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Dijkstra is so underrated

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Tooters

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#21
Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
Dijikstra is stupid, attacking Geralt proves that
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But.. But.. He's not ploughin' meant to beeeee >:

He'd have at least learnt from the first time..
 
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Krull32

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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
Dijikstra is stupid, attacking Geralt proves that
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Yep, he should know what will happen :evil:
 
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daveyido

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Aug 6, 2015
To be fair everyone in the assassination quest acts like a moron.

Vernon "mark my words Temeria will be free" Roche decides he can't actually be bothered making Temeria free.
Ruthless cunning Radovid falls for the most obvious trap imaginable.
Dijkstra gives a big "I betrayed you haha!" speech instead of just riddling them with arrows whilst they are chatting. He also tries to kill Geralt in a similar situation to the one where he ended up with a broken leg. And in that case Geralt didn't have Temerian special forces aiding him and Dijkstra had double the men.
 
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Aug 6, 2015
TLDR : True ^^
 
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carlos2033

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Aug 6, 2015
MissMerigold said:
But.. But.. He's not ploughin' meant to beeeee >:

He'd have at least learnt from the first time..
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That is precisley why he is stupid did he forget Thanned, and plus Roche, Ves, and Thaler are there and he has broken leg and he still think he can beat witcher, he reached maximum level of stupidity in that moment, game over for him
 
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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
That is precisley why he is stupid did he forget Thanned, and plus Roche, Ves, and Thaler are there and he has broken leg and he still think he can beat witcher, he reached maximum level of stupidity, game over for him
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Super Dijkstra... He can still do it :D
 
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ph3s

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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
That is precisley why he is stupid did he forget Thanned, and plus Roche, Ves, and Thaler are there and he has broken leg and he still think he can beat witcher, he reached maximum level of stupidity, game over for him
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Do you want to say that REDs make him stupid as couldn't be bothered anymore or run outta idea (thre is nothing left to copy from the books) .

Dijikstra from the book would never done any of those stupid things. He done 2 big mistakes in the past for a person of that mind that would be really stupid to do one of them again.

Dijikstra form book would simply poison the drink ;)
 
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Aug 6, 2015
ph3s said:
Do you want to say that REDs make him stupid as couldn't be bothered anymore or run outta idea (thre is nothing left to copy from the books) .

Dijikstra from the book would never done any of those stupid things. He done 2 big mistakes in the past for a person of that mind that would be really stupid to do one of them again.
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I think he died there just for the sake of drama, so we could have some hard choice and dramatic moment, why he act so stupid dunno but it`s completley OOC
 
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Aug 6, 2015
ph3s said:
Dijikstra form book would simply poison the drink
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Or maybe another nasty action.
But no direct confrontation.


carlos2033 said:
I think he died there just for the sake of drama, so we could have some hard choice and dramatic moment, why he act so stupid dunno but it`s completley OOC
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Yep, thinking the same.
But again not necessary for the story. Same like the dead from Sile de Tanserville....
 
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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
I think he died there just for the sake of drama, so we could have some hard choice and dramatic moment, why he act so stupid dunno but it`s completley OOC
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For the most of players there is no hard choice. Dijikstra vs Roche & Ves. Temeria wins in most cases, so the idea of drama is a meh.

Geralt never cared about North tho.

BTW Dijikstra from the book would kill Phillipa on the side while she had dimeritium on
 
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carlos2033

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Aug 6, 2015
ph3s said:
For the most of players there is no hard choice. Dijikstra vs Roche & Ves wins in most cases, so the idea of drama is a meh.

Geralt never cared about North tho
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For most players it`s not hard choice when you reached that point, and Dijikstra die like common thug there, but if someone really hate nilfs they haave a hard choice there.

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Krull32 said:
Yep, thinking the same.
But again not necessary for the story. Same like the dead from Sile de Tanserville....
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yeah this is dark mature rpg and people will die, dunno why it happen in strange circumstances.
I would put Vesemir there too in strange deaths but it`s for another topic
 
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Krull32

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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
yeah this is dark mature rpg and people will die
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I have nothing against "dying moments" , but only if they are reasonable and the story benefited from them.
Here it's a bit stupid...
 
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Aug 6, 2015
Krull32 said:
I have nothing against "dying moments" , but only if they are reasonable and the story benefited from them.
Here it's a bit stupid...
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Agree completley, but i don`t see reason for Dijikstra to act like that and die, same goes for the Sile death
 
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Aug 6, 2015
carlos2033 said:
i don`t se reason
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Me either
Booth simply sacrificed for drama
 
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daveyido

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Aug 6, 2015
Krull32 said:
I have nothing against "dying moments" , but only if they are reasonable and the story benefited from them.
Here it's a bit stupid...
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:eek:fftopic:but...
Would have been better if we seen Sile being burned at the stake in on entering Oxenfurt or she could maybe replace the random no name sorceress in Novigrad. She dies to make Letho's words about being kinder to let her explode be true, so it does provide a purpose in a way.
 
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Gennad86

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#36
Aug 6, 2015
I understand why they did this to him. Just look at this situation.
We have Radovid, who has really gone mad. There are very few players who choose to let him live with purpose. He threatens half of Geralt's friends, so he is definitely no the one to side with.
Emhyr helped Geralt a lot in TW3, but we shouldn't forget what Nilfs did in the books and in TW2. Wanted to capture Ciri, provoked wars, captured Triss etc. He is much more likeable than Radovid, but still Geralt can't trust him at all.
And here we have Dijkstra, who is certainly not Geralt's friend, but he never went for revenge for his broken leg, he helped Geralt in Novigrad, he is definiely not mad and, as we know from books, he is as honest and fair as the spy can be.
If the choice was like this, I think 95% players would easily choose Dijkstra. Even those who didn't read books can judge by the events of TW2 and TW3.
Too easy for a choice, isn't it? And, as we remember, the most important choices int TW3 are always quite difficult. So they decided to make us choose not from Radovid, Emhyr and Dijkstra, but rather from Radovid, Roche\Emhyr and Dijkstra. The choice is still rather obvious, because Roche and Ves are truly Geralt's friends who were ready to come to his aid both in TW2 and TW3. But still Dijkstra is rather viable choice, though I really wish we could choose him without sacrificing friends.
 
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centda

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Aug 6, 2015
Dijkstra for president :).
To bad that you have to decide betwen Roche and Dijkstra. I really like them both.
 
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carlos2033

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Aug 6, 2015
centda said:
Dijkstra for president :).
To bad that you have to decide betwen Roche and Dijkstra. I really like them both.
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Choose Radovid and have them both :secret:
 
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Dracolich55

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Aug 6, 2015
Gennad86 said:
If the choice was like this, I think 95% players would easily choose Dijkstra. Even those who didn't read books can judge by the events of TW2 and TW3.
Too easy for a choice, isn't it? And, as we remember, the most important choices int TW3 are always quite difficult. So they decided to make us choose not from Radovid, Emhyr and Dijkstra, but rather from Radovid, Roche\Emhyr and Dijkstra. The choice is still rather obvious, because Roche and Ves are truly Geralt's friends who were ready to come to his aid both in TW2 and TW3. But still Dijkstra is rather viable choice, though I really wish we could choose him without sacrificing friends.
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Well I would agree but there are two problem with this:

1) Book Emhyr and Nilfgaard=/= Game Emhyr and Nilfgaard. It has become quite clear that the *game* version of Nilfgaard is portrayed in a more positive light and "whitewashed" in comparison to the book counterpart. Heck, even that whole deal with Emhyr wanting to impregnate Ciri is retconne'd with him just wanting to abdicate the throne for her. With that in mind, Nilfgaard as presented in the game is preferable to even Dijkstra's Redania.

2) Dijkstra's ending slide indicates that he basically becomes Stalin with his "industrialization" often done against people's will. Not to mention it is indicated that he basically takes after Emhyr's example anyways.
 
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Trireme

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#40
Aug 7, 2015
The trouble now is the choices Geralt faces in Reason of State are nowhere near equal. Letting Dijkstra win gives vague political benefits (which Geralt would not care much about) while killing Dijkstra saves the lives of Geralt's friends.

The way I would design the quest is with poison in the vodka. Geralt is still functional and likely to survive because of his mutations, but Roche, Ves and Thaler are dying. Roche's dying request is for Geralt to stop Dijkstra and save Temeria, but Geralt also has the option to bring a sorceress to save his friends. If Geralt brings help and saves his friends, Roche is embittered because Temeria is lost. If Geralt stops Dijkstra, Roche dies but his patriotic wish is fulfilled.
 
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