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Based on this rather far fetched example, it then goes like this:
Fans: But how dare you not take my opinion about your marriage into consideration?
CDPR: I know you don't have a good opinion about this woman but I truly love her, I think we'll be happy together, have beautiful and wise children and I still want to marry her.
Fans: If so, don't even bother inviting me to your wedding because I'm not coming!
Youre talking about little imperfections but actually acknowledge that done to perfection FPP is the most immersive.
of course it is. i cant believe we are having this debate.
Lets get back to the debate of what should be in the game .
There's the thing that is called 'public relationships'. There's such thing as 'customer good will'.
Ofc no company is obligated to do it. But it looks very good when done right. And most companies want it. I'm sure, even EA does.
So why CDPR would not want it.
And then there's the issue with youtubers and what's not who wasted their time and effort promoting a game under false assumption they will be able to play it. If they knew - maybe they would direct their efforts towards other games.
So no matter CDPR's intent (and I doubt they meant ill) such situations can be interpreted as dishonest (lie by omission is still a lie). One would think they might want to avoid it and upkeep the image of 'gamer's champion'.
But if they do not care about public perception - why is anyone surprised by backlash?!
Please don't present your opinion as a fact. Immersion is subjective by default.
Already confirmed driving can/will be TP, don't remember where they said it.
That's got nothing to do about immersion. It just that you're obsessed with seeing your character, and you're used to playing in third person as a preference. So you're not seeing things rationally. First person perspective is always more immersive when fov is above 85: you see much more details, the scale of the world is bigger, you can look up or down, etc. It's not even comparable..Unless I missed it where someone was able to quantify the immersiveness of FP vs TP that is actually the definition of subjective. Nothing pulls me out of the game experience faster than watching two floating hands in front of my face everywhere I look. Who does that irl?For me personally TPP is much more immersive.
That's ONE person opinion. The majority has no problems with FPP, that's the point.
And it is hilarious, because driving is the very only thing that should have been first person, lol.
GTA showed us how well third person driving works...
It got a research grant from the government. When something needs 12,894,009.62 Poland złoty (3,517,336.25 USD at current exchange rates as of today) to be researched, it's likely something that is in uncharted waters.
Also, by applying for and obtaining that grant, the government becomes a key stakeholder in the successful research of that technology. Why would the government fund unoriginal 'research' that could be copypasted?
I have included the link to the document used to apply for that grant below:
http://www.ncbr.gov.pl/gfx/ncbir/userfiles/_public/fundusze_europejskie/inteligentny_rozwoj/gameinn/lista_rankingowa_3_1.2_2016_poir__gameinn.pdf
Description of 'Seamless Online Multiplayer' in the document translated by Google Translate:
comprehensive technology for creating a unique one multiplayer games, including search for opponents, session management, replication of objects and support of various game modes together with a unique one a set of dedicated tools
As mentioned earlier, Mixed TPP/FPP has been implemented in games like Fallout and Skyrim. It is not vague or general at all since there are concrete and workable examples of it.
What the hell are you on about?
They said it was first person the first time rhey released the first real info about the game. Which was 2 days ago. If you are "disappointed" it's your own fault for having run wild with your imagination and expected 3d person just because The Witcher was in 3d person.
No one ever said this was going to be The Witcher with guns.
Going through these comments are painful. We get it, you don't like a fpp and won't buy this game, it's not going to change anything. I think it's good that they're going the fpp route, and even though I too would like the option to switch between the two, I think we should just let CPR do their thing. I'm sure they know what they're doing after the masterpiece that is The Witcher 3.
They've even stated that you'll have many opportunities to see your character and that it's a role playing game, not a first person shooter. Besides, look at all the praise the game is getting from those that have watched the gameplay demo, people are loving it. Bear in mind that this is only the demo as well, meaning that the full game will feature lots of content that aren't available in the demo.
Have some faith in the dudes making the game, I for one think it's going to be amazing.
They've even stated that you'll have many opportunities to see your character and that it's a role playing game, not a first person shooter. Besides, look at all the praise the game is getting from those that have watched the gameplay demo, people are loving it. Bear in mind that this is only the demo as well, meaning that the full game will feature lots of content that aren't available in the demo.
Have some faith in the dudes making the game, I for one think it's going to be amazing.
It is mix you drive in TPP
This is way they didn't talked about game a lot they didn't promise things will that might not end up in game. And yes i don't see how they promised it will be TPP while you explore city in streets or combat or anything else. I don't see any drastic change. Its still a mix of TPP/FPP you drive from TPP.
and? this drastic change is just drastic for few people. They never sad get ready for 3rd person rpg.
For my opinion is nice for them not to say anything maybe, early they wanted much more to put in game and didn't want promise thins which end up not being in the game. Development is hard thing look at game like Starcraft: Ghost looked playible, hyped for and still scraped and cancelled.
So now they are "bad" guys because they didn't made discussion you personally want? Even calling them "good guys". Its they make commercial product. I am happy they doing with passion and without anti-consumer bullshit, but it can always change.
No kidding, that is F-d up, I learned more about this game watching her youtube channel then anywhere else. She put out a couple in depth videos a week if not more. Hope she can somehow play it, maybe partially and watch rest on some let's plays.
Really? When I look down I see two hands (attached to arms that go to the side of my FOV) typing this text on a keyboard.Unless I missed it where someone was able to quantify the immersiveness of FP vs TP that is actually the definition of subjective. Nothing pulls me out of the game experience faster than watching two floating hands in front of my face everywhere I look. Who does that irl?
Do you mean that's not real? That in reality I should hover behind my body seeing that body typing text?
And that's the real actual reality?
Do you mind that I am somewhat confused now?
This is a plain simple technicality.
If 99% of the stuff is FPP, and 1% is TPP, it is NOT mixed perspective. Please don't take people for idiots.
Skyrim is mixed perspective, because you can do THE SAME STUFF in first or third person.
Literally every single multi-player game nowadays has those functionalities. So, as you say, it has been implemented in games like Overwatch and Battlefield(and many more). It is not vague or general at all since there are concrete and workable examples of it.
Agreed. They just lost so much goodwill in my eyes. When the leaks in regards to FPP happened, an employee could have come out and said they were true and today we would not be having this discussion. I also believe everything about this game is being exaggerated by the youtubers due to their knowledge of how much fandom that Witcher has and any positive video regards to Cyberpunk will generate more views.
Lastly why did a Cd projekt Red employee said they are listening to the feed back when they admit in interviews they will and cannot change the perspective. So why listen when you already know nothing can be done?
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