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Do you hate unhappy endings? (spoilers)

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Happy or Sad endings?

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    Votes: 73 70.2%
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    Votes: 31 29.8%

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Queen_Skadi

Queen_Skadi

Forum regular
#1
Dec 31, 2020
Have you ever tried Disney movies? Girl meets the handsome prince, defeats the evil guy and everyone lives happily ever after! Well except for the bad guy but they don't deserve a happy ending because they are icky and mean, you don't have to watch the protagonist die of an illness and if there is an illness then it will be cured by magical unicorn farts and the only ethical quandary you will ever need to face is whether or not it is ok to violate consent to wake somebody from a coma!
 
MojoBreaker

MojoBreaker

Senior user
#2
Dec 31, 2020
i like sad endings if done very well, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater, Red Dead Redemption
 
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MRM70

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#3
Dec 31, 2020
Personally, I am fine with sad endings (after all, what are happy endings worth, if there are no bad ones). I just wonder whether it is a wise decision for a video game that wants to sell expansions ...
 
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Buckadoz

Buckadoz

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#4
Dec 31, 2020
Are sad endings automatically good?

Here's a critical thinking assignment: Why might someone love the ending of RDR2 and TLOU but hate this?
 
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Liquidcyberpunk

Liquidcyberpunk

Fresh user
#5
Dec 31, 2020
The cyberpunk universe is a dark and brutal universe. I was extremely concerned with the popularity of the genre due to seeing chibi toys and complaints that this genre has sad endings. I hope CDPR doesn't cave in to these types of fans and holds onto exploring its classic themes and world building at least for the characters sake so the stories don't feel unrealistic.
 
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Draedark

Draedark

Forum regular
#6
Dec 31, 2020
MRM70 said:
Personally, I am fine with sad endings (after all, what are happy endings worth, if there are no bad ones). I just wonder whether it is a wise decision for a video game that wants to sell expansions ...
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Maybe the expansion will be just that. Not V but your own character not directly tied to the V quest line? Sounds like a lot of folks would buy that up in a heart beat.
 
Queen_Skadi

Queen_Skadi

Forum regular
#7
Dec 31, 2020
MRM70 said:
Personally, I am fine with sad endings (after all, what are happy endings worth, if there are no bad ones). I just wonder whether it is a wise decision for a video game that wants to sell expansions ...
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I don't see why it would hamper their ability to create expansions or sequels?
 
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alebersam

alebersam

Fresh user
#8
Dec 31, 2020
I like good endings, a good ending can be happy or sad and I don't prefer one or the other, only need to be a good one
 
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Queen_Skadi

Queen_Skadi

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#9
Dec 31, 2020
Buckadoz said:
Are sad endings automatically good?

Here's a critical thinking assignment: Why might someone love the ending of RDR2 and TLOU but hate this?
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Because the protagonists survive? Of course John Marston does die in the prequel so we do know that his happy ending in RDR2 wont last too long, but hey at least you can pretend this is an alternate timeline where nothing bad happens to John right? And while Joel does die in TLOU part 2 I am sure you saw the backlash for that didn't you?
 
Witzzard

Witzzard

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#10
Dec 31, 2020
Ignoring how loaded the first post is - my answer would be i like fitting endings. Happy, Sad, Angry, Mixed, Confusing... everything when it fits the story. And when i'm wanting such a story at a time.
 
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Buckadoz

Buckadoz

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#11
Dec 31, 2020
Queen_Skadi said:
Because the protagonists survive? Of course John Marston does die in the prequel so we do know that his happy ending in RDR2 wont last too long and Joel dies in TLOU part 2 but I am sure you saw the backlash for that didn't you?
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You didn't answer my question.

John is not the protagonist of RDR2.

The main character doesn't have to die for the ending to be sad; the ending of TLOU is brutal.

Really put in a little thought here.
 
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AelaaSnow

AelaaSnow

Fresh user
#12
Dec 31, 2020
I dont mind sad endings if we have chance to achieve happy end for us in other gameplay - or at least fulfilling end somehow.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

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#13
Dec 31, 2020
Whoa! It's almost like you have more options than black and white!
 
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Queen_Skadi

Queen_Skadi

Forum regular
#14
Dec 31, 2020
Buckadoz said:
You didn't answer my question.

John is not the protagonist of RDR2.
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Sure he is mun, built a nice little farm got revenge of Micah, the story up until that point focuses on getting John Marston out of the gang so he can get his happily ever after!

Buckadoz said:
The main character doesn't have to die for the ending to be sad; the ending of TLOU is brutal.

Really put in a little thought here.
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Sure but Joel and Ellie survive so that is all that matters right? Ok sure Joel guns down a lot of people but these were all nameless mooks no different from the ones you gunned down all throughout the game, sure it turns out that the doctor is Abby's father but then nobody likes Abby so it is justified.
 
Patrik_Ku_era

Patrik_Ku_era

Fresh user
#15
Dec 31, 2020
I don't mind sad endings in games which are supposed to end bad. But if I'm playing a so called game with many choices I wish my gameplay actually mattered.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#16
Dec 31, 2020
Liquidcyberpunk said:
The cyberpunk universe is a dark and brutal universe. I was extremely concerned with the popularity of the genre due to seeing chibi toys and complaints that this genre has sad endings. I hope CDPR doesn't cave in to these types of fans and holds onto exploring its classic themes and world building at least for the characters sake so the stories don't feel unrealistic.
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Lol because realism is definitely a huge selling point of Cyberpunk, right.
 
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Buckadoz

Buckadoz

Forum regular
#17
Dec 31, 2020
Queen_Skadi said:
Sure he is mun, built a nice little farm got revenge of Micah, the story up until that point focuses on getting John Marston out of the gang so he can get his happily ever after!



Sure but Joel and Ellie survive so that is all that matters right? Ok sure Joel guns down a lot of people but these were all nameless mooks no different from the ones you gunned down all throughout the game, sure it turns out that the doctor is Abby's father but then nobody likes Abby so it is justified.
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You still haven't answered my question and you've shifted from "sad endings" to endings with dying protagonists, while also refusing to acknowledge an ending with a dying protagonist (Arthur). You aren't interested in any honest conversation and aren't worth engaging with any further.
 
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Krul2k

Krul2k

Forum regular
#18
Dec 31, 2020
Im fine with sad endings, im not fine with shite though

That said while CP2077 endings could've took alot more into consideration there not bad but there not great either there just meh, scenes need "tweaked" and more words need to be spoken if indeed this is all we get regarding the "end"

Example of a scene tweak - Nomad ending, if your in a relationship with Judy she needs to completely replace Panam in the tank for that end scene.

Example word tweak - They "last" phonecalls before you make a decision are utterly ridiculously bad with maybe the exception again funnily being Panams, a simple option just to have V state how the felt about the person?? That so hard?

Examples pointless if there plans all along was for dlc to expand it but then why put us back where they put us just to do it all again?
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#19
Dec 31, 2020
Quite frankly this post is just to taunt people. Has nothing constructive in it. Has no purpose other than let the OP gloat over how she has a "better understanding" about story telling.
Because you can only write a Disney story or a tragedy. No inbetweens? No compromise. No creativity?
 
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Liquidcyberpunk

Liquidcyberpunk

Fresh user
#20
Dec 31, 2020
Queen_Skadi said:
Because the protagonists survive? Of course John Marston does die in the prequel so we do know that his happy ending in RDR2 wont last too long and Joel dies in TLOU part 2 but I am sure you saw the backlash for that didn't you?
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Joel's death was an emotional experience for me but perfect for what it was designed for. It enhanced ellie's character and elevated Joel's status to the nurturing father figure we all dream of having. The audience could now experience what loss means yet the idea of loss is something many people don't want to face. Death isn't an easy subject to discuss. Audiences don't want be reminded that reality sucks, that people we love will die. Lou 2 is a dark world and I'm happy that they continued that journey to remain true to the story, its characters, and to hardcore fans.
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Kikinho said:
Lol because realism is definitely a huge selling point of Cyberpunk, right.
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Yes it is.
 
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