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Do you hate unhappy endings? (spoilers)

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Happy or Sad endings?

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    Votes: 81 71.1%
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    Votes: 33 28.9%

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Jiao-long

Jiao-long

Forum regular
#101
Jan 14, 2021
Every game should have this ending, period!
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mr.Boolean

mr.Boolean

Fresh user
#102
Jan 14, 2021
Its retorical question? Sure, noone like unhappy endings. That not mean thay dont have to happen.
 
Moxy3

Moxy3

Forum regular
#103
Jan 14, 2021
I dont hate unhappy endings, but if you promote this game as "your choices have impact on the outcome of the story"
then i expect to be multiple DIFFERENT endings and not 6 endings with.. the same ending?
 
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Zaccarato

Zaccarato

Forum regular
#104
Jan 14, 2021
mumia76 said:
V had no desire to be the best, only to honor Jackie. And I have no effing clue who is this Angel / Skye you refer to.
And now you are just arguing semantics. It doesn't matter if the time jump is 10 days 10 weeks or 10 years. The fact is that the game doesn't actually let you become legend of Afterlife it just tells you that V becomes that after the Arasaka raid.
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The clouds scene, when you're looking for Evelyn. Also, I think after a raid on Arasaka (and everything else V has done), there's not much to show about them becoming a legend in afterlife, because they already are lol.

mumia76 said:
So at best you can argue the ending down to ambiguous. That's still not satisfactory.
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Star is pretty damn hopeful. Sun and Devil are ambiguous sure.


mumia76 said:
I have yet to see propellant that comes out around the neck seams of the suit in a circle. I see what I see, if you have official word that what we see is something else, citation please.
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Its not coming from the neck seams. It just makes no sense thematically to kill V off there, at all. Combine that with the fact that V does not seem like they are in distress, prolly means they didn't die.


mumia76 said:
Of course V is not concerned, he/she knows he is already dead anyway. This was always planned as a suicide mission for V. You have to duck your head under a ton of sand to not see that.
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Suicide mission? Mhm, like the raid on Arasaka? You're going to be in distress if you're suit depressurises. Plus, gas escaping can be a form of pressure regulation, again, expected behaviour, hence no distress.


mumia76 said:
Because it makes no sense. I already told you, a rogue ai and the biggest company couldn't come up with a cure, but it happens to exist there, give me a break. And I don't remember anyone being confident of it.
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Play the star ending, I quote Panam. "Our people there have gotten us out of bigger cesspits than what you're in". Additionally, a cure for multiple sclerosis is advertised in game, which is similar to what V is suffering from. Arasaka is a military/AI corp, of course they're not going to know how to cure V. Biotechnica would be the ones to turn to.

mumia76 said:
I have explained it to you, I can't understand it for you. If there is no time jump then what? How do we get from Arasaka to living in a penthouse as the leader of Afterlife? Did you play out that part, because the game sure as hell didn't let me see that part.
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Rogue is dead, or retired if you do the bonus ending. You are the biggest name in afterlife. The reigns naturally fall to you, because in both cases Rogue has passed them to you. They could have had a scene or two explaining that sure, but its the natural progression, and wouldnt take that long in-game.
 
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WingedArchon

WingedArchon

Forum regular
#105
Jan 14, 2021
No, I do not hate unhappy endings.
I do have issues with conflicting or non-resolution endings.
 
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mumia76

Fresh user
#106
Jan 15, 2021
Zaccarato said:
The clouds scene, when you're looking for Evelyn. Also, I think after a raid on Arasaka (and everything else V has done), there's not much to show about them becoming a legend in afterlife, because they already are lol.
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A: I Still don't know what do you talk about.
B: I'm not going to deny my experience for your benefit. From being in basement of arasaka you jump into a penthouse, months later. That's not a jump according to you. LOL

Star is pretty damn hopeful. Sun and Devil are ambiguous sure.
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Hopeful is still ambiguous. You are content with that ending, good for you, Me and a great number of other players aren't.

Its not coming from the neck seams. It just makes no sense thematically to kill V off there, at all. Combine that with the fact that V does not seem like they are in distress, prolly means they didn't die.
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Why, because you say so? They don't even show V's face after the air escaping how do you know there is no distress? I'd wager he even deliberately opened the suit.

Suicide mission? Mhm, like the raid on Arasaka? You're going to be in distress if you're suit depressurises. Plus, gas escaping can be a form of pressure regulation, again, expected behaviour, hence no distress.
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No, not like arasaka, that's only a suicide mission in the bonus ending. And the narrative suggests this happens at or very close to the end of your 6 months life span.

Play the star ending, I quote Panam. "Our people there have gotten us out of bigger cesspits than what you're in".
Additionally, a cure for multiple sclerosis is advertised in game, which is similar to what V is suffering from. Arasaka is a military/AI corp, of course they're not going to know how to cure V. Biotechnica would be the ones to turn to.
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Because Panam is an expert and not just trying to make V feel better, right? I mean they couldn't even get an artificial kidney without V's help but they can cure V's condition. That's delusional.

Rogue is dead, or retired if you do the bonus ending. You are the biggest name in afterlife. The reigns naturally fall to you, because in both cases Rogue has passed them to you. They could have had a scene or two explaining that sure, but its the natural progression, and wouldnt take that long in-game.
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That's exactly the point. I want to experience taking over Afterlife, I want to run gigs out of there in control of V. You can argue how long is the jump it's still a jump. Much like the jump at the start of the game where you supposedly become friends with Jackie. That also would've worked much better if the game actually let you experience it instead of just telling you about it in a mashup cutscene. Because I'm telling you I've had zero attachment to Jackie and couldn't care less about him. Let alone his legacy.

Either way the whole story is weak,. It's especially weak for CDPR who are supposedly masters of storytelling.
 
Zaccarato

Zaccarato

Forum regular
#107
Jan 15, 2021
mumia76 said:
A: I Still don't know what do you talk about.
B: I'm not going to deny my experience for your benefit. From being in basement of arasaka you jump into a penthouse, months later. That's not a jump according to you. LOL
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Sorry, you evidently didn't play the game then. Hence why you must think the story is so weak.

mumia76 said:
Hopeful is still ambiguous. You are content with that ending, good for you, Me and a great number of other players aren't.
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Again, you must not have played the star ending.

mumia76 said:
Why, because you say so? They don't even show V's face after the air escaping how do you know there is no distress? I'd wager he even deliberately opened the suit.
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Definitely haven't played it. The final scene is a closeup of Vs face lol.

Are you trolling? Serious question.
 
Fuse_00

Fuse_00

Forum regular
#108
Jan 15, 2021
I'm okay with an endings. I've never except the happy end for this type of story and setting. I only wish there be more variations.
Also, I wonder what kind of story DLC will provide, since it looks like V and Johnny stories came to the end.
 
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DhampirV

Forum regular
#109
Jan 15, 2021
I no longer have patience for bleak endings, maybe because real life is already a bleak experience that tends to aggravate.
 
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VirNR

VirNR

Fresh user
#110
Jan 15, 2021
I do love happy endings, to be honest. I mean, I don't really mind a sad ending if it's well done but I always prefer to end things on a happy note. Maybe because I've had a few unhappy "endings" myself, who knows :shrug:
 
R001c

R001c

Fresh user
#111
Jan 15, 2021
I got a happy ending. It ain't over till its over and even if I only got six months well, I chose how I came into this and I chose how I went out. That's more than most of my choombas in Night City get.
 
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..Michael..

Fresh user
#112
Jan 16, 2021
Personally I don't mind a bad ending when it's at the end, very sudden. I hated playing RDR2 hearing Arthur cough, run slower and knowing he wouldn't make it. Real sense of dread playing through that.
 
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StanislavOZZO

StanislavOZZO

Forum regular
#113
Jan 16, 2021
I don't like very happy endings but I understand why many people like to have them, and why game developers cater for the majority of the players who strive to achieve the "best" outcome.

Now, try to remember all games you played and which made the most impact on you? I am sure that at least one game with a sad ending will stand out. Similarly, a sad song will probably make more impact on you than a happy one.

For me, the perfect main story ending was in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Horizon: Zero Dawn. And best endings for secondary characters were in Death Stranding.
 
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HeCatchesWaves

Fresh user
#114
Jan 16, 2021
Nowadays--I need more happy endings. I don't mind a good morality check from time to time though. Horror use to be my thing, but not anymore.
 
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jj284b

Forum veteran
#115
Jan 16, 2021
People tend to remember gut punching endings longer than happy endings... to this day i remember the shock of Sucker Punch movie ending, but i would have hard time to name a movie with a happy ending that had such impact on me...
 
Crudeo

Crudeo

Forum regular
#116
Jan 16, 2021
I don't mind a well done unhappy ending.

What i don't like are unsatisfying endings.

None feel like a real closure to the story we have played.
 
phaerakhkaryn

phaerakhkaryn

Fresh user
#117
Sunday at 12:32 PM
No i don't mind unhappy endings - i'd get instantly bored of Hollywood Formula or fairy tale bullshit. The three types of endings i hate is 'low effort deep/artistic'(unpatched mass effect), 'hollywood formula' (no explanations needed) and 'deus ex machina' (bullshit completely perpendicular to the story)

I liked both RDR2 and C77, they're good stories and endings are adequate for the story. The only reason why i would be slightly reserved about C77 ending is the fact that we know for certain about story DLCs and i really don't like the idea of a 'pre-last-mission' expansion because i consider that method as such to be an unimaginative, inferior form of storytelling.
 
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jj284b

Forum veteran
#118
Sunday at 1:04 PM
phaerakhkaryn said:
No i don't mind unhappy endings - i'd get instantly bored of Hollywood Formula or fairy tale bullshit. The three types of endings i hate is 'low effort deep/artistic'(unpatched mass effect), 'hollywood formula' (no explanations needed) and 'deus ex machina' (bullshit completely perpendicular to the story)

I liked both RDR2 and C77, they're good stories and endings are adequate for the story. The only reason why i would be slightly reserved about C77 ending is the fact that we know for certain about story DLCs and i really don't like the idea of a 'pre-last-mission' expansion because i consider that method as such to be an unimaginative, inferior form of storytelling.
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i really doubt they plan "pre-last mission" expansion... they might add expansion as addition what you can do during the game, but doubt it would be active before last mission..
After all, game actually secretly stores end game state into separate folder... why would it do that if they did not plan to capitalize on it??
 
3lmu3rt0

3lmu3rt0

Fresh user
#119
Wednesday at 4:48 AM
Why am I not surprised there are more than double the votes for happy endings? Why, the game keeps reminding us that V is but a grain of sand in the vast NC desert, but surely the PC should get special treatment and achieve a happily ever after even though we are told time and time again by all the experts that we are fucked no matter what
 
deuscaesar

deuscaesar

Fresh user
#120
Wednesday at 5:13 AM
When you speak I hear silence
Every word a defiance
I can hear, oh, I can hear
 
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