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Veleda.980

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#2,561
Sep 25, 2014
They've brought back the huge pauldrons, eh. *sigh*
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#2,562
Sep 25, 2014
Cormacolindor said:
DA isn't meant to be ultra realistic like the Witcher.
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and yet Ciri has high heels

at least Bioware is smart enough not to put those on their female swordsmen
 
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Aaden

Rookie
#2,563
Sep 25, 2014
C0bR said:
You have to notice at least 3 completly fucked up things in that picture (and I don't mean the character model).
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Quiver on the wrong side to comfortably draw an arrow from it, bowstring above wrist (now THAT is completely ridiculous and a major oversight), that handguard thing might both prevent aiming properly and hinder the arrow's flight, the string does not seem to be attached to the bow at all, the string has a very strange and unnatural bend in the lower half, the ends seem very thin (not sure if possible to attach string to it), a bow that short without recurve or anything would probably not deliver a whole lot of force (although it depends on the material, of course).

What do I win? :p
 
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C0bR

Senior user
#2,564
Sep 25, 2014
aaden said:
Quiver on the wrong side to comfortably draw an arrow from it, bowstring above wrist (now THAT is completely ridiculous and a major oversight), that handguard thing might both prevent aiming properly and hinder the arrow's flight, the string does not seem to be attached to the bow at all, the string has a very strange and unnatural bend in the lower half, the ends seem very thin (not sure if possible to attach string to it), a bow that short without recurve or anything would probably not deliver a whole lot of force (although it depends on the material, of course).

What do I win? :p
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you missed arrow notched on the wrong side:troll:
 
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Aaden

Rookie
#2,565
Sep 25, 2014
C0bR said:
you missed arrow notched on the wrong side:troll:
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Not sure what you mean. The arrow lying on top of the tilted bow is fine and the tilt is in the right direction. Don't know if there's anything wrong with the actual nock of the arrow or the way she handles it with her right hand - not an expert on the subject. :hmm:
 
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C0bR

Senior user
#2,566
Sep 25, 2014
aaden said:
Not sure what you mean. The arrow lying on top of the tilted bow is fine and the tilt is in the right direction. Don't know if there's anything wrong with the actual nock of the arrow or the way she handles it with her right hand - not an expert on the subject. :hmm:
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Yeah, you're right

My bad, don't know what I was looking at:facepalm:
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#2,567
Sep 25, 2014
Could be the art snob in me showing but it seems like a poor quality render coming from a major AAA studio.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#2,568
Sep 25, 2014
C0bR said:
Meanwhile in the land where people don't know how to either make a bow or how to shoot from it



You have to notice at least 3 completly fucked up things in that picture (and I don't mean the character model).
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Lol that is ridiculous. Arrow couldn't shoot nearly straight, and that bowstring defies laws of physics and shouldn't even be there still. Lazy.

Not to mention the thing looks pathetic. Like a child's toy.
 
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Unkindled

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#2,569
Sep 25, 2014
guipit said:
and yet Ciri has high heels

at least Bioware is smart enough not to put those on their female swordsmen
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But not their space marine soldiers. *Cough* Ashley *COUGH* Williams
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#2,570
Sep 25, 2014
Unkindled said:
But not their space marine soldiers. *Cough* Ashley *COUGH* Williams
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haha you've got a sharp eye I didn't even notice her,she's such a minor character. I didn't even use her in my team in ME3
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#2,571
Sep 25, 2014
guipit said:
haha you've got a sharp eye I didn't even notice her,she's such a minor character. I didn't even use her in my team in ME3
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Not so sharp, I was simply a big fan of hers in 1, so I paid more attention to her. I was pretty pissed when they dolled her up and turned her into a Kardashian. :( She was badass to me before. Not at all now.
 
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goopit

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#2,572
Sep 25, 2014
Unkindled said:
Not so sharp, I was simply a big fan of hers in 1, so I paid more attention to her. I was pretty pissed when they dolled her up and turned her into a Kardashian. :( She was badass to me before. Not at all now.
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you're not the only one who watched the series go to shit haha I'm sure a lot of people here share your pain
 
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Unkindled

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#2,573
Sep 25, 2014
guipit said:
you're not the only one who watched the series go to shit haha I'm sure a lot of people here share your pain
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I don't think it went to shit despite things like that royally pissing me off. To be honest, after that free dlc that added to the ending came out, I think Mass Effect turned out to be one of the best gaming series out there. It's certainly one of my favorites and always will be.

Even though 3 made me start from the beginning, romance Liara, and then let Ashley die on Virmire to preserve her awesomeness. Rest in pieces, marine. Badass way to go.
 
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octavian123

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#2,574
Sep 25, 2014
aaden said:
Quiver on the wrong side to comfortably draw an arrow from it, bowstring above wrist (now THAT is completely ridiculous and a major oversight), that handguard thing might both prevent aiming properly and hinder the arrow's flight, the string does not seem to be attached to the bow at all, the string has a very strange and unnatural bend in the lower half, the ends seem very thin (not sure if possible to attach string to it), a bow that short without recurve or anything would probably not deliver a whole lot of force (although it depends on the material, of course).

What do I win? :p
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I suppose it might offend people who know all the intricacies of armor and weapon designs but for for people who don't really know that stuff it is convincing enough. I didn't even notice all the stuff you pointed.

Even the Witcher is guilty of stuff like this like Ciri's heels, Saskia's armor and her not wearing a helmet. Maybe a helmet would have deflected Henselt's blow and she could have killed him,
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#2,575
Sep 25, 2014
Cormacolindor said:
I suppose it might offend people who know all the intricacies of armor and weapon designs but for for people who don't really know that stuff it is convincing enough. I didn't even notice all the stuff you pointed.

Even the Witcher is guilty of stuff like this like Ciri's heels, Saskia's armor and her not wearing a helmet. Maybe a helmet would have deflected Henselt's blow and she could have killed him,
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The only real problem I see with Saskia's armor is their need to expose her sternum for the sake of bewbz.



More noticeable in game. However, I can forgive it only because it's not nearly as bad as what I've seen elsewhere. At least she has armor and didn't come out in her night clothes. Isabella....

But yes, I really wish they just covered up her midsection, though this isn't about Witcher vs Dragon Age. Well, not for ME anyway.

The helmet thing though isn't really a point to me. Some people give up a helmet for field of vision, though they do have helmets that don't sacrifice that. We've seen soldiers in history though that choose to fight without them, so it's whatever to me.

Again though, I would like to see her with one in battle.
 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#2,576
Sep 25, 2014
Unkindled said:
The only real problem I see with Saskia's armor is their need to expose her sternum for the sake of bewbz.



More noticeable in game. However, I can forgive it only because it's not nearly as bad as what I've seen elsewhere. At least she has armor and didn't come out in her night clothes. Isabella....

But yes, I really wish they just covered up her midsection, though this isn't about Witcher vs Dragon Age. Well, not for ME anyway.

The helmet thing though isn't really a point to me. Some people give up a helmet for field of vision, though they do have helmets that don't sacrifice that. We've seen soldiers in history though that choose to fight without them, so it's whatever to me.

Again though, I would like to see her with one in battle.
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It is about TW vs DA but indirectly :p. This whole thread is just that.

I would forgive Saskia's armor if it was in a DA game as the style kinda reminds me of DA (and no this is not some sort of veiled jab at TW) and DA is not as realistic as TW but in a game like TW that prides itself on realism the flaw is more annoying.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#2,577
Sep 25, 2014
Cormacolindor said:
It is about TW vs DA but indirectly :p. This whole thread is just that.

I would forgive Saskia's armor if it was in a DA game as the style kinda reminds me of DA (and no this is not some sort of veiled jab at TW) and DA is not as realistic as TW but in a game like TW that prides itself on realism the flaw is more annoying.
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Them priding themselves on realism is honestly news to me. Where'd that come from in a game with mutants, sorceresses, trolls, etc?

The only reason I'm less critical of The Witcher is because there's not nearly as much silly shit as in DA, and although DA isn't a game meant to be taken seriously to that degree, they take things too far sometimes.

But there's no way people can act as if Witcher has a moral high ground on what I'd call artistic freedom.
 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#2,578
Sep 25, 2014
Unkindled said:
Them priding themselves on realism is honestly news to me. Where'd that come from in a game with mutants, sorceresses, trolls, etc?

The only reason I'm less critical of The Witcher is because there's not nearly as much silly shit as in DA, and although DA isn't a game meant to be taken seriously to that degree, they take things too far sometimes.

But there's no way people can act as if Witcher has a morale high ground on what I'd call artistic freedom.
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Just because it has mutants, sorcereces and trolls does NOT mean is not serious. The feeling I get from the Witcher is "what if we took the middle ages as they really were and what if all the legends and myths were true?" It explores the "silly" things you pointed in a way that is believable, which is what makes it different from all other fantasy games. For the people of the Witcher world the monsters and sorceresses are really just animals and another function of society. For us, they are new and exotic but still believable.

I hope this makes sense.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#2,579
Sep 25, 2014
Cormacolindor said:
Just because it has mutants, sorcereces and trolls does NOT mean is not serious. The feeling I get from the Witcher is "what if we took the middle ages as they really were and what if all the legends and myths were true?" It explores the "silly" things you pointed in a way that is believable, which is what makes it different from all other fantasy games. For the people of the Witcher world the monsters and sorceresses are really just animals and another function of society. For us, they are new and exotic but still believable.
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I'm not saying it's not meant to be taken seriously, I'm saying that just because it's less fantasy, I guess I could say, than Dragonage, with a less (cartoonish?) feel to it, doesn't mean it's exempt from having some of those elements present.

In other words, I don't think anyone can knock them for Saskia's armor because it's not like the game comes out saying "ultra realistic and accurate medieval attire", it's simply an artistic choice the devs made and occasionally break. And because Witcher is so much more mature overall in attire, story and atmosphere, things like Saskia's armor are a lot easier for me to forgive here, compared to Dragon Age, where I can go on all day about silly stuff that's just too stupid to entertain.
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#2,580
Sep 25, 2014
Each new thing Bioware reveals makes this game even less interesting.

I can put up with silly and corny fantasy (I actually enjoyed Origins) but this is too over the top for an RPG. It's core elements don't make sense: lacks proper motives and coherence (mage banished from the land of whatever-it-takes for being gay!?) and the series mechanics became a complete nerd fest (remember the teleport backstab from DA2? Good job nullifying tactical positioning). It's not even about realism for me, it's about playing a game that doesn't feel like it was designed by an 11 year old with a social agenda.

Too bad, I thought this might be their comeback.
 
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