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Heh, cant help but find this funny.
Nobody is saying the game wont be good, that it wont have this or that - only our preferences and attitudes towards FP (for me specifically FP in rpgs). How is that based on lack of information? Are you saying first person in this game will somehow be magically different so everybody who prefers third person will instantly change their mind when they see what it's like?
A part of the complaints is born out of fear for the melee combat.
Most of those fears are well founded since, well , we don't have a clue how its gonna look.
The same for the people that fear motion sickness, we don't know how shaky the camera will be and so on.
Lack of information promotes valid fears.
Ain't played a first-person game that hasn't set me off yet, so either first person itself is a "crappy camera" or you're just boasting from a limited point of knowledge and understanding. Same goes for Field of View. I've repeatedly stated so, but I'll do it again: I've messed with FOV settings to hell and high water, with zero satisfying results.
So no, I won't be 'good to go'.
You really just proved my point. Where does he say, not now or in the future?
Hiya, Metal, buddy.
I didn't recognize you without your kitty avatar. Get it back.I know you probably weren't referring to me, but I'm actually very much OK with the game being FPP in the sense that I'm not arguing about it, whining, or overreacting.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm just asking CDPR to add a couple small "accessibility" options that reduce the problem (wider FOV -- 110, specifically -- and a no-head-bob option). I'm actually kind of interested in seeing how they pull it off. It'll definitely be unique, I just want to be able to fully enjoy it and not get sick.
The cause is not just FOV. I don't know what to tell you. It just isn't.
Camera shaking/bobbing is another huge factor, probably actually the biggest factor.
Wouldn't that be grand?Maybe it will be so good you wont mind playing with a bucket or two next to you
as I mentioned, you're one of the unlucky few who cant bridge the gap between acceptable First person FOV and third Person FOV. there is a gap you cant just crank your FOV up to 170 in first person. but if you COULD, it would probably help. its still a field of view issue, its just that First person jumps from like a max playable FOV of 120 to like essentially 180 FOV in third person. that's 60ish degrees of play you're missing. If you compressed a third person game to 90 FOV (most wont, but try it if you play PC and can edit ini files), I guarantee you'd get motion sick there too.
As far as I'm concerned, you're the only person in this entire thread with a legitimate gripe though.
"Will be" is future tense. But what you're arguing here is that anything CDPR didn't specifically say might happen. Well, I mean, sure. They never said Geralt can't open a portal into Night City and ride Roach into Totentantz. They never said they'll remove first person mode and instead of adding third person mode, add second person and fourth person modes. They never said they won't just change all the characters into stick figures.
I mean, you're arguing that even though they said that there will be no third person mode (I've quoted them too many times now to do it again), there might still be a third person mode, so by that logic, even though they've said there will be no paid DLCs, there might be paid DLCs.
This is pointless. If you don't trust what they say and agree with the meaning of the words that they use to communicate, then what's the point of debating.
"This game is.." *hurk* "..sho immurg.." *bluh* "..shib.. I wub it..!"
head bobbing and camera shaking are neither exclusive to First person nor in every first person game. the base cause is FOV. as I said, there's an unbridgeable gap between the max playable FOV of a first person game and the default of a third person game. Some people like you will fall in between and there's nothing you can do about it. but there's no intangible feature of first person that causes it, its an FOV thing. the problem is that you can't just increase FOV in first person without warping the image after a while.
I mean no disrespect to the individual(s?) you are discussing this with, but yes, it's best to drop it. I see what you're saying and many of us see what you're saying, but it's clear this this is not going to go anywhere. You are simply going to work yourself up, and it's not worth it. :/
I cant speak to every single objection and the individual experience that led to it but I've read almost all the posts here and most boil down to preference. Other than that I think 1 person worried about melee and one or two others cant play because of motion sickness.
I don't mind getting worked up, and that's not happening any time soon, but it's doing no favors for this thread, so I'm done with that exchange indeed.
Your logic still doesn’t make since. You’re saying that they are confirming something won’t be on a unfinished product that they haven’t even shown to the public. And adding stick figures to the game is totally insignificant to what I’m saying. You said it’s “confirmed “ they won’t be adding third person to the game ever based on the words they said. If they meant they’d never add it, they’d say that. That’s all I’m saying. Don’t YOU confirm anything CDPR didn’t tell us. Until one of them comes on and says there will never be a third person mode added. It’s an unfinished product. They just confirmed what it already is. Discussion over.
Also very disappointed. People making some comparison on EoS/Fallout but, both games HAS TPP mode. In Fallout 4, the most recent released, a VERY GOOD TPP Mode with Ok character physics.
Almost 6 year after the teaser trailer from the E3, not a single glimpse from CDPR about FPP (This is a design choice, so they could talk about it a long time ago) and then, when we are (Near the release?) or at least more close to it, they just talk, yeah no TPP.
I mean, a loooooooooot of time with total silence to just say that it's really a shame. I Like the Dev, the games, pre-ordered The Witcher 3 almost a year BEFORE the oficial release, but this new is a very sad one to me.
And they say CP will not be slow paced as Fallout but nothing like Doom, in the middle term, it sounds EXATCLY like a Battlefield/COD-Combat like. Here we have some options, or this guys are just genious and will reinvent the RPG with FPP or this will be just a shooter customizable like Crysis.
Almost 6 year after the teaser trailer from the E3, not a single glimpse from CDPR about FPP (This is a design choice, so they could talk about it a long time ago) and then, when we are (Near the release?) or at least more close to it, they just talk, yeah no TPP.
I mean, a loooooooooot of time with total silence to just say that it's really a shame. I Like the Dev, the games, pre-ordered The Witcher 3 almost a year BEFORE the oficial release, but this new is a very sad one to me.
And they say CP will not be slow paced as Fallout but nothing like Doom, in the middle term, it sounds EXATCLY like a Battlefield/COD-Combat like. Here we have some options, or this guys are just genious and will reinvent the RPG with FPP or this will be just a shooter customizable like Crysis.
I don't mind getting worked up, and that's not happening any time soon, but it's doing no favors for this thread, so I'm done with that exchange indeed.
..hah! I just realized you were arguing with someone called 'Wall'.
I noticed that too, but I got a warning earlier so I figured I wouldn't comment on it.
Eh, I've not intent of it being an insult - I just think the wordplay is fun.I noticed that too, but I got a warning earlier so I figured I wouldn't comment on it.
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