Corylea said:
Corylea said:
Mourning for these people and at the same time turning a blind eye on those hundreds of dead humans that die horrible deaths on daily base is an insanity I cannot brush aside.
Nearly all people care the most about those people whom they actually know or who have an effect on their lives. Nearly all people care considerably less about people they don't know. The human mind is limited and isn't really able to care deeply and in detail about seven billion people. Humans lived in small tribes of a couple of hundred people up until quite recently, and our minds evolved to care deeply about a couple of hundred people.I think it is quite callous to spit upon the Polish people while they are mourning the loss of so many of their important people. I don't think you meant it that way -- you meant to be humanitarian enough to care about everybody -- but lecturing people about caring for others when they're in the middle of mourning is not the way to spread humanitarianism.Poles are stunned and grieving, and with good reason. Be gentle, huh?
A rather astute observation, Corylea. And a far more diplomatically stated response than I would have likely provided had I been the first to answer Demut. (example: I recently horrified a Canadian on another forum with my drawing a distinction between the amount of respect I have for the lives of specific individual humans far exceeding my view of humanity as a species). You get a cookie (well, an Oren actually). To borrow a quote from Stalin (I do apologize for the poor timing of referencing him, given Katyn, but the phrase is an accurate summation of human response to tragedy): "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."As someone with a business education background, and who dabbles in anthropology as a hobby (my sister, on the other hand, did graduate-level anthropology work at Oxford), I'll note that, put simply: people don't deal well with big numbers. Big numbers are effectively meaningless in everyday life to most people. If I say, "The US National Debt is currently $12,839,351,491,504.14" that's a completely meaningless figure to most people. If, on the other hand, I say "Ticket prices have gone up at the movie theater, taking your girlfriend to see a film will now cost you $26 instead of $16," _that_ is the type of figure people can deal with. It has direct meaning on their everyday lives, and it's a number that people can understand. Or, to borrow a quote from my old medieval battlegames group's recruiting event: "And one of the best things about taking part in medieval recreation group is you don't need to count past three! Anything higher than three is simply "a lot". One, two, three, a lot. See how simple that is?"Tell folks that someone they knew -- even if it was just through the media and the voting booth -- has died, and it's something they can personally connect with. They can remember the good times with a friend/family member, or the actions of someone they knew of (such as a politician, actor, musician, writer, etc), have regrets for the unfinished works that person left behind, worry about what might happen to the individual's spouse or kids... In the case of this airplane crash, many of those aboard were known, and/or had an effect on the world outside of Poland. It's a tragedy that people, even those outside of Poland, can understand and react to -- though perhaps not necessarily in the same manner/for the same reasons as Polish citizens are. Put bluntly, it's a number that people can understand and the dead can be recognized as having been individuals with recognized accomplishments.Tell them thousands or millions of people have died in, to use your example, the Congo -- people that your average individual outside of the Congo have never met, never would have met, and have little in common with culturally; and that have all just been lumped together in a big "# dead in " headline in the paper -- and you'll receive nods of agreement as to how horrible the events were and perhaps offers to contribute to a charity involved with a relief effort (in the case of natural disasters) -- but there's nothing to give the listener the kind of personal reaction they might have to a smaller figure.I apologize if the above offends anyone, but it's simply an observation made on the nature of mankind's ability to deal with the two different situations.