Decent Arm Wrestling Mini Game

[username_3236565]

Decent Arm Wrestling Mini Game

I always thought TW2 arm wrestling mini game is an insult to an ape's intelligence.
It is so easy and pointless, it would be easier if the money was given to you for free.

So I thought, let me show these guys a decent arm wrestling mini game. It's from the game Shenmue 2.
Not only you have to keep pressing the button fast to overcome your oponnent, but also you need to get the QTEs right whenever it appears, and you can't really know when it is going to appear. I almost broke my arm to win some matches, that was really an arm wrestling mini game. It made my arm ache like if I was really arm wrestling someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gebmxGYGssk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mPVtWtcvA

Next time, make something with a better sense of challenge CDPR, unless you turn the game into a pointless superficial experience.

 

[Bowmangr]

I always thought TW2 arm wrestling mini game is an insult to an ape's intelligence.
It is so easy and pointless, it would be easier if the money was given to you for free.

So I thought, let me show these guys a decent arm wrestling mini game. It's from the game Shenmue 2.
Not only you have to keep pressing the button fast to overcome your oponnent, but also you need to get the QTEs right whenever it appears, and you can't really know when it is going to appear. I almost broke my arm to win some matches, that was really an arm wrestling mini game. It made my arm ache like if I was really arm wrestling someone.

Next time, make something with a better sense of challenge CDPR, unless you turn the game into a pointless superficial experience.

While I do agree that the mini-games could be more complex, I don't really like your attitude. You could have said the same thing more polite.

And it's not the first time that you have come here to bash TW2. If you really want to help the franchise, just post your ideas without trolling because you are undermining your own argument.

That is all.

 

[yuikami]

While I do agree that the mini-games could be more complex, I don't really like your attitude. You could have said the same thing more polite.

And it's not the first time that you have come here to bash TW2. If you really want to help the franchise, just post your ideas without trolling because you are undermining your own argument.

That is all.

+LIKE
I couldn't have put it better myself.

It doesn't look much different from a fistfight neither.

 

[secondchildren]

Trolling attempts are not tolerated in this forum. If you wanna talk about something, please rephrase it using more appropriate words.

 

[Eri94_user70]

Button smashing is never a good way in any game. Several games from the 90s had that, and now for some reason they have had a comeback. Trashing your keyboard or gamepad to complete a minigame will always be a lazy and poorly designed method for solving a puzzle or challenge. As for QTE this is a more reasonable approach, but then again your complain is entirely subjective. Some people will like QTE while other will prefer the existing method Armwrestling have in TW 2. (or prefer it over QTE)

Rather than to complain on things that bother you on the forum which will have no impact what so ever on the already existing gameplay why don't you look for a mod (or design one yourself) which would solve your problem. If that is the case, it could be recommended though to present the issue in a more civilizied manner as otherwise people won't take your conserns seriously.

 

[saintmagician]

I didn't like the mini games very much. Okay for special occasions, like when you are rescueing dandelion and zoltan at the start of act I. Adds a bit of extra flavour to the game.

But the mini game quests? they just felt stupid to me. And worse still, since I'm a bit of a comletionist, that I feel compelled to complete them all. The poker ones are especially bad because it is luck based. At least the other two just wastes a bit of tiem and are not too fustrating.

 

[Marcin Momot]

I love Shenmue

 

[username_3236806]

Trolling attempts are not tolerated in this forum. If you wanna talk about something, please rephrase it using more appropriate words.

word sister.

 

[username_3236367]

I don't think at all that this is a "troll" post, certainly doesn't appear that way after re-reading the forum rules. Granted, he could have used more constructive language, but if now "trolling" qualifies anyone who doesn't praise the developer, then I suppose most of us are trolls. The fact is that that he didn't offend anyone directly, not even implicitly, and he offers proof that there's at least one game that seems to support his opinion. If anything, the most embarrasing part about this thread is that secondchildren (a moderator) jumps on here to warn a forum member and yet there's nothing in the OP's comment that violates forum rules.

Not liking, or agreeing with a post happens. But how a moderator involves himself on such a topic is quite telling...

Just my two cents.

 

[Bowmangr]

I don't think at all that this is a "troll" post, certainly doesn't appear that way after re-reading the forum rules. Granted, he could have used more constructive language, but if now "trolling" qualifies anyone who doesn't praise the developer, then I suppose most of us are trolls. The fact is that that he didn't offend anyone directly, not even implicitly, and he offers proof that there's at least one game that seems to support his opinion. If anything, the most embarrasing part about this thread is that secondchildren (a moderator) jumps on here to warn a forum member and yet there's nothing in the OP's comment that violates forum rules.

Not liking, or agreeing with a post happens. But how a moderator involves himself on such a topic is quite telling...

Just my two cents.

You obviously haven't seen the other posts created by the same person... He is not trying to help, he is trying to bash the game because he didn't like it.

 

[username_3236367]

You obviously haven't seen the other posts created by the same person... He is not trying to help, he is trying to bash the game because he didn't like it.

No, I haven't - but your comment proves my suspicions that he's merely being punishes and cast out for previous posts. When I read a post, I don't hold the content against the member based on previous posts he/she has written, becuase that would just mean that everything is based on emotional prerogatives. But now it's clear why a moderator would chose to reprimand a member's totally legitimate post (again, I am not saying that his post was worded well, I am saying that the the backlash and the warnings were totally uncalled for). Ban him if he is a troublemaker.

EDIT: ...and, if he has a bad rep on here, then why not just thumb him down so that his reputation becomes so low that nobody will take him seriously anyways. That's why the reputation counter exists. lawl...he's already at -20 reputation.

 

[Keloo]

Seriously I'm kinda tired of people like this guy posting all sorts of stuff that he doesn't like about the game, and consider them insulting. Insulting to what or to whom ? Firstly he opened a thread about how insulting is the witcher 2's plot and game in general, and how dumbed down is and much worse compared to the first game.

Ok some got major issues concerning video games, and other activities, they suddenly feel offended, insulted by a game or a movie, that he/she considers somehow too stupid and thus insults his genius. That's your problem "mate", it's your problem that you feel insulted by a damn video game. All games must have complex, complicated puzzles to be considered good by some "snob elitists" like you?

Personally I enjoy playing all sorts of games, and not once I've felt insulted by a game. It didn't strike my mind that a game can be insulting, at least I didn't put it that way.

Should I feel insulted by a shooter, because all I have to do is to run and kill, should I feel insulted by a fighting game because all I have to do is bash button like crazy ? Games are for pleasure, entertainment,and certainly aren't designed to test someones IQ level, or designed for the IQ level of some individuals, "if your IQ isn't above 150 don't buy this game", or "caution: you may feel insulted by this game if your IQ is above 160", or "this game can be played by dumb people".

It's stupid to think like that, it's arrogant and elitistic. Games are games, and foremost are supposed to be FUN, enjoyable, not exhausting, giving you headaches by all sorts of puzzles and complicated equations. At least I play a game to detach myself from my daily matters, to release stress, and mainly because they are FUN, engaging, interesting, and some competitive too. I don't play a game because I want to think, to resolve complex and complicated puzzles, or anything like that.

So yeah, I also think, that the way you express YOUR personal issues that you have with this game in particular, makes you a troll.

P.S: You could've said in a more polite, civilized manner, less arrogant, and elitistic, like: "I feel that the mini games like arm wresting can be improved, like in this game for example, or something similar". And I'm pretty sure no one would've called you a troll.

People tend to call others trolls, the ones that act selfish, superior, arrogant, elitistic, like they know it all, or they own the absolute truth, etc...

And of course if you come here and say that THIS game is crap, terrible, utter shit in an aggressive way, and it stays like that just because YOU say so,and because YOU feel insulted and frustrated by the game itself, you will be seen as a troll.

 

[sheylia]

The simple fact that you chose your username to be "TW1 Is Better" leads me to believe that you did not sign up to this forum to constructively review the game in the first place but rather had a biased opinion to begin with as you're constantly comparing TW2 to TW1 however, ignoring the fact that they are 2 entirely different game with, granted, the same world and storyline but they are still seperate games - you can't say The Witcher 1 was/is better based on that.
Adding to this I doubt your opinion and unconstructive feedback will do anything to help "improve" as it were the next Witcher game, to put it bluntly - if you don't like the game don't play it.

On the topic at hand, I dislike the way they solved the armwrestling in Shenmu because I dislike most quicktime events - simple as, opinions differ.

 

[username_3236367]

@Myself Cosmin - I liked your post and I agree with it, both the content and the context - but please let me, for my own sake, explain my beef with this thread. Truth be told I couldn't give a rat's ass about TW1_Is_Better and his posts, I never ever came across any of his posts before, and even reading this post I just shrugged it off as neither good nor bad, but when I started reading the replies, I felt disappointed especially that a moderator would get involved over a totally innocent (annoying, sure, but innocent) post, and then the whole annoying and lame "troll" fingerpointing ensued. Then you, as a prime example, come on TW1_Is_Better thread, and try to teach the very lesson to him which you yourself cannot seem to put into action. Forums are meants to have an element of discord, even annoyance - but really, how is it not "elitist" that a moderator bashes a post that violated no rules simply because of emotional views on that forum member? Screw TW1_Is_Better, this is not even about him anymore, it's about the sense of community which I always considered to be exempliary on here, and it's just not worth changing that for a guy whose reputation speaks for itself. If we start bashing people becuase we deem them annoying, do you not suppose that this will stiffle transparency of honesty? If I have something really bad to say about CDP or TW2, or the TW3, I should feel at ease to share those. Once it becomes clear that I'm doing it to provike the community, then a banning is in order. Anyways, my coffee is getting cold.

 

[Keloo]

Forums are meants to have an element of discord, even annoyance - but really, how is it not "elitist" that a moderator bashes a post that violated no rules simply because of emotional views on that forum member?

I really don't think the moderators attitude was elitistic, or arrogant in any way or form.
The moderator said in a polite manner that "trolling posts aren't tolerated here, and suggested that he/she should rephrase their problems in a different manner." How is that "elitistic" ?

Say things like "I always thought TW2 arm wrestling mini game is an insult to an ape's intelligence.
It is so easy and pointless, it would be easier if the money was given to you for free. " I think it's pretty trollish to me. And again he comes and tell us that a game, or a particular gameplay element is insulting even for an ape. Couldn't he post his comment without that particular phrase ?

I mean if I liked that mini game, or at least I was insulted or bothered by it, that makes me too dumb to notice it, or what ? At least this is how I take it.

There are many games that I don't like, I don't enjoy playing, I feel bored, disappointed by it, but I don't go on the community page of that particular game and say it is insulting even for an ape, I don't call others dumb because they enjoy playing a game that I don't like. I don't tend to express my utter disappointment and frustration aggressively about a game, like some people like to do, believing they will resolve something, or that they'll help improving the game. I don't like that game, I move forward to the next one.

I certainly think that is the trolling part, and that was in his previous posts also. Coming here and telling us that this game that we enjoy, is insulting even for an ape, it's like saying "hey dude this game is for retarded people, and you who all love it, and praise it, guess what makes you...".Figure it out mate.
Anyway I'm not gonna argue more on this topic, it's pointless, got better things to do.

 

[pbpoovanna]

I always thought TW2 arm wrestling mini game is an insult to an ape's intelligence.
It is so easy and pointless, it would be easier if the money was given to you for free.

So I thought, let me show these guys a decent arm wrestling mini game. It's from the game Shenmue 2.
Not only you have to keep pressing the button fast to overcome your oponnent, but also you need to get the QTEs right whenever it appears, and you can't really know when it is going to appear. I almost broke my arm to win some matches, that was really an arm wrestling mini game. It made my arm ache like if I was really arm wrestling someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gebmxGYGssk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mPVtWtcvA

Next time, make something with a better sense of challenge CDPR, unless you turn the game into a pointless superficial experience.

lol i have never seen any member's comments being disapproved this bad hahahahahahahahahahahaahah on the forum so far, WATCH WHAT U SAY

 

[secondchildren]

@Blaidd Gwyn
I don't think it's ncessary to explain or justify my choice of words and the reason why I put a warning here.
If you wish to discuss about me and my job, send me a PM.

 

[Aditya]

I thought there is something called 'ban' exists in forums/communities or what 'it' said was not considered wrong?
why is that there is always one being always bent on being the 'opposing/whining unit' in forums meant for fans? why come here in the first place?
ah screw him/her/whatever it is all know what is right no need to give so much attention to the whiners

 

[Seeker.217]

@Blaidd Gwyn we give a lot a freedom to All the members here and if you don't like how a mod dose there job here you can take it up with that Mod or one of the Senior mod here like my self
Also you don't know the full story of the OP.@

@Aditya_the_wa... yes we do have the ban hammer here and we only use it when it really needed or when we have problem members here after a grate deal a warring and such

 

[username_3236367]

@Blaidd Gwyn we give a lot a freedom to All the members here and if you don't like how a mod dose there job here you can take it up with that Mod or one of the Senior mod here like my self
Also you don't know the full story of the OP.@

No I don't, hence why I am not a moderator - but this battle wouldn't be won by me no matter how right I feel that I am (on a philosophical level, and supported by the forum rules, which I reviewed before I made my first post on this thread) so I am at a disadvantage. Moderators always stick together, and when all fails you pull out the "Also you don't know the full story of the OP." gun. What interest do I have with the full story? I don't moderate nor do I have the slightest interest in doing so - but what prevents you or any other moderator here turning on me next? Or any other given member, if all that is needed is for a moderator to dislike a post or the member.