Please, could you stop with that BS? All you say here is "I feel that the majority of people here doesn't share my own opinion. They must be elitists or whatever."
We are all the same here, just single gamers and witcher fans. No need for you to constantly state that everyone else who doesn't share your tastes and opinions isn't someone who should be taken seriously. There is no "right" feedback. Each opinion and each concern is equally valid. Yours is as valid and important than mine. Ok?!
It's hard to describe. I'm not really sure what he means but if i had to guess. It's that the Wither fans have a self entitlement of the game.
He probably thinks that people who love the books and the lore were elitist (if I had to guess) which would be a quite wrong expression.
But he is true that TW3 will seperate the community in old fans and new fans, even more than TW2. That's the price you have to pay if you want to bring your games to the mainstream, you'll never be able to satisfy your whole audience. Mainstream means the lowest common denominator.
I hated the last time the word entitlement appeared in a gaming development discussion. Could we use other one? I suggest dumpling.
(just kidding)
(just kidding)
Actually he had one point though, I do hope they consider other sources of feedback besides our own, and above all I don't want them to destroy their vision to meet demands, I have seen other games do that and they only end up a mess.
Indeed, though even the biggest complainers will get the game because they love it so much.He probably thinks that people who love the books and the lore were elitist (if I had to guess) which would be a quite wrong expression.
But he is true that TW3 will seperate the community in old fans and new fans, even more than TW2. That's the price you have to pay if you want to bring your games to the mainstream, you'll never be able to satisfy your whole audience. Mainstream means the lowest common denominator.
Plus it gives CD Projekt some food for thought, so that is welcome too.
Do you think RED would really do that. Hinder the game to bring more people to TW3? That's not like them.He probably thinks that people who love the books and the lore were elitist (if I had to guess) which would be a quite wrong expression.
But he is true that TW3 will seperate the community in old fans and new fans, even more than TW2. That's the price you have to pay if you want to bring your games to the mainstream, you'll never be able to satisfy your whole audience. Mainstream means the lowest common denominator.
I believe some changes they are doing is because they think it is good for a game. Maybe they are thinking crossbows will be a cool thing for the game and not trying to make the combat easier.
I dont know if it was discussed here or not, (not gonna read entire thread) but what I am worried about is the whole errand boy thing. Go kill this monster far away to receive information, go help returning voice to that fella then go do favor for those three sisters then help with that monsters in village etc. It really doesnt sound appealing to me and I am surprised CDPR picked this as something representable. It almost sounds like a parody.
Also it seems like Leshen is no longer side quest as on last E3 but it got moved to main story, it what they were describing in those articles are to be believed. Or maybe its just similar monster?
Also it seems like Leshen is no longer side quest as on last E3 but it got moved to main story, it what they were describing in those articles are to be believed. Or maybe its just similar monster?
That's so relative in fact. There is the same mumber of type of fans than ntaste of each fan. It's not elitism, this word could even sound a little bit pejorative. All opinions have been posted from the first aof all them are simply that: opinions. And CDPR team knows perfectly that each of us we have our own preferences, some read the books, some play the game the first day, other ones never played RPG's the list is infinte.
Here you can find passion, humor sense, friendly jokes and and counted angry responses (always followed by a sincere apology), but hardly the elitism that has wanted to suggest.
At least, we have a GREAT MOD TEAM that make their hard job giving an example. ;P
But then again i saw in some interview they are making the combat easier. I could be wrong but that sounds scary for me. I love the challenging combat of TW2 i hope they don't change that just to sell more copies to casuals. I'm sorry if it looks like im a prick but that's the way i feel. I love TW games because they are different.
In my opinion, alchemy was better in Witcher 1 rather than Witcher 2 but I liked the preparation before the combat we saw in Witcher 2 better than drinking stuff during combat itself (I would love preparation sequences like the one we saw in "52 and a half" video). To make everybody happy (or happier, at least) I think it would be better to allow the use of potions in both ways (before - like it was in Witcher 2 - and during combat - like it was in Witcher 1) while mutagens drinkable during meditation only is fine to me. Yoy don't need to create a "hardcore mode" to make this, let players decide whether to use potions during fights or not. I think this is the best way to do it. And about auto-refilling, I think it would make the game too easy. Let potions auto-refill if players have raw ingredients at least. But you know, making things too easy for lazy players could ruin the game experience for veterans who were used and liked alchemy as it was in the past.
Long story short, my proposal is, if you wish to consider it, the following:
1) Drinkable potions before and during combat. Mutagens and oils for blades before combat only.
2) Let people decide if they want auto-refill or let it work only if one has enough ingredients. To me, Alchemy was better in Witcher 1 (I liked that I had to use base, ingredients and special effects) but preparation is more realistic (or cool, if you wish) than drinking stuff during a fight.
Long story short, my proposal is, if you wish to consider it, the following:
1) Drinkable potions before and during combat. Mutagens and oils for blades before combat only.
2) Let people decide if they want auto-refill or let it work only if one has enough ingredients. To me, Alchemy was better in Witcher 1 (I liked that I had to use base, ingredients and special effects) but preparation is more realistic (or cool, if you wish) than drinking stuff during a fight.
How do you know the leshen is part of a main quest? Just because they havent showed it this year?
I don't think that they do so everywhere. But they are not dumb. They know exactly that they have to sell A LOT of copies in order to get even and earn some money. Of course they still have their creative vision but imo it's adjusted here and there to make the game as "open" as possible. They said so themselves while talking about the combat IIRC...
Hell, even open world is SO mainstream...
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The monster they described is not leshen, but some forest spirit, this demo takes place in No Mans Land while the optional quest with Leshen takes place on Skellige Islands.
They want to make the game both accessible and demanding. I guess it will be very easy and cool looking in the lowest difficulty, but also complicated, tactical and demanding in the other difficulties. I really don't know if they can pull it of; but trying to bring both "casual" gamers and long time fans is a pretty ambitious move, and I like it. The guys in CDP Red know what they're doing, at least I hope. If you see it that way, looking into other forums/sources of inspiration is a really good idea
You're right open world is mainstream. But i do love that the Wither 3 is open world. I think it was a good idea in their part. Plus hunting for monsters and being essentially a Witcher requires a open world in IMO.Hell, even open world is SO mainstream...
Every sane developer wants that, especially in AAA gaming where you just have to attrack a huge audience.
That's also the reason why most mainstream games are so mediocre. Honorable goals are rarely met in the realities of game development...
Alright, it just sounded similar from the description then.
Are you sure they actually cut the idea with vulnerable body parts? Even though they didnt show it off at e3 , that does not mean its not in the game . It could simply be limited to some monsters instead of all of them.
I think some of you are reading to much into the quote of them having a more "casual" combat. My impression , and i think Konrad mentioned this also , is that the system will be easy to get into but hard to master. Afterall many people did complain about the very steep learning curve in the Witcher 2.
I have seen several people complain about this , and i would like to hear the reasoning behind why some think the combat needs to be improved or changed in any radical way. The main problem with the Witcher 2 combat was the targeting system , long attack sequences that you could not stop , and ALOT of dodging. All of these points have been touched upon , and you can now string together light and heavy blows and signs the way you prefer. The parry and riposte system is also improved and i know Konrad Tomaszkiewicz mentioned that all the signs have had some changes so that they are now usefull for different combat situations. Alot of the signs where simply too weak or overpowered in the last two games. (Igni and quen beeing way to good , axii and yrden fairly weak)
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