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Fishing and Hunting

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Fishing and Hunting

  • Yes, I think a fishing minigame would fit better than a hunting mechanic

    Votes: 12 16.0%
  • Not quite, fishing should be in the game as well as hunting

    Votes: 29 38.7%
  • Yes but, Fishing should be fully fleshed and hunting should still be possible to traps

    Votes: 9 12.0%
  • No, I think a well developed hunting mechanic is better than fishing

    Votes: 18 24.0%
  • NO TO BOTH , ANIMALS ARE JERKS!!

    Votes: 7 9.3%

  • Total voters
    75
  • Poll closed Jan 1, 1970.
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#41
Apr 17, 2014
I'm sure Geralt'd be pretty good at tickling trout, if I can do it with my big clumsy paws then he certainly should be able to, suspect he might even be able to stalk deer and rabbits as well. Don't see him doing so if he can afford a good loaf, some tasty jerky and a jug of vodka though.
 
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DragomirG

Senior user
#42
Apr 17, 2014
But we certainly don't want the hunt in TW3 like the hunt in AC3!

Edit: Or in FC3
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#43
Apr 17, 2014
Blothulfur said:
I'm sure Geralt'd be pretty good at tickling trout, if I can do it with my big clumsy paws then he certainly should be able to, suspect he might even be able to stalk deer and rabbits as well. Don't see him doing so if he can afford a good loaf, some tasty jerky and a jug of vodka though.
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If tickling trout requires too much dexterity, he could always noodle for catfish.



Lucy Millsap on winning the Okie Noodling Tournament with a 72-pound catch,
"There was a lot of trash talk at the event," Millsap told the outlet. "Men would walk by and say slurs in my ear, say 'You couldn't catch that by yourself.' I had men go so far as to curse and cuss at me and stuff. I thought, 'Really? How big was the fish you weighed in? Thirty pounds? I thought so. Nice to meet you, too.'"
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This is somewhat dangerous with European catfish, which can get much bigger.
 
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DragomirG

Senior user
#44
Apr 20, 2014
Didn't wanted to post this because it creeps me out but I am also tempted for the bad joke:
https://www.google.fr/search?q=blob+fish&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=E5T&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LYRTU_CFMoy00wXGn4CoBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=596
Still wanna do your fishing? xD

P.S. It's a bad joke, I do want fishing ingame
 
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braindancer12

Rookie
#45
Apr 20, 2014
Ragnarous said:
Didn't wanted to post this because it creeps me out but I am also tempted for the bad joke:
https://www.google.fr/search?q=blob+fish&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=E5T&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LYRTU_CFMoy00wXGn4CoBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=596
Still wanna do your fishing? xD

P.S. It's a bad joke, I do want fishing ingame
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DragomirG

Senior user
#46
Apr 20, 2014
I didn't posted it in IMG because it is a bit shocking to some people. My personal opinion is that this is human semen mutated somehow in the river/ocean/sewer. Just look at it, what in the world is the chemical that did this...
 
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LD-Hard

Rookie
#47
Apr 25, 2014
Рыбалка и охота ,это всё отлично .
 
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dotaguy

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#48
Jun 13, 2014
They absolutely need to put fishing in there. It's an open world game after all.
 
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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#49
Jun 13, 2014
toadguy said:
They absolutely need to put fishing in there. It's an open world game after all.
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No shit who don't like fishing!
 
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Charza

Senior user
#50
Jun 13, 2014
I'd love to see both a fishing and hunting mechanic. Especially if it is combined with some kind of crafting system.
Survival like gameplay would be awesome in a game like this.
I also hope the wildlife will be diverse.
Think about games like Red Dead Redemption or Skyrim, where the worlds are full of wild life. Witcher games always had their fair share of animals, especially the first one. I hope this trend wil continue in Wild Hunt.
 
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Mohasz

Forum veteran
#51
Jun 13, 2014
I have a feeling we'll only get hunting, but on the other hand, they didn't show any side activities at E3. I still hope we get fishing.
 
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dotaguy

Rookie
#52
Jun 24, 2014
Fishing included?

I could spend 60 hours fishing in the game. It would dramatically increase the replayability and the duration of the game.
 
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Medy89

Senior user
#53
Jun 24, 2014
toadguy said:
I could spend 60 hours fishing in the game. It would dramatically increase the replayability and the duration of the game.
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Some ppl seem to like those minigames... for me I really dont care for those if they are not tied to the story... I guess monster hunting is a good method to make some orens... also probably alot more fun than fishing ... I think its the same think with the previous alchemy from w2 ... ppl didnt care for it since it was kind of unnecceary... i would rather hunt monsters or make horse races.. I just feel no excitement from those side activities.. Thats really not what im looking for in the witcher universe... I dont mind those for trying once .. but I think they should focus on more action packed minigames... I dont like the idea of geralt cooking or fishing or hunt animals for breakfast... this is stuff for games like sims ... i dont want to be bothered by having to eat and such... but this stuff wont make it in the game anyway... I just wonder whats going on .. if I read those comments...
Underwaterhunting, looking for treasure > fishing
 
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Juuuhan

Rookie
#54
Jun 24, 2014
While I'm a massive fishing nerd in video games, I'm going to address a couple of things.

First, does fishing fit with Geralt? I addressed something similar in this reply http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/30264-Hunger-Thirst-Sleep-amp-Notes?p=1326979#post1326979 mainly Point E but partly also F.
E; Features aren't necessary always a good thing. The sole purpose of this topic is added realism. The problem with this, is that Witcher is a game. It's not catered to be 100% realistic and it shouldn't be, especially if said features interfere with game play. Look at it from this way. Why doesn't CD RED implement a feature where Geralt could cut down trees? He can probably equip an axe and he could then use said axe to cut down trees to gain firewood to his fireplaces and also use it for torches etc (as well as creating forest fires etc). The reason is simple, it doesn't add to what Witcher is as a game (It's not Day Z, it's not Minecraft). It would be treated as a poor mechanics (Just as the stealth system was in Witcher 2 but even more out of context) and would be addressed as one of the annoying features that gamers get annoyed at.
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Geralt is a monster hunter, therefore he hunts monster, Geralt is however not a fisherman therefore this mechanic isn't equal compared to hunting. While Geralt isn't a horse racer either it's still a more plausible excuse for CD RED for Geralt to do. He might need money fast then why not. Fishing is mainly though strived for survival (Geralt making a actual living on fishing is a long process and wouldn't make sense with everything going on in the world) and as I stated earlier, this isn't Minecraft or Day Z, therefore Witcher 3 shouldn't pretend to be something it isn't.

Secondly, how do we implement this? It's been addressed time and time again that there won't be any QTE in Witcher 3. Fishing without QTE is rather dodgy though. What will judge whether Geralt gets a fish or not? Fishing games have always relied on having some sort of QTE (at least once you have a fish and intend to reel it in) even if something more simple like how it is in Minecraft were implemented it would mainly feel cheap. Like a rather unwanted mechanic that doesn't fit well with everything else in the game which will (most likely) be extremely polished and thought with massive care.

Thirdly, logic? If the sole purpose is to get food then we need a food mechanic (again I addressed this in the other topic, see above) which deter the gamers from more important features in the game (side-stories, main-story etc) and also takes time away from the developer to develop said features better. On the other hand if it will serve as a alternative "hunting" method then it will simply be a weaker one. You will either be eliminated to get some monsters from few specific areas on the beach (assuming not all monsters are "fish able" which they shouldn't from a game lore perspective) or a sort of combination of beach and the boat which still will be rather dumbfounded on how Geralt will know where each monster are above the surface and watching him sit there trying to dig up the sea Kraken with a fishing rod or a net would just feel off.

Honestly I only see two potential solutions where we won't have a bad mechanic that also doesn't contradict the no QTE policy and the Wither lore "policy"

A, Make some sort of quest related thing where Geralt will fish to find some item, but then again, how will this not feature a QTE event? The closest thing I can think of are something like you get alternatives where and when to fish with what sort of bait and then based on books and your own knowledge can solve this quest. This is however only good once or maybe twice before becoming redundant.

B, Address monster hunting where the sea and water also plays a role. This can be anything from Geralt knowing monster behaviour on certain areas to finding clues/tracks in the beach, on cliffs in the sea etc and use this in concoction with Monster Hunting where Geralt then slays the monster the Witcher way rather than with a net or fishing rod.

Unfortunately this isn't Fable or even Skyrim where fishing can make some sort of sense. Those games are highly flexible with your character where as The Witcher franchise is not, it's focus is the protagonist and the story and we need that those mini-games we get do make sense to the world but are also engaging and exiting for the community, so it doesn't just feel like a cheap attempt from CD RED to prolong the game with useless tat.
 
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Scholdarr

Banned
#55
Jun 24, 2014
Imho neither should be in the game. The reason is quite simple: without the actual need of eating (which very likely won't be in the game until somebody might mod it in) there is also no need for hunting or fishing. It would just be a tagged on system without any real purpose. Waste of time and money imo. ;)
 
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Sam44

Senior user
#56
Jun 24, 2014
LordCrash said:
Imho neither should be in the game. The reason is quite simple: without the actual need of eating (which very likely won't be in the game until somebody might mod it in) there is also no need for hunting or fishing. It would just be a tagged on system without any real purpose. Waste of time and money imo. ;)
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From the recent trailer hunting seems to be already in the game and fishing while relaxing on a shore or a sea boat wouldn't be a bad alternative for a lore friendly mini-game. I would love to see more smaller activities too, like being able to just sit on a bench and relax. Small things like that just add a lot to the immersion of a living open-world and it's still just up to the player to do that.
 
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Pedrolago

Rookie
#57
Jun 24, 2014
They could very well make fishing another minigame, just like horse racing and axe throwing, no need for it to be a full on mechanic(though I would really enjoy that)
 
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BroccoliSouP

Senior user
#58
Jun 24, 2014
Mohasz said:
I have a feeling we'll only get hunting, but on the other hand, they didn't show any side activities at E3. I still hope we get fishing.
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How about underwater fishing?

of monsters :troll:
 
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Scholdarr

Banned
#59
Jun 24, 2014
Red0oG said:
From the recent trailer hunting seems to be already in the game and fishing while relaxing on a shore or a sea boat wouldn't be a bad alternative for a lore friendly mini-game. I would love to see more smaller activities too, like being able to just sit on a bench and relax. Small things like that just add a lot to the immersion of a living open-world and it's still just up to the player to do that.
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I don't see animal hunting in any trailer tbh...

I think fishing is a waste of time and money. At least it's very low priority imo. There are other things that need the attention of CDPR...
 
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bigb131999

Rookie
#60
Jun 25, 2014
Both should be in. We know hunting is in, and if the two, that's the one I would prefer anyways. So because we have hunting, I won't be dissapointed if no fishing, but if they already have t implemented or have some free time, then great, go of fishing in addition to hunting. Also I remember reading one article that said hunting in the witcher 3 provided claws and furs to sell, as well as good to eat. I'm assuming that the apparent food system will be like skyrims, where it's optional but can boost stats.

Yes it will be pretty diverse with wildlife I think

Also guys, remember with the crossbow, we will now be able to hunt down and stalk animals a lot easier then swinging wildly with a sword while chasing them, like assassins creed...
 
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