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kofeiiniturpa

kofeiiniturpa

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#1,841
Jun 5, 2020
I don’t find this much better than the first one, I’m a bit sorry to say. For a metalhead it’s just wet noodle level of meh. No catchy melodies or riffs. No punch in the sound or performance. Not very complex composition either. It almost sounds as if the band is a bit bored.

Well, anyway... Maybe I’m a bit too demanding. It’s a rock-song for a game soundtrack afterall. And at least it wasn’t a rap or hip hop track from one of the gangstas they hired.
 
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Mybrokenenglish

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Jun 5, 2020
kofeiiniturpa said:
It almost sounds as if the band is a bit bored.
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my exact same impression since the first song. the original chippin in was way better imho.
 
Raxaphan

Raxaphan

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#1,843
Jun 5, 2020
For me it seems as this band is trying to look important, like riding the fame of an old band.
Their music is irritating and annoying to listen too, like kids yelling at each other for attention grabbing. It doesn't make me feel a connection to something.
Maybe in the game, their music combined with whatever elements is used on will change my state of mind.
But for now I hope they are not the only representatives of rock in the game.
 
MauricioMM

MauricioMM

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#1,844
Jun 5, 2020
I’m not the biggest fan of punk and its varieties but Samurai has been growing on me. My favorite one of the 3 they’ve shown so far is Never Fade Away but this one is very good still.

What I really want to listen is the full version of this non-Samurai track from the Deep Dive. That one, and most other tracks from the currently released gameplay videos, are way more of my type than Samurai. And, of course, I’m open to hear any more surprises.

And talking about hip-hop and such, that’s another genre that I don’t dig that much... buuut I’d love to see something similar in sound to Saul Williams’ The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust! :ok: (I’m a sucker for industrial and industrial-y music.)
 
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Garrison72

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Jun 5, 2020
I honeslty think it's average as well. The magic that was between CDPR and Percival just isn't there.
 
Mybrokenenglish

Mybrokenenglish

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Jun 5, 2020

weird thing the only part of the 3 songs I like are these few seconds. The whole chippin in it's quite bad imho. I definitely the voice as the main problem.

On the other hand, I like the in-house songs we've heard in the 2 gameplay videos :shrug: . 99% of the songs I usually listen to are rock songs, apparently it's just Refused I don't like.

BTW, I hope there's a reason in the game why Samurai songs are not sung by Silverhand/reeves (can he sing IRL BTW?).
 
MauricioMM

MauricioMM

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Jun 5, 2020
Mybrokenenglish said:
I definitely the voice as the main problem.
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Personally I’m fine with the voice, I kinda like it actually, it’s the overall composition that could be better I’d say (disclaimer: I know jacks**t about making music).

Oh, and one thing that really bugs me: where are the keyboards (Nancy/Bes Isis)?
 
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TheNeonArcade

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Jun 5, 2020
MauricioMM said:
Personally I’m fine with the voice, I kinda like it actually, it’s the overall composition that could be better I’d say (disclaimer: I know jacks**t about making music).

Oh, and one thing that really bugs me: where are the keyboards (Nancy/Bes Isis)?
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She became a media for N54 in the 2020s, doubt she would be involved with Samurai at all in 2077 assuming shes alive
 
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MauricioMM

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Jun 5, 2020
TheNeonArcade said:
She became a media for N54 in the 2020s, doubt she would be involved with Samurai at all in 2077 assuming shes alive
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Good point :think: Although that would mean songs like Chippin In and Never Fade Away were recorded after she left.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

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#1,850
Jun 5, 2020
TheNeonArcade said:
She became a media for N54 in the 2020s, doubt she would be involved with Samurai at all in 2077 assuming shes alive
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By 2013 or so, yeah, she was with NN54. Kerry talks about it in Rockerboy mag which takes place in Cyberpunk V1 or as the magazine puts it, "and a backstage talk with major 2013 Rocker Kerry Eurodyne. "

Unless you subscribe to the idea that the magazines were time-updated and those dates no longer apply. kind of an argument for that, since Kerry says he and Johnny were rocking out 10 years before in 2003. Which means that Johnny did the first year of the Second CenAm War in 2003 (Second CenAm was 2003-2010, ending with the Long Walk) then deserted, played with Kerry in 2003, band broke up in 2008.

Contradicts what Cybergeneration says about his age and when he lost the arm, which was about 2010 iirc. Cybergen is an alternate timeline of course, but that would make a little more sense in terms of 2020 timeline, if Johnny played with Kerry, then joined the military, etc. Only thing is, that would mess up a lot of other timeline stuff - like, Bes Isis being nominated for a Pulitzer after she broke the Long Walk story in 2011-2012. She'd been in Mexico City working on a story for the Nomads and hanging with a band called Justifiable Homicide when all that went down.

So, yeah, think we have to go with the JS was a soldier in 2003, then playing with Kerry and Bes in 2003 (2004?) until 2007-2008 as Samurai.

Oh, also, @MauricioMM Samurai didn't record Chippin In' or Never Fade Away. Those were part of A Cool Metal Fire by Johnny Silverhand, released 2013. NFA was top of the charts in 2013.

Maybe a modern version rereleased by a reborn Samurai or CDPR just rewrote the timeline, but yeah. That was all Johnny.
 
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MauricioMM

MauricioMM

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Jun 5, 2020
Sardukhar said:
Oh, also, @MauricioMM Samurai didn't record Chippin In' or Never Fade Away. Those were part of A Cool Metal Fire by Johnny Silverhand, released 2013. NFA was top of the charts in 2013.

Maybe a modern version rereleased by a reborn Samurai or CDPR just rewrote the timeline, but yeah. That was all Johnny.
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Oh, I stand corrected then. I’m gonna need to catch up with the lore soon enough.
 
CyberBrett

CyberBrett

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Jun 5, 2020
Not quiet heavy enough but still more my thing than anything Gimes puts out .
 
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TheSKADRIL

TheSKADRIL

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#1,853
Jun 6, 2020
Wish Refused's Samurai stuff was half as good as Elektra. Still really like what they've been putting out under Samurai. They sound like an angry Ramones.
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

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#1,854
Jun 6, 2020
Raxaphan said:
Their music is irritating and annoying to listen too
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Agreed. I didn't even listen till the end with this one, it was that bad.
 
Raxaphan

Raxaphan

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#1,855
Jun 6, 2020
Draconifors said:
Agreed. I didn't even listen till the end with this one, it was that bad.
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Same. Very hard to listen too. And their Samurai songs, so far, are not memorable for me, not good to listen on loop. For example, the Chippin in 2018 version sticks out in my mind more compared to their version that I just remember it annoyed me to listen it.
 
AshenBeans

AshenBeans

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#1,856
Jun 6, 2020
Its alright, i like it, but nothing to write home about :shrug:
i still listen to Never Fade Away from time to time, best one so far (more so than OG Chippin In)
the in-game music seems good so far, im eager to listen to what Marcin has in store for us
 
xxTotexx

xxTotexx

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#1,857
Jun 6, 2020
I don't like any of the Samurai songs. They sound like something an edgy fourteen year old would listen to. I hope we can tell Johnny his music sucks at least lol. It'll work well with my Corpo background.
 
Rawls

Rawls

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#1,858
Jun 6, 2020
I like them personally. This one included.
 
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kofeiiniturpa

kofeiiniturpa

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#1,859
Jun 6, 2020
Not too warm a welcome, for Samurai...
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

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#1,860
Jun 6, 2020
Fortunately we have have many other artists making music for it but I'm wondering if cranking out music on demand for a game studio, creating complete songs with lyrics, is too tall an order for most bands. With Percival they were drawing from their past music and generally just jamming with the music directors.
 
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