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Aigisu-

Aigisu-

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#41
Jan 11, 2021
I got a bug in my game where if I upgraded away from rare (blue) gorilla arms, none of my blocks in-game stopped any damage. So I just said fuck it.

 
Lilguy_

Lilguy_

Fresh user
#42
Jan 12, 2021
MrDarth0 said:
I won all the fist fights fairly easy with 6 in Body and no cheating. Also turned off the stupid auto aim. You just have to be good at dodging and timing your defense and strikes.

Actually wish there would be more fist fights in the game. Like in Witcher 3 where you had several of them in each location.
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I did something very similar. It's just not very fun because of the weird hitboxes, bad controls (crouching when I want to dodge CONSTANTLY) and absurd enemy health bars. I loved most of the characters and scenarios.
 
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VirNR

VirNR

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#43
Jan 12, 2021
I loved the fist fights in TW3 but I just hate them is this game xD
 
Restlessdingo32

Restlessdingo32

Senior user
#44
Jan 12, 2021
Ayinde_Palmer said:
I believe you take extra dmg when you block without enough stamina, but I'm not completely sure
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I'm pretty sure it's bugged unless there is some mechanic getting missed.

In the fight with the twins things weren't too bad. The 3 second, running/jumping hero punches utterly destroyed any suspension of disbelief. You could at least perfect block these guys.

Then I got to Buck and noticed half the times a perfect block at full stamina doesn't stop his damage. You block the attack, he gets staggered and you still take damage. Dodging works but sometimes you dodge, watch this guy whiff at air and still take damage. Compounding matters, as far as I could tell he cycles through three action sets which appear to be scripted (two attack sets, one spam dodge set).

In the El Cesar fight I thought the mechanics were equally mystifying. Fighting him is ridiculously easy as keeping distance means he does yet another variation of the 3 second hero punch. At least this guy blinks around to land it. Even so, a simple dodge -> heavy hit -> 2-3 small hits -> rinse/repeat made this encounter trivial. The oddity here is, in my game, this guy inexplicably healed up to like 60% from 10% three times. Was his pregnant wife throwing him inhalers or something?

I could continue but, yeah.... The fights are non-intuitive, have questionable mechanics and have equally questionable animations in certain cases (that 3 second wind-up heavy punch is like... the worst way to throw a punch). Even the sponginess/healthbar of these guys makes the entire thing feel like a 30 minute chore. I could give some of this stuff a pass. I can't give the collective whole a pass. It's not good. Not good at all.
 
Mikeindeepspace

Mikeindeepspace

Fresh user
#45
Jan 12, 2021
i feel like melee was akin to skyrim only problem is skyrim came out almost a decade ago
 
Ayinde_Palmer

Ayinde_Palmer

Forum regular
#46
Jan 12, 2021
Restlessdingo32 said:
I'm pretty sure it's bugged unless there is some mechanic getting missed.

In the fight with the twins things weren't too bad. The 3 second, running/jumping hero punches utterly destroyed any suspension of disbelief. You could at least perfect block these guys.

Then I got to Buck and noticed half the times a perfect block at full stamina doesn't stop his damage. You block the attack, he gets staggered and you still take damage. Dodging works but sometimes you dodge, watch this guy whiff at air and still take damage. Compounding matters, as far as I could tell he cycles through three action sets which appear to be scripted (two attack sets, one spam dodge set).

In the El Cesar fight I thought the mechanics were equally mystifying. Fighting him is ridiculously easy as keeping distance means he does yet another variation of the 3 second hero punch. At least this guy blinks around to land it. Even so, a simple dodge -> heavy hit -> 2-3 small hits -> rinse/repeat made this encounter trivial. The oddity here is, in my game, this guy inexplicably healed up to like 60% from 10% three times. Was his pregnant wife throwing him inhalers or something?

I could continue but, yeah.... The fights are non-intuitive, have questionable mechanics and have equally questionable animations in certain cases (that 3 second wind-up heavy punch is like... the worst way to throw a punch). Even the sponginess/healthbar of these guys makes the entire thing feel like a 30 minute chore. I could give some of this stuff a pass. I can't give the collective whole a pass. It's not good. Not good at all.
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I enjoyed the fights, but the sponge factor is because they are tuned for people who invest in street fighting/body/athletics. When I went geared up on other playthroughs, I could blow up the other dudes easily. I haven't fought razor again yet, but I doubt he ll be that bad. They also have to make their dmg huge, because brawlers got high HP pools, and strong regen. Even with that, their big blows are meant to hurt you pretty bad, so for a normal, its probably a killer. My biggest beef is prolly the hitboxes.

I enjoy playing brawler build, so it was nice to have some content for it that was a little more challenging in a 1 v 1 way. (cant even block/counter much outside these fights)
 
Rudo_

Rudo_

Forum regular
#47
Jan 12, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Yes, I'd like to win legitimately. Also because I can't pick up the fucking bat and equip it on console.
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Dude, you can. Just press triangle
 
gefrast

gefrast

Fresh user
#48
Jan 12, 2021
I did the gig in the animals gym and, without knowing who it was, shot rhino in the head through a wall with my nekomata sniper rifle ... :ROFLMAO:

edit: ncpd didn't like that though
 
Hayashi.226

Hayashi.226

Forum veteran
#49
Jan 12, 2021
Did they patch out the cheese, where you drop a melee weapon then equip it when the fight starts?
 
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Mwatuangi

Mwatuangi

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#50
Jan 12, 2021
Ayinde_Palmer said:
I believe you take extra dmg when you block without enough stamina, but I'm not completely sure
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I literally have full stamina and still take damage. I tested this stuff. EDIT: As I mentioned, the damage was applied randomly due to how bugged the game is.
 
jvickers2001

jvickers2001

Fresh user
#51
Jan 13, 2021
I get beat up by everyone. If Snoopy were in the game, I am pretty sure he would beat me up in a fist fight... :(
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#52
Jan 13, 2021
Oh this is hilarious!

I actually attempted the weapon cheat to try to get past Razor.

It said ACTION BLOCKED.

I even tried it with a blunt weapon.

Hayashi.226 said:
Did they patch out the cheese, where you drop a melee weapon then equip it when the fight starts?
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It doesn't work for me, sadly.
 
Hayashi.226

Hayashi.226

Forum veteran
#53
Jan 13, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Oh this is hilarious!

I actually attempted the weapon cheat to try to get past Razor.

It said ACTION BLOCKED.

I even tried it with a blunt weapon.



It doesn't work for me, sadly.
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Yup I guess it got patched out in 1.06. Bummer :(
 
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