the art in general is pictured in Cyberpunk 2020, and Cyberpunk as a genre usualy, corporate wants "bland" songs, and edgerunners want "agressive and meaningfull songs".

It all depend how they'll picture the game tho, but if they keep the roots of 2020, what I said is, I think, pretty relevant.
Just my 2cts.
 
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Geez, is Herr Müller even capable of producing something that's not excellent or very good at least?
New full length plz. ASAP.


Ulver - Perdition City

 
Thinking a bit about what Mael said... there is one band I listen to that might fit very well with the streets and underground and what not in CP2020. It's a Swedish group called Clawfinger... they might fit because they are known for being aggressive and make a lot of music that tackles things like politics, racism, etc. They where pretty controversial when they first got on the market (back in 89-91'ish), especially for one particular song which I am certain everybody will know which one I mean if they search for Clawfinger on youtube or something. Once you see the name of the song you will know what song I am talking about, don't judge the song by it's name though, the lyrics are compleatly anti-racist. Although... I don't really recomend listening to "that" particular song it in a public place (unless you know the peopls around you I guess), due to the chorus of the song. Because I am pretty certain that it WILL be missunderstood. XD

Truth

I Need You
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Recipe For Hate

Biggest & The Best

I could keep posting more songs from Clawfinger, because there are not a lot of songs they have made that I do not like... but I guess 4 will have to do, and your going to have to search for more your self. XD
 
I wish they could get their hands on Klayton for Cyberpunk 2077's music. :)
The last works of this guy are such a nice combination of synthesizers, distorted guitars, clean, melodic vocals and aggressive shouts, this is imho the closest thing to "Chromerock" that I've ever listened to.
[video=youtube;rGUYEr1m-cA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGUYEr1m-cA[/video]
 
MISTA 93
(Jassy/Hip Hop instrumentals)

Da Defanishun

Vacuum Presidents

Madd Izm

Sleep Paralysis

Let The Darkness Flow
 
Nightcrawler - Genesis (feat. Dana Jean Phoenix)


In fact, most songs featured on New Retro Wave channel would be appropriate for CP2077. Or even for an in-game radio station...
 
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