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arkblazer

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#4,241
Nov 8, 2014
Say all of you what you will about DA:I, i honestly cant wait for the 18th. The whole Gameplay element Of being a commander of an army , having a customization HQ Really reminds me alot to my favorite JRPG of all times. plus some of its other elements are reminding me of WH. At the very least im hoping this game will keep me occupied for three months.
 
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octavian123

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#4,242
Nov 8, 2014
MP looks very fun. Very much reminds me of WoW dungeons. Hope they add 8 man raids in a patch. Just in case you are wondering, they are playing on Xbox and on Easy.

http://www.twitch.tv/bioware/c/5445932
 
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Unkindled

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#4,243
Nov 8, 2014
Costin said:
Your point being what exactly? Don't talk about games you don't like and so on?
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No, I think the point was that people so determined to tell someone their opinion is wrong:
Costin said:
Good on you :) Bloth is still right that they are squeeing morons.


I can, and they weren't about saving the world and yet they had not only BETTER companions in same cases but also a good story.
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Really need to grab a beer, maybe look up at the stars, take a deep breath and calm the fuck down. Life's too short to take videogames this seriously. You have an opinion, jack. Not a fact, not even a theoretical principal. Perhaps you should remember that, so maybe next time you'll understand you don't have to crap on someone else's opinion in order to discuss videogames.
 
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Elegast7

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Nov 8, 2014
 
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Veleda.980

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#4,245
Nov 8, 2014
Costin said:
The game presenting certain choices with outcomes that can be very positive does not make your character intelligent, no more then it does Shepard.

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You've spent a lot of steam on an irrelevant point. The Warden is irrelevant. But if the Warden is a moron, then Hawke is 100x moreso, which was THE WHOLE POINT.

And if I ever do play the game, I just hope we can tell Hawke to crawl back into whatever Fade rift she came out of.
 
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Luxorek

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#4,246
Nov 8, 2014

Really like what I'm hearing. Literally.
 
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octavian123

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#4,247
Nov 8, 2014
Reviews coming up in 3 days. That's a really good thing. It shows BioWare are confident in their product and people won't have to just get the game out of the blue.
 
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Unkindled

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#4,248
Nov 8, 2014
That or they're confident that the reviews will be positive as per some sort of agreement. Not saying that's the case, but after Shadows of Mordor's thing, I'm not gonna be surprised. Joe getting the game early has me wondering as well, but I'm pretty sure if anyone's not going to accept such an agreement, or let early access influence his opinion, it's going to be him.

But, not gonna be surprised. I'm still going to wait for initial reviews after launch, and especially for impressions here after people have finished the game.
 
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PrincessCiri

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#4,249
Nov 8, 2014
Lol tbh regardless of the reviews I won't be cancelling my pre-order. My love for Cullen is too strong.

I'll be sure to let you all know what I think of the game, although considering I enjoyed DA2 I'm not sure how many of you will value my review, lmao.
 
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Unkindled

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#4,250
Nov 8, 2014
Lol well I'm expecting a wave of cynicism, so I need opinions on both sides of the fence to make an accurate judgement for myself. If you say the game sucks though, then I know it sucks.
 
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Luxorek

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#4,251
Nov 8, 2014

Same old Hinterlands, but in glorious 1080p 60FPS.
 
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PrincessCiri

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#4,252
Nov 8, 2014
Unkindled said:
Lol well I'm expecting a wave of cynicism, so I need opinions on both sides of the fence to make an accurate judgement for myself. If you say the game sucks though, then I know it sucks.
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yeah forreal if I say the game is unplayable you can know for sure it's trash.
 
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Phinnway

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#4,253
Nov 8, 2014
Brigid said:
That said, the current Bioware stories aren’t innovative because they really are just the backdrop for the characters.
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I just want to point out that stories in general tend not to be innovative. I mean, it's not really a word you should use in reference to writing. Most stories reuse the same archetypes but with a different slant.

Anyways, I suppose BioWare could write a story with different archetypes if they wanted to. But I think they're kind of stuck in a rut because they base all their characters on the D&D morality system. http://kimkiminy.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/alignment_chart_by_movies.jpg
 
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Eversong

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#4,254
Nov 8, 2014
Honestly at this point I don't expect Bioware to introduce something revolutionary into the game industry. They have their formula, which brought them success before and they stick to it. And that makes sense, why wouldn't they? Especially as EA expects them to turn a good profit. And they have quite the fanbase that waits for those
squeeing moron characters and dating sim aspects
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I mean
on the first few pages in that BSN thread, which revealed the achivements, most frequently asked question was who's sitting with whom on romance achievement screenshot.
But seeing as how their stories are not very intricate, I would really like if they had no stupid hiccups in them and retcons coming later. And while their product is not something I would preorder, and most likely will just pick up on sale, sometimes it's exactly something I'm in the mood for.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#4,255
Nov 8, 2014
They really didn't need to do anything revolutionary. Like it said on that video, all people really wanted was an updated Origins. All they had to do was stick with that formula. I might've even pre-ordered if they did.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

Rookie
#4,256
Nov 8, 2014
I strongly disagree with the idea that one was not given the opportunity to play a competent and intelligent Warden.

First of all, it seems that some criticize not the Warden as a PC, but rather the concept of a blank slate silent PC. It is inevitable that a lot of head role playing would happen, that's the point. It is the case with KOTOR, with Jade Empire, with Mount and Blade, with Elder Scrolls games...etc. Heck, even some talking PCs, without some head role play, would be dull. Michael Thorton, for instance, while capable of great cunning and intelligence that is unparalleled, would be a boring ass character with no personality if you don't role play and fill in the gaps. One may find a blank slate not to their liking, and that is legitimate, but they shouldn't confuse criticizing it and criticizing a specific blank slate PC, as it's not the same issue.

But even within the game, with all role play aside, we have a number of opportunities for the Warden to be pro-active and intelligent:
- small, but to me an important thing, the Warden can be an expert potion, trap, or poison maker.
- If one invests in cunning, the Warden is able to understand certain situations or characters very pertinently.
- With certain dialogue options, the Warden can demonstrate understanding of a situation (for instance, knowing that Ostagar seems to be a lost cause way before the battle starts).
- the Warden can finance the armies they gathered.
- On a tactical level, while of course they are no tactician, we are still left with the option to choose which army to summon in Denerim, which does make a difference.
- In addition, it is the warden who decides whether to eliminate the darkspawn generals in Denerim, or head straight for the keep, pros and cons for each choice.
- the Warden can set up the defense in Redcliffe, which they don't have to do, suggesting the usage of burning oil for instance, as well as securing equipment, fighters, and morale.
- The Warden can proactively come up with the choice of acquiring werewolves, which no one tells you is an option.
- while the Warden does not really participate in Orzammar politics (and expecting them to is nonsense actually) , they can still make both sides think they are an ally and get an audience with both, to weigh one's options.
- They can make themselves chancellor to a weak Alistair. No one tells you that is an option, and if you confine yourself to what you are told, it would be Eamon as chancellor.
- The Warden can suggest marriage with Anora, again an option no one tells you is possible. Indeed, you have to persuade Anora of it.
- The Warden is also the one to come up with the idea and suggest marriage between Alistair and Anora. No one tells them to.
- They can also play Anora, by promising support, and then backstabbing her in the Landsmeet.
- The Warden can ensure a peaceful transition of power, if they get prior support and if they know which arguments to pick in the Landsmeet (you'd be surprised how many botched that part).
- They can become chancellor or Teyrn of Gwaren of their own volition, with no one telling them that they can. Indeed, they can become Prince-Consort and Teyrn of Gwaren simultaneously.
- They can engage in politics and meting out justice in Awakening, including settling disputes, dealing with opposition, and maintaining order and discipline.
- While military decisions are very limited, they can still decide where they want to concentrate their forces, which has a small effect on the battle of Amaranthine (less soldiers if you don't reinforce the city).
- The Warden can save both the city and the keep, which no one tells you outright it is an option (most people I know didn't know they could). It may seem trivial in hindsight, but when playing for the first time, it was a dilemma as you have absolutely no idea whether the Keep would hold or not. It was a judgement call on the part of the Warden, and they can be potentially right, if they were diligent enough.

These are some examples of us being able to play a Warden with some competence and intelligence, in a leadership position. Of course, the Warden doesn't come anywhere close to someone like Michael Thorton, or even Revan in KOTOR1 in a lot of respects. And yes, the Warden is forced to do idiotic things demanded by the plot, which poorly justifies them. They are far from being the perfect PCs in a perfect plot. That however does not negate what the player can do with the Warden, purely in-game. To suggest otherwise is an exaggeration that is difficult to take seriously.

As for military leadership, even wargames like Total War very poorly grasp warfare, so I am not expecting RPGs to implement it well.
 
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jerf.674

Forum veteran
#4,257
Nov 8, 2014
Just to let you know:

The Last Court, a text adventure from Failbetter Games, the creators of Sunless Sea and Fallen London, is now available for everyone to play for free on the Dragon Age Keep website. In this adventure you assume the role of an Orlesian noble.
In order to play it, log in to the Keep, press the button in the top left corner and choose "The Last Court".
 
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PrincessCiri

PrincessCiri

Rookie
#4,258
Nov 8, 2014
[video=youtube;8_CApsY-K6c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_CApsY-K6c[/video]

Iron Bull's character video is out!!!
Didn't enjoy it as much as Vivienne's but Iron Bull's character has never been the most interesting to me, anyway.
 
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octavian123

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#4,259
Nov 8, 2014
I liked it.
 
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Luxorek

Forum veteran
#4,260
Nov 8, 2014
Sounded almost like Arnold, when he said 'clean up and clear out'.
 
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