DLC with the Evelyn Parker route (betraying Dexter DeShawn)

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I think there would be great potential down the line for a re-implementation of the (probably cut) Evelyn Parker route where V betrays Dexter DeShawn (cut him lose). In a pre-release VIDEO it's quite clear T-BUG switched sides and V managed to shoot Dexter DeShawn while self also getting shoot. This is so much great potential to play it all out a bit differently. That would be a most welcome DLC.

With the current canon endings in Cyberpunk 2077 there is not much room for DLC's since they have to "play out" before the final Hanako Arasaka meeting. A Evelyn Parker route DLC would work out great, so would DLC's that pick up from the canon endings. We really want to know how it all plays out. We want closure.

EDIT 1: To give an even better example, I have made a Youtube video from the actual Evelyn Parker scene that let's the player "betray" Dexter DeShawn, then I merged it with the consequences from the official E3 video. You all have to excuse V's gender change between the betray and consequence scene, but at least we can finally have it all in proper context now:

EDIT 2: When hacking/modding I found some leftovers from the canned Evelyn Parker route:
 
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Yeah, I always thought it was odd that that led nowhere.

And now that you mention it, I do seem to vaguely recall what you're talking about re. the post-Heist scene in one of the pre-release vids.

Great idea!
 
Yeah, I always thought it was odd that that led nowhere.

And now that you mention it, I do seem to vaguely recall what you're talking about re. the post-Heist scene in one of the pre-release vids.

Great idea!
While posting the proper time stamped link to the E3 youtube video I of mistake post my post before it was fully done. But look on the link and you see it all in full glory. And I seriuosly wanted to betray Dexter DeShawn so much but never got the option. I just hope that Cyberpunk 2077 does not get the Mass Effect 3 DLC rain. Most DLC's there was like how it is for Cyberpunk 2077 something that must be done before the "point of no return".

And if us players must do anything before the "Hanako Arasaka point of no return" I can only see DLC's that explore alternate "routes" in the main story. And as mentioned DLC's that "continue" from the already existing ENDINGS of the game. To be blunt: - why would we want to do any other stuff? We all know about V's endings, so why do any other DLC GIG (how epic it might be) when it will not change the endings anyways.
 
I wonder, if V betray Dex, what it could happen.
V don't die ?
So the Relic is not activated ? Johnny won't be in V's head ? In fact Goro won't save V, useless to find Hellman, useless to find the VDBs, useless to speak to Hanako, impossible to meet Rogue, Kerry, River, Panam or Judy ?
Because the whole story until the end and all the characters encountered are linked to this single event... Dex shoots V in the head and the Relic is activated.
 
I wonder, if V betray Dex, what it could happen.
V don't die ?
So the Relic is not activated ? Johnny won't be in V's head ? In fact Goro won't save V, useless to find Hellman, useless to find the VDBs, useless to speak to Hanako, impossible to meet Rogue, Kerry, River, Panam or Judy ?
Because the whole story until the end and all the characters encountered are linked to this single event... Dex shoots V in the head and the Relic is activated.
CD Project RED: Witcher 2. "Over the course of the game, the paths available to Geralt multiply. The two major paths follow Geralt's choice of ally: Vernon Roche or Iorveth."

In Witcher 2 the player can quite early select who to follow, and from that point and onward the game plays out a bit differently in quests/events. I think the developers wanted to do something similar here: Pick Dexter DeShawn or Evelyn Parker. Due to time constraints Evelyn Parker's path was canned. But when looking on the E3 Cyberpunk video we can see quite clearly that the events play out approximate the same:
  • Dexter DeShawn kills V
  • Dexter DeShawn is killed by V instead of Goro Takemura
The only real big difference here is that T-BUG still is alive when going the Evelyn Parker route. But I still think the Goro Takemura junkyard scene more or less will play out the same. Maybe this time around T-BUG might be the one that is shoot by him?
 
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While I agree that not having an option to say yes to Evelyn is a bit odd, even if only for the sake of roleplaying, I'm not sure I understand why not having an option matters if everything would play out the same and V would end up in a junkyard anyway?

At best, you'd get a small sidequest with Dex coming after V for betraying him, because V would have no reason to go to No-Tell Motel and talk to him if they agreed to Evelyn's plan. They'd just go straight to her as she's the client and she'd be the one paying V (with eddies she doesn't have). But how would V end up in a landfill then?
 
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So, u go with Evelyn, steal relic, for example nothing bad happened maybe Jackie survives and u sell relic or who know what could be done with it, u never die, never meet Johnny, never meet most important characters in game, maybe u meet someone other but that would be completely new game and so hard to write story and create everything just for one dlc. I don't believe it would be done
 
You gonwith Evelyn, Evelyn betray you (Evelyn betrayed EVERYONE, you are no different), Goro kill Evelyn and the game continues as if nothing has changed.

Is just exchanging one traitor for another
 

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Not really. Pursuit after Evelyn is quite important bit of a story post Heist. I dont think that Dex would hide as doll in Clouds either ;) There are just too many things to change for this one idea so its never gonna happen. By the way, alliance with Evelyn was never planned so its not really a cut content. Heist always was to end badly and getting shot was the only start of a main story.
 
Not really. Pursuit after Evelyn is quite important bit of a story post Heist. I dont think that Dex would hide as doll in Clouds either ;) There are just too many things to change for this one idea so its never gonna happen. By the way, alliance with Evelyn was never planned so its not really a cut content. Heist always was to end badly and getting shot was the only start of a main story.

Clearly not the case according to the hype video. So what happened? Were they lying? Or being deliberately misleading?

Or is there another explanation? The most obvious possibility is that they changed the way they had planned the quest. But why would they do that at such a late stage?
 
I guess what happened was that they spend quite a lof of time preparing hype videos which not always transfer 100% into final storyline. From what Ive heard from Miles and Pawel Sasko streams , Heist was supposed to be a trainwreck (in one of the early versions because of Jackies behaviour). There was a question of how it happens, not if.
 
Clearly not the case according to the hype video. So what happened? Were they lying? Or being deliberately misleading?

Or is there another explanation? The most obvious possibility is that they changed the way they had planned the quest. But why would they do that at such a late stage?
Important to not forget :
Cyberpunk 2077 - Official 4K Cinematic Trailer | E3 2019

It obvious in a trailer you won't spoil the entire game story. So you don't show exactly what it could happen in the game. Exactly like Johnny when he said to V in the landfield "wake up samourai, we have a city to burn" (Cyberpunk 2077: Keanu Reeves Official Cinematic Trailer - E3 2019), "cut content" or a "simple" trailer ?
Seem obvious to me at least :)
 

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Clearly not the case according to the hype video. So what happened? Were they lying? Or being deliberately misleading?
Dex's betrayal has nothing to do with Evelyn, both in game and the CGI trailer. He does it because of the botched heist and the possibility of Arasaka tracking down everyone involved in it. He's simply tying up a loose end that could put him on Arasaka's radar.
 
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Important to not forget :
Cyberpunk 2077 - Official 4K Cinematic Trailer | E3 2019

It obvious in a trailer you won't spoil the entire game story. So you don't show exactly what it could happen in the game. Exactly like Johnny when he said to V in the landfield "wake up samourai, we have a city to burn" (Cyberpunk 2077: Keanu Reeves Official Cinematic Trailer - E3 2019), "cut content" or a "simple" trailer ?
Seem obvious to me at least :)

Trailers don't usually mislead you by showing you the complete opposite of what happens in the product. :)

I actually recall being mildly disappointed when playing that sequence that it's completely on-rails (you get shot by Dex no matter what you do), because I vaguely remembered the trailer.

Another drip in the drip ... drip ... drip of disappointment.
 
Wonder how many times these things will be revisited.

But for some reason I have been thinking about if some theory isn't like solid, isn't then artificial and if some application, construct is tried to made of that, isn't that then like artificial construct. No problem, cars, ships, lot's of stuff don't grow in trees and that's all fine, but what if artificial construct is just something in someone's head?

Perhaps someday somebody will make a game about that or something.
 
Haha, I remember being excited about the possibility to betray Dex - most badass fixer in town.
And that thing alone could very well play out and end in V's death. I'd understand Dex's motive to kill V more, I guess. Execution by some secret law of fixers. :D
 
currently at the moment whether you betray dex or not is completely pointless because you still get shot by him in the end. what happened to multiple paths? =(
 
That would require the heist to go correctly, and for Jackie to agree to turning on Dex, or us having to kill Jack ourselves. Plus, as others have said, Evelyn would likely take the relic, cash, and run. If she wasn't found by Arasaka and killed, she'd probably keep her head down for a bit, and sell the relic herself.
 
That would require the heist to go correctly, and for Jackie to agree to turning on Dex, or us having to kill Jack ourselves. Plus, as others have said, Evelyn would likely take the relic, cash, and run. If she wasn't found by Arasaka and killed, she'd probably keep her head down for a bit, and sell the relic herself.
That also require that Netwatch won't betray Evy, which is not guaranteed at all in view of the message on Bryce Mosley computer :D
 
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