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LoneWolf

Senior user
#1
Mar 28, 2013
Early pre-orders/Helping CDPR

I don't know how about you, guys, but I would very much like to help CDPR in creating their masterpiece - The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. How can we do it? Simple - by early pre-orders and prepayments of the game, preferably on GOG.com.
Why GOG.com? Simple - the site belongs to CDPR, so they don't have to convince an outside company for alloying them an early pre-orders and early charging of the funds.
Now, I know what many of you are going to say/think: "It's to early now, we haven't seen any gameplay footage yet. WE need additional information before we decide if we even going to buy the game." Well, to this I'll answer - Haven't CDPR already proven that they deserve our faith, haven't they delivered two of the best RPGs in the recent years? Don't they deserve a little "leap of fate" on our part?
This is our chance, as fans, for supporting, probably the only company that still caters to RPG fans, and not to half-brained shooter kiddies.
Many of you are going to buy this game anyway, so does it really matter if you pay for it now or next year? And this additional funding will help CDPR in creating the best RPG they possibly can. Of course, they have to allow us, fans, to help them by allowing the early pre-orders in the first place.
What do you guys think?
 
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daddy300

Mentor
#2
Mar 28, 2013
I have a feeling they will announce the pre-order deals very soon anyway perhaps they are just waiting for next xbox to be announced. You are kind forcing people who are exited about TW3 to get it on PC.

No point of them begging for money. That whole Kickstarter business model has started something unhealthy and unnecessary. I will definitely get it on GOG but at the same time I would like to have it on my Steam list.
 
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Griffinwitcher

Rookie
#3
Mar 28, 2013
LoneWolf1981 said:
I don't know how about you, guys, but I would very much like to help CDPR in creating their masterpiece - The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. How can we do it? Simple - by early pre-orders and prepayments of the game, preferably on GOG.com.
Why GOG.com? Simple - the site belongs to CDPR, so they don't have to convince an outside company for alloying them an early pre-orders and early charging of the funds.
Now, I know what many of you are going to say/think: "It's to early now, we haven't seen any gameplay footage yet. WE need additional information before we decide if we even going to buy the game." Well, to this I'll answer - Haven't CDPR already proven that they deserve our faith, haven't they delivered two of the best RPGs in the recent years? Don't they deserve a little "leap of fate" on our part?
This is our chance, as fans, for supporting, probably the only company that still caters to RPG fans, and not to half-brained shooter kiddies.
Many of you are going to buy this game anyway, so does it really matter if you pay for it now or next year? And this additional funding will help CDPR in creating the best RPG they possibly can. Of course, they have to allow us, fans, to help them by allowing the early pre-orders in the first place.
What do you guys think?
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He does have a point once you think about it.
 
frynse

frynse

Senior user
#4
Mar 28, 2013
Usually you don't get charged until the game is dispatched. And while I have faith in CDPR, I really don't feel like preordering well over a year before the game is released.
 
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FoggyFishburne

Banned
#5
Mar 28, 2013
GriffinWitcher said:
He does have a point once you think about it.
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He does, but then again he doesn't.

Most of us on the forums are going to buy the game. I am, in fact I'm going to buy the collectors edition. But forfeiting common sense and our own interests in order to help RED? I don't know, I'm not too keen on that. This ain't a charity. I want to buy a physical Collectors edition. I want to see some trailers. Not because I doubt the quality of the product, I just want to see a fucking trailer. Are there gonna be different versions of CE? Then I'd like to wait so I can pick the one that suits me. How about a release date? I'm supposed to give my money away despite not even knowing when the hell it's coming out? I'm not asking for much here.

All I'm saying is give it time. Just wait. When we have all the facts and information, THEN we can make a sound business investment. I'm not gonna act like those BioWare, what are they called, "BioDrones", who just mindlessly support BioWare regardless of the quality they shit out. I've got my standards, and considering RED is badass, they're even higher for them. I'll be buying the game but I want to buy it on my terms. I've got nothing against supporting RED in the meantime in other ways.

Like spreading the word about them. I've already gotten two other friends on the Witcher bandwagon, they bought the previous games and are anxiously waiting for the third part. Isn't that the best way of supporting RED? Just making sure that as many people as possible know of the Witcher series and how awesome they are? That way, instead of selling only 1 copy, they could be selling infinite copies, since word of mouth carries a lot of weight and spreads like fire.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#6
Mar 28, 2013
Hey, welcome to the forum! So nice to have enthusiast fans here! ^^

LoneWolf1981 said:
I don't know how about you, guys, but I would very much like to help CDPR in creating their masterpiece - The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. How can we do it? Simple - by early pre-orders and prepayments of the game, preferably on GOG.com.
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Are you been hired by GoG? lol, just kidding. I really like the spirit!

Why GOG.com? Simple - the site belongs to CDPR, so they don't have to convince an outside company for alloying them an early pre-orders and early charging of the funds.
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Yes, this is one reason, the one we-fans should be motivated for. But if we should talk to the rest of the world is because GoG has the no-DRM most welcome policy, and I hope it'll "educate" the rest of the videogame market (yes.... I'm looking at you silly-Gfwl! arrh )

Now, I know what many of you are going to say/think: "It's to early now, we haven't seen any gameplay footage yet. WE need additional information before we decide if we even going to buy the game." Well, to this I'll answer - Haven't CDPR already proven that they deserve our faith, haven't they delivered two of the best RPGs in the recent years? Don't they deserve a little "leap of fate" on our part?
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Your enthuasiasm is heart-warming. But speaking as a fan (not as a moderator) I think the opposite. Leaps of faith are suitable to drones, real attentive fans should instead watch carefully of their favourite Devs are doing before taking any step. My opinion of course, feel free to disagree:)
CDPR has my total loyalty and my trust, but not my unconditional faith. I still feel myself free to disagree with their choice and give 'em my... uhmm... sign of disagreement (if I can say so). Unconditional faith and trust had led most of the gaming companies to do mess like Dragon Age 2, which is the most unwelcomed fate, when rabid customers rain in mass blaming for bad quality, changing a so called-masterpiece in a complete flop.
That is why I say: trust the company, yes. Staying (constructively) critic better.


This is our chance, as fans, for supporting, probably the only company that still caters to RPG fans, and not to half-brained shooter kiddies.
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But they're so cathartic!
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#7
Mar 28, 2013
If you're a fan of older games, buying from GoG will help fund the game, in which case I've probably funded half of the development costs already.
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#8
Mar 28, 2013
FoggyFishburne said:
But forfeiting common sense and our own interests in order to help RED? I don't know, I'm not too keen on that. This ain't a charity.
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This, my friends, is how you do it. Swiftly, suavely and to the point.

A company that has started a new IP, will be releasing 2 new smaller instalments, possibly a P&P game, recruiting extensively and expanding overseas hardly qualifies as one in need of what the OP deems help. I'm sure he has nothing but the best intentions but just what would be rationale behind pre-ordering 19 months in advance a game about which we know very little and have been shown practically nothing?

My money has to earned. I sure wouldn't want to send a counterproductive message of complacency to CDProjekt. Voicing out one's readiness to award them any kind of money at this point in time simply signals one's willingness to buy the game no matter what. But there's an awful lot of things than can go East in 19 months' time.

I expect TW3 to be a wonderful game, even a landmark in the genre. But by no means am I eager to give CDProkjekt what could be perceived and acted upon as an incentive to sleep on the job.
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#9
Mar 28, 2013
I shall submit to that most bitter and terrible of illusions, hope. Course i've got to pay off the local knocking shop and landlord of the frisky ferret first, but after that i'm quids in.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#10
Mar 28, 2013
slimgrin said:
If you're a fan of older games, buying from GoG will help fund the game, in which case I've probably funded half of the development costs already.
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This, definitely, is the way to show support.

I agree with secondchildren that early pre-orders would be a bad idea. Guy has recently explained in this thread why collecting revenue from customers in advance isn't necessarily good business sense for any company.

And, as far as pre-orders are concerned, it opens up so many potential problems. At the moment, they've been vague on many things. What happens if someone pre-orders based on their own interpretation of something said, and that interpretation is wrong, or circumstances change? Wouldn't the customer see it as a betrayal of that well-earned trust? Allowing pre-orders would put CDPR in the difficult position of feeling that they have to honour every little thing that they've said, regardless of whether or not they continue to think it's a good idea, or go ahead and change something and risk the fans' ire. Neither scenario is good for the game.

The right way to handle pre-orders is to allow the customers to make informed decisions, and that means waiting until they can reveal a LOT more details, including game-play. That's how an ethical company should work, and that's what I hope and expect from CDPR. If they opened up to pre-orders now, it would seriously damage my own trust in them.
 
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myari

Rookie
#11
Mar 28, 2013
Hmm don't understand this topic... is there lack of money or something?

Early pre-orders isnt that good indeed if everyone doesnt know allot about the game yet and and cannot decide if they want to have it at the end when its finished or not.... for me, i would even buy it when it only said The Witcher 3 lol...can't feel betrayed haha.
 
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chance52

Senior user
#12
Mar 28, 2013
I think CDPR has earned a leap of faith and I am almost positive I will end up buying their next game(s). Even if I end up not liking the products I support the way CDPR does business and I think companies that care more about the customer than turning out an inferior product for a faster profit should be supported. Plus it's not like even if I end up not liking the next 2 games from them that it will be the end of the world, I've purchased games and movies I ended up not liking before and probably will in the future.

But I agree with FoggyFishburne about not losing our common sense too, we need to see more about the product we are buying first.

There are only 2 games that I ever pre-ordered. I loved Dragon Age: Origins so much that it was a no brainier for me to trust BioWare and pre-order Dragon Age 2. Well I don't think I have to say anymore to make my point on how that turned out, haha. And the next game I pre-ordered was Mass Effect 3, even after the disaster that was DA2 from the same company I figured they were different development teams. I won't get into the ME3 ending debate here and I liked the game for the most part but didn't like the way BioWare did business, both with the collectors edition and the way the fans were being all lumped in with the small amount of people going completely crazy over the ending. It's not like everyone that disliked their game were whiny entitled gamers yet everyone that disliked the game was treated that way by BioWare.

Bottom line is I doubt I'll pre-order anything again, it is way too easy to get burned that way even from a company that has previously earned the trust of the customers. I will however continue to support CDPR as long as they remain the company I respect them for today.
 
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myari

Rookie
#13
Mar 28, 2013
Hmm true ofcourse i mean there is always a possibility that you dislike the next game and feel sorry you pre-ordered it. (I DID like DA2 :p/>/> btw) I only pre-order if the game has extra's when doing so or a special edition that i want, if not i might aswell walk to the store that's very close by on the day of release. Also watching lots of video's and reading about a game helps. (Though with the Witcher is was more like... my friend calls me and tells me to get the Witcher game..and i said.. ^^ok!)He only calls about a game when he is really impressed about a game, so i do not doubt his opinion :p/>/>
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#14
Mar 28, 2013
no! No more talk, no more words. We buy, we pre-order. We break down their walls and take the gasoline! Losers wait, losers wait!
 
frynse

frynse

Senior user
#15
Mar 28, 2013
Myari said:
(I DID like DA2 :p/>/>/> btw)
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Are you purposely trying to invalidate your own post?
 
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myari

Rookie
#16
Mar 28, 2013
frynse said:
Are you purposely trying to invalidate your own post?
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hahaha..omg just being honest!
 
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chance52

Senior user
#17
Mar 28, 2013
Myari said:
Hmm true ofcourse i mean there is always a possibility that you dislike the next game and feel sorry you pre-ordered it. (I DID like DA2 :p/>/>/> btw) I only pre-order if the game has extra's when doing so or a special edition that i want, if not i might aswell walk to the store that's very close by on the day of release. Also watching lots of video's and reading about a game helps. (Though with the Witcher is was more like... my friend calls me and tells me to get the Witcher game..and i said.. ^^ok!)He only calls about a game when he is really impressed about a game, so i do not doubt his opinion :p/>/>/>
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Haha, I have a friend like that too, tried for years to get me to play Mass Effect and he finally handed me Mass Effect 1 and 2 and said to bring them back when I was done. I really liked both and I never would have played them if he hadn't pushed me to play them. He is doing the same thing with me now on the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R, I still haven't played it but he keeps telling me with some fan made mods its a game he really likes and I should play it.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#18
Mar 28, 2013
Hey guys, let's just not twist this positive post into something different. Pre ordering is one fantastic thing and we can have trust that it'll be a great game and our money won't be wasted at all.

It is just that it's too early for pre-ordering, we lack of gameplays and many other important details, too many questions to answer. But CDPR is well awared of this, that is why they haven't launched anything so far, aside the signing up for newsletter.
Pre-order is not crowd funding, neither charity.

Now let's sit down, grab the popcorn and let the Devs amazed us with their wonders
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#19
Mar 28, 2013
Well, I regularly pre-order games on amazon, but they do not charge until it is ready to be shipped. This way companies can estimate a potential volume of sales based on pre-order numbers, while I can cancel any time for any reason. Right now I have Dark Souls 2 and Castlevania LOS 2 pre-ordered, and I'll pre-order TW3 under such conditions as soon as it becomes available. But I am against advanced sales, it is potentially bad both for a company and a customer.
 
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wichat

Mentor
#20
Mar 28, 2013
I'll will pre-order TW3... but not before the six-three months before its release....
 
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