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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#61
Oct 31, 2007
morvael said:
But there's one thing to say about the Witcher's world - that it's not dominated by men only. There are women wielding magic and great power (they can kick ass too, propably more than Geralt), there are many women who can fight with sword or bow (some of them are really deadly) plus most of them are attractive and "collect cards" of men as easy as Geralt does of women... but there's no woman-witcher.
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a "woman-witcher" feels strange and irritating, that's right. Nevertheless the very few woman who posses some sort of power are still constructed as a clichee pattern... naive and prone to cheap presents, not very intelligente and "sexual purchasable" in every respect. Hence they have no personality, no charisma but they are just pale, inane, hollow... just a cliche even if there is a slight shadow of power, which doesn't dominate the cliche.
 
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morvael

Forum veteran
#62
Oct 31, 2007
PetraSilie said:
a "woman-witcher" feels strange and irritating, that's right. Nevertheless the very few woman who posses some sort of power are still constructed as a clichee pattern... naive and prone to cheap presents, not very intelligente and "sexual purchasable" in every respect. Hence they have no personality, no charisma but they are just pale, inane, hollow... just a cliche even if there is a slight shadow of power, which doesn't dominate the cliche.
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In the game - maybe, I have not yet played it to the end. In the book - no, not at all. Maybe if you would know the story of Filippa Eilhart and her actions (she created a new order for the world after the wars between Nilfgaard and the Northern Kingdoms) you would not say so. Heck, in fact women had more impact on the fate of the world than any man in Sapkowski's books!
 
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jerczu

Senior user
#63
Oct 31, 2007
I have written it ona polish forum as well but what about The Witcher On-Line i really would like to play something like that... And make it free like Guild Wars and we have a winner :)Would be good if it don't crash under Vista as the normal game does...
 
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sm

Senior user
#64
Oct 31, 2007
Only two points for now:1º I would like to see that the witcher can walk SLOWLY even when playing with the OTS camera. I wish walk arround and view the world with run to all place.2º I want a NO-DVD Patch. Yes i understand all the Copy-Protection and all this. But (I am registred user... having my Witcher Copy Registred and all that) I want a No-DVD Patch. Sorry i consider it a PITA to be always switching DvDs around, just for the Copyprotection. I think the Patch should be a Registred Only. the Startup seeing you registred.. or if you registred you get a Mail with a Special No-Dvd patch or something like used in the games buy in digital shop like Atari.uk. (One of my friend buy in that way and he doesnt use any DVD to play the Witcher.
 
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aequitas

Senior user
#65
Oct 31, 2007
I only really have one suggestion right now, since a revised inventory UI should really be in a general patch (re: sort option, and separate alchemical inventory for the purpose of maintaining my sanity), and that is a revision of the Tages protection system used by the game. For the love of all that is good, revise it so it's not checking every single load attempt...hell, I have the digital download version and I found that it was the cause of my CTDs 99% of the time because it was still checking my drives. Have it check once on initial game startup, and that's it, please.
 
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kajan451

Senior user
#66
Oct 31, 2007
Watchdog said:
And between us, guys - If I want to stare on a female virtual arse, I play Oblivion. If I want a mature game, I play the Witcher. ;D ;)
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Now if Oblivion would be just be as interresting as "The Witcher" i'd agree... i think i needed like 2 days straight play there to be master of all guilds and have the main quest finished. Past that i closed the Game and never opened it again. But i can understand the fan point of view (I am like that with a lot of things, but i don't really see it a much of a "disgrace" to have a female witcher, since its all about them being mutated)... But okay thats beside the point.What i just thought about, we talking about possible expansions here. Anyone has played Prince of Persia I here? All i want to point out. There you got a Female Character helping out the Prince... the idea i was just having, how about making a two part extension. One Portraining Geralt... and the other (both stand alone with the core game) some Witch or Huntress... or something like that. So their Storys would cross all the time. Like helping each other out, meeting up and sharing intelligence... working together, but not back to back. Only a few Bossfights where they both are present.. in each version as "NPC" char...Now the idea is... if you buy the witch version you play the witch story arc... if you buy the witcher version.. you play the witcher arc... seeing how they get where they get and what they do to get what they do. Without it, they are just normal NPCs showing up, presenting you new informations and options. This being said... it could be worked into some Co-op Mode, when you got both versions you can play it at the same time... one does play the witcher, the other the witch/huntress/whatever... meeting up for some fights now and then... but also being independent in doing their jobs. It could be going as far as to offer sidequests in Co-op to both of them... or rather just to one, being able to decide for the other to tag along, but still have some situations they need to part, cause time pressures to move on or something like that.Just some Idea.
 
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username_2061709

Senior user
#67
Oct 31, 2007
Guys remember plz that these are supposed to be _extensions_ aka something new and exiting not something that fixes things :)(there is a thread(s) about hopes for the next patch use it, and if you get nice idea about _EXTENSION_ come here and by all means share it with us.(yes im bored of reading the loading time, inventory, ctd stuff, they get it done when they get it done and im sure as hell they try their best and those are gonna be in a PATCH not in an extension)
 
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kalniel

Senior user
#68
Oct 31, 2007
Hear hear :D
 
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rymdkejsaren

Senior user
#69
Oct 31, 2007
When is the editor due? I would love to make my own little quests.
 
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svig102

Senior user
#70
Oct 31, 2007
GODzilla said:
I would like to see that the witcher can walk SLOWLY even when playing with the OTS camera. It's a bit odd that you can only run with this camera view...makes the game quite hasty and forces me to switch to the other camera view in order to stalk trough the beautifull places. ^^
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Me too!
 
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suicidebunny

Senior user
#71
Oct 31, 2007
't would be nice to have the journal show secondary substances for ingredients, and have a secondary filter for those too.
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#72
Oct 31, 2007
@morvaelI meant women in the game ;) I merely know two books that are Last Wish and Sword of Destiny. I knew the books before the game and I'm a bit surprised to find women in the game as sort of game subjects.@Kajan451respect for your creativity. Your idea sounds interesting. Does your female "co op" char belong to the Witcher guild as well? I haven't read the entire Geralt Saga. Thus I don't know whether there is a slighty hint about "female Witchers" mutants of that guild. From the knowlegde I got of these two books, it sounds quite strange there will be women with the same destiny.
 
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consiensus

Senior user
#73
Oct 31, 2007
svig102 said:
svig102 said:
I would like to see that the witcher can walk SLOWLY even when playing with the OTS camera. It's a bit odd that you can only run with this camera view...makes the game quite hasty and forces me to switch to the other camera view in order to stalk trough the beautifull places. ^^
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Me too!
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Yes!And Me!!!!!
 
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watchdog

Senior user
#74
Oct 31, 2007
PetraSilie said:
@Kajan451respect for your creativity. Your idea sounds interesting. Does your female "co op" char belong to the Witcher guild as well? I haven't read the entire Geralt Saga. Thus I don't know whether there is a slighty hint about "female Witchers" mutants of that guild. From the knowlegde I got of these two books, it sounds quite strange there will be women with the same destiny.
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No, female witchers just do not and can not exist in the books.
 
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corvinius

Senior user
#75
Oct 31, 2007
Kajan451 said:
Kajan451 said:
Witchers are supposed to be emotionless killing machines. Tolerated by the common population only a tiny bit more than monsters they kill. Not your average mass-produces golden curly haired fantasy heroes, you know?
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And sorry, but you might should just play the game, before making statements like "emotionsless" Killing machines, because if he would be all like that, he wouldn't do a lot of the things he does. That starts by helping out poor people in a swamp and does not end, by sparing monsters like his best friend being a Vampire, as you get told. Its not like he is an emotionless Killing machine.
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I think that's why Watchdog wrote "supposed to be", Kajan451. The fact that Geralt (and most of his fellow witchers) doesn't quite fit that description is what makes him interesting. He is supposed to be brutal and uncaring but somewhere deep inside...see what I mean? And who would want to play an emotionless killing machine?As to the women witchers: obviously women can make good witches (note: without the "r") and mages in this background (e.g. Triss Merigold and Abigail). They do have deep and interesting personalities (though quite a few seem a little on the hornier side :p) and they can fight monsters with their powers. So if there was to be a "Witcher" game some time in the future, in which you could create your own character, why not play a witch or a female mage? Or an elf, dwarf etc. Even a black character from some faraway (southern) country might be possible (as I recall a thread about all those boring white male game heroes).What I'd like to know: could the developers imagine to make a game based on the Witcher backgrund, set - say - some hundred years before or after the books and the present game - in which we could create our own player character? Or would that be to far off limits?
 
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kajan451

Senior user
#76
Oct 31, 2007
PetraSilie said:
respect for your creativity. Your idea sounds interesting. Does your female "co op" char belong to the Witcher guild as well? I haven't read the entire Geralt Saga. Thus I don't know whether there is a slighty hint about "female Witchers" mutants of that guild. From the knowlegde I got of these two books, it sounds quite strange there will be women with the same destiny.
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Actually.. Geralt is kind of Bountyhunting anything he gets paid for... (i mean finding lost boys in a swamp isn't really about killing monsters)... so i don't think the charakter would need to be in the "club" to work with Geralt. Heck, you even could use a Charakter like the Mistress of the Night or something similar. Both working to get rid of the curse that was cast uppon the woman... Maybe having the curse come from the same source as some "greater" evil... i don't talk about world rescuing. (I don't want to rescue the world all the time, it gets boring at some point) Maybe more talking about Rescue some Village.Mythology offers so many good ideas in general. From whole Villages Cursed to be cast aways from reality (greek gods did like to do something like that now and then) and having to offer some serene virgine to appease the God or something. So you have this virgine, that gets cursed because she refuses herself to the god (i mean in the game you get to talk to the lady of the sea/lake) or just some really mighty entitiy... Maybe something like Dagon / Wildhunt... similar options. And the Girl has to get in all battlegear, getting special powers from her curse... eventually turning her over the darkside.. (think about our Superhero Werewolf Crimefighter in the game) and working with Geralt to free her people and get rid of the curse.I mean thats just one of many possible Ideas how you could get it to work, without her needing to be a Witcher. Other option could be... you tag along this Elfen Princess/Queen story... about how she was supposed to marry that guy and create whatever other guy... you could have Geralt being entrusted to rescue a girl like this.. and her "bodyguard" tags along.. discovering she got some juju to weave about... could have her be able to selfstudy some of her magical potential, promising to search proper training once she is done, maybe get to learn some from Geralt... She does her Huntress thing while Geralt is about to squeeze some Informations from people (also from monsters... i somehow, kind of missed jokes like that... i think a witcher should have some non threatening, friendly, monsters to be squeezing out for informations about some baddies - you know... some little sentient demon/ghost/whatevertype of thing... geralt can be threatening to smoke him in place if he doesn't answer)... while she is out to seduce some merchant, learning about some conspirationcy... blabla... you could basically go everywhere and she doesn't have to be a witcher, if thats so much of a no-go. (Might even provide to be interresting)The Idea would be just.. you could make two versions, both telling the same story from a different point of view. That would be like you get the chance right now to play the story of Berengar. Geralt is following him... and Berengar seems to have had a lot of fun along the way too as you learned.Ever had an NPC you really liked and though: Hell i wonder how he/she got that information? (I mean especially if they tell you about how tricky it was to come by it... and how they had to do this and that to obtain the intelligence). The Idea would just be, you have two almost idendical games, could use the level setups and all like that, just with different "storys" merging into one and the same. Two sides of a Coin. Being fullgrown of a Story on its own, being even better of a story if you know both sides.Also you could built some new "fame" for a self created character, as just suggested a little earlier on, getting this "Saintlike" Reputation like Geralt had/has, along with his new Partner in "Crime".
 
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fluffyamoeba

Senior user
#77
Nov 1, 2007
It would certainly be nice to be able to have a female PC or other male character as the PC for the SDK. Partly because I vastly prefer being able to play female PCs - in fact male only protagonist is usually enough to make me not buy a RPG, unless it looks like it's going to be amazing. However, for being able to make new stories with the SDK it would be good to have the ability to change the PC, because it means you can create a mod that doesn't contradict the existing lore about Geralt's past and his character and also gives mod makers more options. As other people have said, the world in which the game is set is distinct from other RPGs, so I'm hoping it will inspire people to make interesting mods :)(as an aside, NWN1 and 2 and the Baldur's Gate games were all set in the same world, so they are going to have the same lore ;D )
 
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PapaLeo

Senior user
#78
Nov 1, 2007
An Editor would be a dream come true. The tool set is probably THE reason why Neverwinter Nights held my attention for so long ... being able to transport all the stories/adventures I developed with the Neverwinter tool set into the graphics of The Witcher would be just great.Apart from that ... I'd like to see a "content patch" that adds:- sortable inventory- ability to walk- one or two more mini-gamesFor an extension:An idea would be to create random missions for Geralt where he has to kill certain beast. The mission is randomly created, so Geralt first has to find out which beast he's facing and what works against it. He also never knows the countryside or the insides of the castle/dungeon.
 
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username_2060444

Senior user
#79
Nov 1, 2007
Carangil said:
For an extension:An idea would be to create random missions for Geralt where he has to kill certain beast. The mission is randomly created, so Geralt first has to find out which beast he's facing and what works against it. He also never knows the countryside or the insides of the castle/dungeon.
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Agreed. And how about a complete map? I mean, even when in Act 2, add the possibility to go back to the village of Act 1, or even revisit Kaer Morhen. What I mean is more freedom of movement and actions. In the books, the travels of Geralt between villages where sometimes interesting, finding monsters, people in danger, and so on. That should be in the game. Something like Oblivion or 2 Worlds, where you could visit the settlements without any particular order. A bigger world to explore, not just a few places.PS: I used Oblivion and 2 Worlds as an example of the extension of the world, not as an example of how The Witcher should be in gameplay. That way, it's quite fine as it is ;D
 
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donpatzone

Senior user
#80
Nov 1, 2007
Carangil said:
An Editor would be a dream come true. The tool set is probably THE reason why Neverwinter Nights held my attention for so long ... being able to transport all the stories/adventures I developed with the Neverwinter tool set into the graphics of The Witcher would be just great.Apart from that ... I'd like to see a "content patch" that adds:- sortable inventory- ability to walk- one or two more mini-gamesFor an extension:An idea would be to create random missions for Geralt where he has to kill certain beast. The mission is randomly created, so Geralt first has to find out which beast he's facing and what works against it. He also never knows the countryside or the insides of the castle/dungeon.
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There is already a possibility to walk...sort of.You have to control Geralt with your mouse and when pressing down the Shift-Key he will walk instead of running.There is no walking mode in Keyboard control mode which I am aware of though. :-\
 
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