Dismemberment in TW3

[Bansai]

Dismemberment in TW3

This isn't how Witchers fight, their style is more like a dance of death that leaves your enemies cut and bleeding not dismembered...

I would easily dismiss this if it was contextual, rare, after some really heavy blow, but from what I saw at Xbone conference and Gamespot material the meat is flying crazy often, it looks stupid. Geralt is not a butcher (please don't make the Blaviken pun) that swings his sword like an idiot.

To be frank, I'm a little bit disappointed in this. I know it looks "cool, swag, kids will love it" but come on :/ you're ruining it for the fans of the Witcher universe.


EDIT: Specially for the ppl that are too lazy to read the rest of the topic and just ingornantly post random things:

This isn't a topic about turning off dismemberments or applying any kind of censorship, the point of this topic is to tone down the frequency of dismemberments so it can stop looking like Geralt is using a lightsaber and so they won't become boring after 2 hours of fighting.

This is a Witcher game, not Ninja Gaiden meat festival.

 

[Luxorek]

you're ruining it for the fans of the Witcher universe.

No, they're not.

It's such a trivial thing that I do believe there will be an option to turn off dismemberment in the settings.

 

[Bansai]

If such an important aspect as a combat strays so far from the book then I believe it is ruining, well at least for me, maybe I misspoke about ALL the fans, I only meant some hardcore book fans (like me for example), not all other including the video game ones.

 

[sidspyker]

You'd rather have wooden stick swinging like The Witcher 2? Also there was plenty of dismemberment, gore and GREAT slashes in The Witcher 1.

Spoiler

wonder if @Sirnaq has some GIFs of those things

 

[StaGiors]

There was dismemberment in TW2 I believe. It is not that bad, if it happens during certain animations I guess, ones that justify it. I'm not sure I liked the slash-in-half part shown in the demo. It's not like Geralt would do that to someone, unless he was really really really furious. Not quite convinced he was that furious there.

 

[Bansai]

@sidspyker

I'd rather have bleeding or dead enemies as a result of a cut artery instead of a butcher shop. But if someone didn't read the books I can't expect him to understand my sentiment. The Witcher 1 is by no means any guideline but the fighting system there was probably as close as it can get, lots of blood, no excessive dismemberment but just the right amount, after some really good finisher on a stunned opponent.


Like I said, Geralt is a Witcher, not a Butcher (Bitcher :d ?), he provides a quick death and not this ... piece of pointless gore for the amusement of the masses.

Pozdrawiam, and I hope that "Zajebisty Team in Warsaw" can yet salvage something from this, some option to make it less often, or just for executions on a stunned enemy.

Edit: And please don't mistake this topic for some GORE CENSORSHIP, I love rivers of blood from those videos they showed, I just don't particulary care for dismemberment after even the lightest slash of a weapon, it looks silly, it's not a lightsaber.

 

[eLeF1]

A Ninja Gaiden wannabe thats whats up.

 

[Sagitarii]

If such an important aspect as a combat strays so far from the book then I believe it is ruining, well at least for me, maybe I misspoke about ALL the fans, I only meant some hardcore book fans (like me for example), not all other including the video game ones.

I am a hardcore book fan and I disagree. Geralt had a nasty fighting style ("A ty paskudnie zabijasz, Geralt").

Yes he was dancing around tougher opponents, slashing quickly. But usually he killed fast and effectively. That doesn't exclude some dismemberment, especially because Sapkowski often didin't even describe how exactly Geralt killed a certain persona.

PS. Of course I wouldn't like too much of it - just enough.

 

[Bansai]

"A ty paskudnie zabijasz, Geralt"

That just means: "You have an ugly way of killing Geralt" (or smth along this notion), he was dancing and cutting, not cleaving (key word).

But your Post Scriptum is precisely my point in a nutshell, he dismembers EVERYTHING, and it looks stupid as hell.

 

[C0bR]

By hitting faster you get more force behind the strike and you cause more damage. Geralt always left carnage behind him. Dijkstra described his work as that of a grim reaper.

I don't have a problem with it, especially when is striking down unarmored foes.

 

[Bansai]

Well yes, "death follows in his wake when he draws his sword" - that's the meaning behind Dijkstra words, nothing else. Grim Reaper is an embodiment of death not flying meat.

 

[arkblazer]

If such an important aspect as a combat strays so far from the book then I believe it is ruining, well at least for me, maybe I misspoke about ALL the fans, I only meant some hardcore book fans (like me for example), not all other including the video game ones.

But there where decapitations in the book. nevertheless i do agree thats its a bit much, but i think people are making too big of a deal. And Geralt is a butcher... a butcher from blaviken

 

[Bansai]

Of course there were, but alas, that's not my point

Let it be raining meat, just not after every slash of his sword as was seen so far.

 

[Zabanzo]

@sidspyker

I'd rather have bleeding or dead enemies as a result of a cut artery instead of a butcher shop. But if someone didn't read the books I can't expect him to understand my sentiment. The Witcher 1 is by no means any guideline but the fighting system there was probably as close as it can get, lots of blood, no excessive dismemberment but just the right amount, after some really good finisher on a stunned opponent.


Like I said, Geralt is a Witcher, not a Butcher (Bitcher :d ?), he provides a quick death and not this ... piece of pointless gore for the amusement of the masses.

Pozdrawiam, and I hope that "Zajebisty Team in Warsaw" can yet salvage something from this, some option to make it less often, or just for executions on a stunned enemy.

Edit: And please don't mistake this topic for some GORE CENSORSHIP, I love rivers of blood from those videos they showed, I just don't particulary care for dismemberment after even the lightest slash of a weapon, it looks silly, it's not a lightsaber.

I have read all the books and I can remember lots of gore, guts spilled, heads cut off. From your description Geralt is some silent assassin who leaves bodies mostly intact, but that isnt the case, he always used to leave his victims in pretty bad condition.

 

[eLeF1]

Apparently some people dont realize that if you slash half-way through a neck with a guick and accurate stroke (nothing flashy) and leave the head dangling semi-attached, that will look even more brutal and disturbing than a full decapitation. Just a reminder to CDPR if they ever plan to do violence properly.

 

[Bansai]

@Riordan1

No, I didn't describe him as silent assassin, as I said, there were decpaitations but that was minority, not majority, Gore yes, much of it please, guts ? Why not there were some cases of that, cleaving in half and effortlessly removing heads of EVERY enemy ? NOOOOO. It's just impossible to dismember so cleanly so many enemies. If you can't uderstand it, I guess I'm wasting time here, I just hope some of the devs will take notice.

 

[Jobbert.907]

I think it looks brilliant. Kudos to CDPR for making this system. And as said, Geralt doesn't bleed his enemies to death. His opponents usually end up badly mutilated. There are plenty of moments in the books where Geralt cuts off a limb or whatnot.

 

[Cjail]

Is dismemberment functional for the combat or it's there only for the sake of aesthetic?
I like dismemberment either way but when it has a actual role in combat it's better.

 

[arkblazer]

I might be remembering wrong. But i think Geralts gore factor went up when he got Sihil. If im not mistaken that sword went through its opponents like butter. I would be cool with it if the decapitations would increase if you used a powerful sword akin to Sihil. And you know that might be the case. Gweralt seemed to have a really badass runed sword in the trailers.

 

[mavowar]

Tell you what OP let me have a sword and I will "test" out how it works in the real world on you(sarcasm alert).....When you use a sword things get nasty. It isn't surgery. Then again even surgery gets "messy" I personally do not see a problem. I think it adds to the realism.. Geralt is faster and stronger than regular humans. Also with a better sword(magical, better metal etc) So it is believable that when he hits you with a direct shot body parts get removed!!!!