Gameplay is missing features that were promised. If they will add it in free DLCs there's absolutely no problem.
However, if DLCs are paid I will 100% be over with this whole company.
However, if DLCs are paid I will 100% be over with this whole company.
Of course.
If they add any new features to stuff unrelated to the game base game. Sure, charge for it.
Now, if they tried charging for a DLC covering, say, for example, the 6 months montage with Jackie which is very obviously cut content... yeah, I'd stand with and I'd be over with CDPR.
Will they?
Yes.
Why?
Because they built the entire CDPR brand on consumer friendliness and leaving greed to others. They understand that actions speak a lot louder than words and that in this case they only spoke a big game and did the exact thing they told off other AAA studios and publishers for.
In the investor call they spoke about the cost of fixing CP2077 being irrelevant, but really bugs are the least of it's issues. There are a ton of missing features that simply didn't make it in. And unfulfilled promises. They could easily make a come back if they wanted to. No Mans Sky managed to make one despite it being an indie studio that had absolutely no experience in making such a game.
If CDPR can't fix the issues here, they will have to pivot the entire brand identify of their company. So I suspect they will address everything. Right now the devs simply need rest after months of crunch. Once that's done probably reorganization and compiling everything into MUST FIX NOW, NEED TO FIX NOW, FIX LATER NON CRITICAL and so on.
I'd actually be shocked if CDPR doesn't respond to the issues with the game. They'd be worse than EA in my eyes if they don't. Because at least EA isn't hypocritical.
Although I don't see any issues with the endings, they were all great. And the secret ending was most certainly a happy ending so I'm not entirely sure whats going on with the complaints there.
Spoiler warning for ending but: You have all the money, power, connections and resources you could need. As well as what? 6-8 months of time? V manage to do the impossible in a week or more starting at rock bottom. If you think any about the secret ending you can easily see that... it's pretty much a happy ending. That's what it came off as to me.
Yes.
Why?
Because they built the entire CDPR brand on consumer friendliness and leaving greed to others. They understand that actions speak a lot louder than words and that in this case they only spoke a big game and did the exact thing they told off other AAA studios and publishers for.
In the investor call they spoke about the cost of fixing CP2077 being irrelevant, but really bugs are the least of it's issues. There are a ton of missing features that simply didn't make it in. And unfulfilled promises. They could easily make a come back if they wanted to. No Mans Sky managed to make one despite it being an indie studio that had absolutely no experience in making such a game.
If CDPR can't fix the issues here, they will have to pivot the entire brand identify of their company. So I suspect they will address everything. Right now the devs simply need rest after months of crunch. Once that's done probably reorganization and compiling everything into MUST FIX NOW, NEED TO FIX NOW, FIX LATER NON CRITICAL and so on.
I'd actually be shocked if CDPR doesn't respond to the issues with the game. They'd be worse than EA in my eyes if they don't. Because at least EA isn't hypocritical.
Although I don't see any issues with the endings, they were all great. And the secret ending was most certainly a happy ending so I'm not entirely sure whats going on with the complaints there.
Spoiler warning for ending but: You have all the money, power, connections and resources you could need. As well as what? 6-8 months of time? V manage to do the impossible in a week or more starting at rock bottom. If you think any about the secret ending you can easily see that... it's pretty much a happy ending. That's what it came off as to me.
That's true. I guess we'll have to wait and see how things work out.
I respect that and whilst it is incredibly frustrating, I will wait for their response.
My only request on that: There is quite a number of people who have come to the forum to voice, to engage in discussion and state what they would like as a solution. There is very little outright 'CDPR sucks' mentality and I doubt many of these people went straight for a refund, instead choose to keep some faith and wait it out. I just hope CDPR respond with the same sincerity and passion, not as Vejsa comments with generic PR releases.
In my opinion, they won't respond. They'll fix most game breaking bugs, because they are causing them financial disaster, but no fundamental flaws will be fixed, starting with the false advertisement, which states that CP77 was supposed to be an RPG. Maybe they change AI a bit to stop it being ridiculously atrocious, but making it good is not in their plans. It's difficult to do and they didn't manage to do it in 4+ years.
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I am not as optimistic.
It is exactly their self-branding as a consumer friendly, non-greed company that ignited such disappointment from fans, who felt betrayed by a company they once trusted. On top of that, restoring their reputation would take much more than bug fixies (which is already a tall order). It requires adding back in the stuff that was promised but not delivered. Nothing short of making Night City "the most believable city in an open world game to date" would do. But that is extremely difficult. Unlike No Man's Sky, which mostly needed added content, Night City needs an entire new AI system, police/wanted system, and meaningful quest choices to become what it was promised to be.
Facing such mounting difficulty, it is possible that CDPR might find it all the easier to bite the bullet and let their reputation take a hit than to make CP2077 what it was promised to be. I hope that is not the case, but I am holding my expectations in check.
Game should have been in development for at least one more year. I hope CDPR work on the base game as the state of it is just Alpha version, focus on this before you focus on DLC and Multiplayer please. The Devs obviously had a lot of pressure and internal management was forced to play certain hands that they should have folded, fear of backlash and even so far as fanatical threats caused this rush to release. At this point and time I enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 and can see the potential for it to be one of the greatest RPG games of the modern era the mix of gta and borderlands style gameplay meet dying light mechanics and crafting, add in the CDPR touch we love and you get Cyberpunk 2077. Since the nail has hit the coffin it's time for CDPR to take their Frankenstein and make it the best it was meant to be, again focus on the base game, rework and fix it first and foremost over the production on DLC and Multiplayer. If they do this and then flesh out DLC and Multiplayer after then we will not need to worry about those as much. I will not refund to continue to get analytical data from my gameplay to the Devs to increase the overall quality and submit feedback throughout these trying times. Have a Happy Holidays to all and be safe and healthy. To the devs who spent countless hours busting their asses to get this out to a somewhat enjoyable experience per story thank you.
You don't sound like a CDPR representative to me so I don't care lmao
I don't need any responses to criticisms, I just want to know what they're planning to do with the game next. Should we wait for anything outside bugfixes or they're done with it... When The Witcher 3 came out, I think we knew almost right away there are two expansions in the making. In case of CP77, there's only anime series scheduled for whatever year and that's it. Utter emptiness.
So, would they kindly...
So, would they kindly...
Where is the advertisement department now? It said pretty much before the release
If they care about their fanbase they will. I had problems with TW3 at launch and it ended up becoming one of my favorite games. Ive played through it at least 10 times. Only time will tell,the game hasnt been out that long. Id like to imagine they are hard at work doing their best to get all this bs ironed out so everyone can have the true experience they were promised.
No, no they won't. They'll pretend like everything is hunky-dory when the bloody thing will be even remotely playable.
Well, it's a looter shooter with linear story... doesn't get more mainstream then that, honestly.
I'd rather them quiet and updating the game than constantly spewing words about how there going to do this or that.
Im interested in results not reading some tripe corp pr speak.
They owe me nothing, bugs an crashes aside i've completed the game twice, frustrated for the most part but i still had/have a no bad time in game, especially compared to some ppl, an with Christmas coming up i've no time to piss an moan over a game over the internet, although no doubt i'll post something regarding a frustrating bug or crash that got me going arggggghhhh tbh i'd rather just try an post something positive an fun because the game still has those moments, brief though they may be
Im interested in results not reading some tripe corp pr speak.
They owe me nothing, bugs an crashes aside i've completed the game twice, frustrated for the most part but i still had/have a no bad time in game, especially compared to some ppl, an with Christmas coming up i've no time to piss an moan over a game over the internet, although no doubt i'll post something regarding a frustrating bug or crash that got me going arggggghhhh tbh i'd rather just try an post something positive an fun because the game still has those moments, brief though they may be
What are you even talking about mate? This is the most mainstream game from an RPG game developer. Ffs, it feels like a GTA clone mixed with Borderlands (substract all the fun/crazy characters and shit to do)
I will answer Yes and NO.
Patience means that it will take months to make all corrections needed. I may say Years.
The only way to save this game is MODDING and to open the game to the Modders. By the way i do not know yet if modding possibility will give us a way to do so like in Skyrim and if RED will give us a way /tool to do it....