I agree. That's why I have stated that they are more than convincing and good enough for their purposes (vehicling the emotions of the characters in an open world game.
I have to agree, they are surprisingly good. My two favorite examples recently (probably would've been better as gifs) are from the same scene in the January 15-minute demo.
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AC Unity has very good mocapped facial expressions, but those characters don't come near to the quality of Witcher 1 or 2, which had rather poor facial expressions. The sheer skill and amount of writing that put every character together in TW franchise is top notch, and that's the bread and butter of character making. Advanced facial expression? A very very welcomed cherry on the cake, but I have all the more appetite for the cake itself.
it's just performance capturing. nothing new
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there's no such thing as advanced facial expression. they're all using the same equipment and industry standard techniques. if they're doing performance capturing, it's going to look pretty much the same, unless someone screwed up. a likelihood fora ubisoft production, but unlikely anywhere else.
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Do they even performance capture/mocap it? I thought CDPR developed a system that moves bones and changes the facial structure depening on the line that is spoken...
And mocap is still expensive, the gear and people needed are not cheap. So it's not that standard or common as you might think.
(Especially facial capture)
As far as we know, it's not though.
CDPR uses "body" mocap for various animations throughout the game, but they aren't using FACIAL Mocap (Like GTAV, TLOU, MGSV etc). It's much more similar to say, Half-Life 2, it's part automated and part hand-crafted. Honestly I don't think we've seen this much improvement in regards to non-mocapped facial animation/expressions/lip-syncing since Half-Life 2 itself.
It's two different technologies, although they probably do come together, and may be applied at the same time.
There's been technology around for a long time to handle lip-synching, to move the mouth and jaw areas automatically based on the phonemes of the speech. I'd expect it to still need manual tweaking, but it does take a LOT of the work out of synching, especially where it's being localised into many languages.
Body language and facial expression still needs to be added though, and that's where the mocap comes in.
Just compare TW1, which I would expect to have used lip-synch tech but doesn't do much (any?) facial expression, to a modern game.
Yes, this is indeed one of the really amazing things about this game and the series in general. It probably has to do with really good animations and camera work combined with 'real' characters. The characters actually act like humans and aren't written to please the masses or be politically correct (which sadly enough is a huge trend).
Characters have to make real choices, have real reactions and just feel very.. well.. real.
. Very well done banter with here and there mean remarks which get couNter in a friendly manner. I don;t know about everyone else, but that's totally how I act around my friends. Unlike most other games where everyone has to be politically correct and always nice to each other - if you aren't nice once, YOU DUN GOOFED!
Characters have to make real choices, have real reactions and just feel very.. well.. real.
. Very well done banter with here and there mean remarks which get couNter in a friendly manner. I don;t know about everyone else, but that's totally how I act around my friends. Unlike most other games where everyone has to be politically correct and always nice to each other - if you aren't nice once, YOU DUN GOOFED!Got to agree, never saw such great face details and notions, no kidding.