Pure fantasy right here.
If you think ANYONE is going to PAY MORE for content that was promised for the initial launch of the game, you're smoking some good shit dude. Even attempting some bogus bullshit move like that would be corporate suicide. I don't give a rats ass about multiplayer. I bought this game for the single-player content that was advertised. And I better get it for the game I ALREADY PAID FOR "BEFORE" it's offered in ANY other format. Multiplayer or otherwise.
To me this is not just about salvage, it's about much more than that, the amount of heat and negative feedback they would receive, if they just patch up the game and announce that they are working on a MP version. Would put this company in a worse light than EA by far in my opinion. And a studio with so few titles under their belt, im not sure that would work out as well.
The situation as I see it, have two or more sides. Not only did they release it in a really bad state and basically lied about it both to players, but also investors. The other thing is that hardly anything they promoted the game would contain is in it and I think that pisses off players just as much. So if they simply did that, no one in their right mind would trust any statement coming from CDPR, almost all goodwill towards the company from most people would be gone.
We all know that companies release cool looking cinematic videos of their newest games, but everything can look good in that, even if its turns out it's a pixel game and the cinematic show a highly detailed 3d cinematic. But CDPR have released one video after another with ingame content and telling people how complex this story is, how advance the crowd AI system is. How you could customize cars and the list is long. No one would care, if they had said that we are making CP a new action adventure game, where you follow the story of a Merc called V, fair enough no problem. But it weren't what they were saying and obviously also why investors are making lawsuits against them.
So it's not that easy for them to just move on to a MP game as I see it and just pretend like this never happened, they screwed up big time and they need to figure out how to best fix and make up for it, and hopefully they have a plan, but if that plan is to just move on, then I don't think we have even seen the top of the iceberg in regards to what feedback they are going to get, because it will be really bad.
There's nothing suggesting to me that the current iteration of this game even has the infrastructure to build MP let alone having it become some mega hit cash cow like GTAV. They need to get single player actually working before they should even think about MP.. trying to insert some flimsy MP elements into the game would do more harm than good.
They'll just do minor patches of the singleplayer while de-facto moving on to the MP, and will just tell you they're fixing the SP.
A lot of the changes people are requesting as "fixes" are actually full features that have been outright cut from the game. Adding them back in requires rethinking major portions of the game. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry.
A lot of the changes people are requesting as "fixes" are actually full features that have been outright cut from the game. Adding them back in requires rethinking major portions of the game. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry.
Given CDPR's experience with multiplayer, I expect the launch, if and when it comes, to be pretty hilarious. Bethesda at least had their experience crafting open world content to lean on.
As to whether it will be a cash cow, the potential is there given the single player install base.
As to whether it will be a cash cow, the potential is there given the single player install base.
A lot of gamers?
You seem to ignore that most gamers have principles.... until someone else is playing the game
I wouldn't, and you wouldn't (maybe, I don't know you) but to say no one would is completely false.
Nor am I saying it WOULD happen. Just that it very well could considering how gamers are.
Enough to support the game through multiple DLCs? Doubtful. Sure. "Some" would. That's typical. Don't read everything so literally.A lot of gamers?
You seem to ignore that most gamers have principles.... until someone else is playing the game
I wouldn't, and you wouldn't (maybe, I don't know you) but to say no one would is completely false.
Nor am I saying it WOULD happen. Just that it very well could considering how gamers are.
Like Mobster100 stated right after me:
And like I said..... "corporate suicide". Release the "as advertised" game in multiplayer format while ignoring the single player game everyone waited all these years for? Think the demands for refunds is bad now? LOL..... we ain't seen nothin' yet.
**Edit 2: Just to leave this as the first thing you read, as many people have pointed out and as something I did NOT know before making this thread, is that the Multiplayer will be made by a secondary team. It's relevant to the people who might believe this would take some core CDPR staff from fixing the game to work on this mode, which seems to not be the case.
First I want to say that if you wish and intend on enjoying the supposed Multiplayer that maybe will come out in 2022 I wish you all the best and have fun, but with that being said I see a lot of people either here or somewhere else saying that: "Hopefully everything that was promised and not delivered will be in the Multiplayer when it's out".
So, am i the only one wishing that is not the case? That if CDPR can actually pull it off and implement not all because I feel that's impossible, but most of the features that are seemingly missing from the game, are actually implemented in the "60$" single-player game we paid for?
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind multiplayer focused games, but I have no intentions in buying said version of Cyberpunk, even less so if the features I was looking forward to are there, since they were promised somewhere else.
I'm not looking for what or who is to blame here for said discrepancies, there are more than enough threads about it, but I feel like if that ends up happening we will be incentivising the investors and other money people to try and push CDPR into the GTA route, where all the great stuff instead of being sent to or even shared with the single-player mode/game, is rather entirely restricted to the Online mode.
It's obvious that Rockstar has not released story expansions anymore (Like TBOGT with GTA IV or Undead Nightmare for RDR 1) like many want because GTA:O is literally a golden cash cow for them. So imagine what would happen if not only the mode that has been confirmed to have microtransactions sees a huge influx of players and possible paying players, because what was "missing" from SP is now in this online version of Cyberpunk?
Anyway, what you guys think? Once again, I'm not trying to force people to dislike the idea of a MP mode, just saying my thoughts here and why I personally won't support such thing.
*Edit: Changed stripped to missing, after thinking a little about it it would be unfair to say/imply CDPR willfully removed aspects of the game out of spite rather than running out of time due to the numerous reasons people have already mentioned everywhere.
First I want to say that if you wish and intend on enjoying the supposed Multiplayer that maybe will come out in 2022 I wish you all the best and have fun, but with that being said I see a lot of people either here or somewhere else saying that: "Hopefully everything that was promised and not delivered will be in the Multiplayer when it's out".
So, am i the only one wishing that is not the case? That if CDPR can actually pull it off and implement not all because I feel that's impossible, but most of the features that are seemingly missing from the game, are actually implemented in the "60$" single-player game we paid for?
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind multiplayer focused games, but I have no intentions in buying said version of Cyberpunk, even less so if the features I was looking forward to are there, since they were promised somewhere else.
I'm not looking for what or who is to blame here for said discrepancies, there are more than enough threads about it, but I feel like if that ends up happening we will be incentivising the investors and other money people to try and push CDPR into the GTA route, where all the great stuff instead of being sent to or even shared with the single-player mode/game, is rather entirely restricted to the Online mode.
It's obvious that Rockstar has not released story expansions anymore (Like TBOGT with GTA IV or Undead Nightmare for RDR 1) like many want because GTA:O is literally a golden cash cow for them. So imagine what would happen if not only the mode that has been confirmed to have microtransactions sees a huge influx of players and possible paying players, because what was "missing" from SP is now in this online version of Cyberpunk?
Anyway, what you guys think? Once again, I'm not trying to force people to dislike the idea of a MP mode, just saying my thoughts here and why I personally won't support such thing.
*Edit: Changed stripped to missing, after thinking a little about it it would be unfair to say/imply CDPR willfully removed aspects of the game out of spite rather than running out of time due to the numerous reasons people have already mentioned everywhere.
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Well multiplayer could actually be good on this map... depends on how it is implemented. I for one do not like multiplayer (too much toxicity... myself included) but imagining real people acting/cooperating/fighting in this setting instead of non existing ai does have at least some potential (not for me but other might certainly enjoy it)!
Agreed.
I specifically bought this game for the single-player story-driven RPG. So I would be kind of disappointed that they would put time and resources into adding multiplayer, instead of improving the base game.
I mean, they are not mutually exclusive, but I don't personally see multiplayer as any kind of priority,
I specifically bought this game for the single-player story-driven RPG. So I would be kind of disappointed that they would put time and resources into adding multiplayer, instead of improving the base game.
I mean, they are not mutually exclusive, but I don't personally see multiplayer as any kind of priority,
Oh, absolutely, but that's the same with GTA:O, when it works and you can get in a nice session with chill people, it is a great experience. But more often than not you are thrown into servers with all ranges of players and that makes the lobby an almost living hell. And that's not even mentioning the fact that CDPR hasn't messed with a MP before (To my knowledge), so cheating online feels like will be a huge problem, and if there isn't some sort of TK or PK protection, I can already see the amount of headache that will cause.
I'm mostly un-interested because of the above mentioned persoanl experience with GTA:O and also as I said, I don't want to see what could've been the SP only be realised on a MP I don't intend on touching.
Well as far as i understood it... the multiplayer aspect is being worked on separately by a different team using their own resources, so nothing is being "taken away" from the single player experience. As difficult as it is to believe that (given the state of the game) i do not believe that the work being done on multiplayer does in anyway impede the work on the single player part of the game (except for the money being spend, but that has already been decided years ago)!
It's not zero sum, many of the things that would need to be developed for a MP mode to have any staying power are features that the SP experience lacks. Not to say that the most glaring SP issues would be resolved purely integrating MP content but a synergy exists. the difference between rockstar and cdpr in this case is that GTA was released in a more complete state and rockstar was under no perceived obligation to continue working on it.
On the other hand CDPR are performing triage on what was expected to be their magnum opus and will be looking to rebuild their brand, MP could bankroll the work needed for cdpr to finally deliver on the promises that were made and provide bonus depth to the SP experience.
On the other hand CDPR are performing triage on what was expected to be their magnum opus and will be looking to rebuild their brand, MP could bankroll the work needed for cdpr to finally deliver on the promises that were made and provide bonus depth to the SP experience.
You're definitetely not the only one not looking forward to multiplayer. Even when I played MMORPG's I usually just played solo anyway. So yeah, couldn't care less if they make MP here or not. What I am looking forward to is bug fixes, overall polish of the game and bringing back all the content that was clearly cut out from the game to release it this year.
Multipler makes me mixed. The problem with a lot of multipler games is the hacks, cheats, etc that get used by players who just want to troll.
I would be perfectly fine with multipler if they private servers and where you can only play with your friends, or like a good system like Genshin Impact where for most of it, it's single player -but- you can join peoples 'world' and fight things in that realm.
I would be perfectly fine with multipler if they private servers and where you can only play with your friends, or like a good system like Genshin Impact where for most of it, it's single player -but- you can join peoples 'world' and fight things in that realm.
Yeah, that makes sense actually.
I don't have anything against multiplayer existing for those who want it. I'm just not interested, mainly for the same reason you described.
I honestly don't care abut the MP. I don't know why this game needs one and the devs have their plate full with a messy game that needs more attention on fixing and adding content to it. Besides, what kind of MP they will have?
I wouldn't say I'm dreading multi-player. But yeah, definitely not looking forward to it. Especially if it ends up following the Grand Theft Auto Online formula.
My love of this game is mostly based on the source material. So, if the DCL from CDprojectRed doesn't scratch that itch the way the base game managed to, I'm perfectly content in falling back to the pen and paper RPG to get my fix.
My love of this game is mostly based on the source material. So, if the DCL from CDprojectRed doesn't scratch that itch the way the base game managed to, I'm perfectly content in falling back to the pen and paper RPG to get my fix.