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archaven

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#2,961
Jun 14, 2014
The stats are a little simple. I hope there are more advanced version like:
Chance to Stun, Chance to Freeze, Chance to Slow, Chance to Knockback, Chance to Bleed, Chance to Burn, Chance to Poison, etc.
 
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Jupiter_on_Mars

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#2,962
Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
No, Sapkowski only contributed to Witcher 1. He once said that he didn't like the direction of Witcher 2 IIRC...

And underwater combat is clear lore-breaking. You can read that yourself in The Sword of Destiny. It's 100% clearly stated there without any doubt that Geralt would never fight in or under the water... ;)
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I'm sure out of his own will he is said to never fight under water. Circumstances change and people are forced to do things they never dreamed of doing. Happens all the time. According to a recent E3 interview I can't locate at the moment, the author did work with the team on this lasts instalment. For now, this I all I have to say on the matter.
 
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wichat

Mentor
#2,963
Jun 14, 2014
randyrhoads said:


could he be an agent of Temeria?!
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GOT IT!! It's Marcin camouflaged!!

 
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StaGiors

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Jun 14, 2014
Jupiter on Mars said:
I'm sure out of his own will he is said to never fight under water. Circumstances change and people are forced to do things they never dreamed of doing. Happens all the time. According to a recent E3 interview I can't locate at the moment, the author did work with the team on this lasts instalment. For now, this I all I have to say on the matter.
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I did what, you say?



Do share the interview, should you find it. :)

Also, RED confirmation would really seal the deal, since some interview "facts" can't be really trusted.
 
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Scholdarr

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#2,965
Jun 14, 2014
Jupiter on Mars said:
I'm sure out of his own will he is said to never fight under water. Circumstances change and people are forced to do things they never dreamed of doing. Happens all the time. According to a recent E3 interview I can't locate at the moment, the author did work with the team on this lasts instalment. For now, this I all I have to say on the matter.
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Did you ever fight underwater? It's already difficult as hell with a modern diving equipment. Underwater fighting without a diving equipment is almost impossible for a human being, no matter if your senses are somewhat improved or not. That's because it is against believablity.

I agree that there could be a reason to swim or even dive. But the best thing Geralt could do if he recognize an enemy in or under the water is fleeing as fast as possible. As I said creatures in the ocean should be extremely dangerous and every time you enter the water you should be at the edge of sudden death. That would be lore-friendly and believable...


wichat said:
GOT IT!! It's Marcin camouflaged!!

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I think it must be John. Look at the folded arms, that's his typical posture.... :p
 
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Jupiter_on_Mars

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Jun 14, 2014
StaGiors said:
I did what, you say?



Do share the interview, should you find it. :)

Also, RED confirmation would really seal the deal, since some interview "facts" can't be really trusted.
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I'm paraphrasing from memory. it could well be they said he worked on the series, not specifically on this instalment. Anyway, CDProjekt has carte blanche.

LordCrash said:
Did you ever fight underwater? It's already difficult as hell with a modern diving equipment. Underwater fighting without a diving equipment is almost impossible for a human being, no matter if your senses are somewhat improved or not. That's because it is against believablity.

I agree that there could be a reason to swim or even dive. But the best thing Geralt could do if he recognize an enemy in or under the water is fleeing as fast as possible. As I said creatures in the ocean should be extremely dangerous and every time you enter the water you should be at the edge of sudden death. That would be lore-friendly and believable...



I think it must be John. Look at the folded arms, that's his typical posture.... :p
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Come on man. You don't know the circumstances he'll be fighting underwater. You don't know if some potion will serve as an oxygen supplement. Besides I wouldn't call Geralt a normal human being.
Let's call it quits.
Underwater combat is in. :teeth:
 
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Devils4dvocate

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Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
Did you ever fight underwater?
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Ewww, probably no many people would answer yes to that :)
 
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wichat

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#2,968
Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
I think it must be John. Look at the folded arms, that's his typical posture.... :p
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THAT is what Marcin would like we believe HAHAHAHAH (evil, very evil laught)
 
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StaGiors

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Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
Did you ever fight underwater? It's already difficult as hell with a modern diving equipment. Underwater fighting without a diving equipment is almost impossible for a human being, no matter if your senses are somewhat improved or not. That's because it is against believablity.

I agree that there could be a reason to swim or even dive. But the best thing Geralt could do if he recognize an enemy in or under the water is fleeing as fast as possible. As I said creatures in the ocean should be extremely dangerous and every time you enter the water you should be at the edge of sudden death. That would be lore-friendly and believable...



I think it must be John. Look at the folded arms, that's his typical posture.... :p
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That is correct. There are only 2 ways Geralt could put up a fraction of a fight underwater. He could stab something, though the effects would not be as gruesome as they would be above water. And he could shoot a projectile, see crossbow, or harpoon. That is all he can do underwater. Oh and kick. And that's that.
 
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Scholdarr

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Jun 14, 2014
devilsadvocate said:
Ewww, probably no many people would answer yes to that :)
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Sure but there are realistic videos (no movies) of divers (in cages e.g.) attacked by sharks and they wouldn't stand even the slightest chance in a fight even with a diving equipment to take the air supply out of the equation... ;)
@StaGiors


Agreed. And very likely he would only have ONE attack at the maximum (if he recognized the enemy soon enough!!!) probably used best to confuse/wound an enemy before fleeing ASAP and leaving the water.... ;)
 
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Jack Bauer 24

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Jun 14, 2014
archav3n said:
The stats are a little simple. I hope there are more advanced version like:
Chance to Stun, Chance to Freeze, Chance to Slow, Chance to Knockback, Chance to Bleed, Chance to Burn, Chance to Poison, etc.
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This isn't JRPG. We know this.
 
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MikeKing

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#2,972
Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
He once said that he didn't like the direction of Witcher 2 IIRC...
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Can you provide link to prove that?
As far as I now he didn't contributed on any Witcher game, CD Project just ask him some things about lore.
 
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archaven

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#2,973
Jun 14, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
This isn't JRPG. We know this.
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It doesn't need a J to have that mechanics. IIRC in TW2 we have some variations there too.
 
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Scholdarr

Banned
#2,974
Jun 14, 2014
Isendur said:
Can you provide link to prove that?
As far as I now he didn't contributed on any Witcher game, CD Project just ask him some things about lore.
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Well, he clearly stated in the famous eurogamer interview that he didn't think that the games should be canon and that was after the release of TW2. He wasn't very glad about the games. I guess (and that's just me) that he didn't like the direction of the games that much or why should he excoriate the games that strongly otherwise?
With contribution I meant that he maybe let Witcher 1 through on the nod. I mean CDPR must have convinced him somehow to give them the license. Maybe it was only money and he didn't even see the vision/concept of the game before, who knows.... ;)
 
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archaven

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#2,975
Jun 14, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
This isn't JRPG. We know this.
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http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_effect

So you mean to say TW2 is a JRPG as well?
 
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wichat

Mentor
#2,976
Jun 14, 2014
About fight underwater, I only ask to CDPR for respect the physical laws, and know how to implement them in a plausible way....
 
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Scholdarr

Banned
#2,977
Jun 14, 2014
Jupiter on Mars said:
Come on man. You don't know the circumstances he'll be fighting underwater. You don't know if some potion will serve as an oxygen supplement.
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Sure, why not? What else? Potion for levitating/flying around (which is actually possible in the world, but not by potions but by magic...)? Potion for sudden healing in combat? Let's make it a Skyrim fairytale world in which everything is possible if you just drink the right potion...

I'm afraid that potions don't work like that in the witcher world. Not at all. Even some of the potions in W1 and W2 are almost lore-breaking... ;)

Besides I wouldn't call Geralt a normal human being.
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I said human being with improved senses and slightly improved physics. That's exactly what Geralt is.

Let's call it quits.
Underwater combat is in. :teeth:
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Well, for now. Aiming at certain body parts was also in - last year. Now it's out. The game isn't released yet. Things change. Things can be adjusted and tweaked.... ;)
 
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GuyNwah

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#2,978
Jun 14, 2014
LordCrash said:
Well, he clearly stated in the famous eurogamer interview that he didn't think that the games should be canon and that was after the release of TW2. He wasn't very glad about the games. I guess (and that's just me) that he didn't like the direction of the games that much or why should he excoriate the games that strongly otherwise?
With contribution I meant that he maybe let Witcher 1 through on the nod. I mean CDPR must have convinced him somehow to give them the license. Maybe it was only money and he didn't even see the vision/concept of the game before, who knows.... ;)
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Nothing of what he said in that interview was anything to the effect that he did not like the direction the games took. Sapkowski is opinionated and blunt, and he is of the mindset that novels and games are different things and have nothing in common. You must understand this point of view to put his remarks in context; otherwise, they merely sound pointlessly critical.

All he said was that he is nothing to do with the direction the games took. He does not have any ill feeling toward CDPR or the games. They just don't mean anything to him.
 
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wichat

wichat

Mentor
#2,979
Jun 14, 2014
Do you mind if I edit it?

Jack Bauer 24 said:
This isn't conventional JRPG. We know this.
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archaven

Rookie
#2,980
Jun 14, 2014
wichat said:
Do you mind if I edit it?
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Still you are ignoring that TW2 has those elements. Are you implying TW2 is a JRPG? Stop making yourself look stupid please.
 
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