Future Allies

[crimzonwarrior]

Future Allies

At the end of Witcher 2 there was 3 major factional endings possible. The Wizard society of the north could reunified, Upper Aedirn could be turned into a unified state of free elves, humans, dwarves, trolls, and all lead by a dragon. Or Temeria could be restored. If these endings are properly represented in the witcher 3 that means we have got very powerful allies. Which group would you want backing you up, and how would like their help to show up in the witcher 3.

 

[Daeron87]

Possibly none, if the choice is given. I felt really tired at the end of W2 ( in a good way ). All those monarchs and powerhungry magic users can go plough themselves.

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I felt sorry for Saskia though. She was among the few I liked. So I guess if I had the chance, I'd might sign up with her. Depends on how things are going to play out and what reasoning is going to be presented. Although, I believe a lot of events will have been changed, with the invasion and all that.

 

[EcoSeis]

Come on... How it is that there isn´t a neutral option? This is The Wicther.

I´m on the witchers side.

Note: TW2 endings affects the world, but I think you will have choices all over again.

 

[GuyNwah]

None of the poll choices; Geralt makes common cause only with his friends, except as circumstances force him to serve kings and kingdoms. He might include Saskia among his friends, so long as she is free of the sorceresses, but serving Upper Aedirn is not his way either.

He's spent the time since he got away from the Wild Hunt being variously ploughed by the Order of the Flaming Rose, the entire power structure of Temeria, the Scoia'tael, the Lodge of Sorceresses, and the kings of Kaedwen and Redania, and frankly, he's had it up to his well-muscled keister with the lot of them.

 

[dragonbird]

Allies against whom?

All of these groups have their own agenda, so there's no reason why they would necessarily support Geralt in his and, with the possible exception of Saskia, none of them are likely to be acknowledging Geralt as the reason why they're OK or feel indebted to him. We may know that Temeria only survived because of Geralt's choices, because we've played all paths of the game, but do the Temerians know that?

And whatever happened at the end of TW2, time has passed and the Nilfgaardian invasion changed everything. I expect decisions made in TW2 to be acknowledged, but not to have any significant impact.

 

[Scholdarr]

I miss "none of them"...

Anyway, all three options are pretty weak. Temeria is crushed, Upper Aedirn a "hippy dream" and the lodge more or less dissolved (with most members dead).

 

[RC-07]

Well... Upper Aedern is crushed in my main playthrough... At least Saskia is alive and with Iorveth... I gave Anais to Natalis, so no Conclave for me... And the trailer shows the Emperor in Vizima's throne room... Yeah, not cool. :/

 

[crimzonwarrior]

I miss "none of them"...

Anyway, all three options are pretty weak. Temeria is crushed, Upper Aedirn a "hippy dream" and the lodge more or less dissolved (with most members dead).

Hippy Dream lol? A kingdom based off equality lead by a near immortal monarch dragon with rapidly expanding influence over the area. Not a dream potentially the seed of a northern empire that will take over the essentially destroyed nearby northern kingdoms, and turn into something far worse than than Nilfgarrd could ever hope to be.

 

[crimzonwarrior]

Allies against whom?

All of these groups have their own agenda, so there's no reason why they would necessarily support Geralt in his and, with the possible exception of Saskia, none of them are likely to be acknowledging Geralt as the reason why they're OK or feel indebted to him. We may know that Temeria only survived because of Geralt's choices, because we've played all paths of the game, but do the Temerians know that?

And whatever happened at the end of TW2, time has passed and the Nilfgaardian invasion changed everything. I expect decisions made in TW2 to be acknowledged, but not to have any significant impact.

Triss, and Yennifer are both widely recognized sorceress's with heavy political clout, and could easily guilt trip the newly founded group into backing up Geralt in the future. Saskia as you mentioned had her life personally saved by Geralt, and Temeria has Vernen Roach in a high political position that could back up Geralt if need be.

 

[arkblazer]

The only one that i can see Geralt allying himself with that you mentioned in the poll Is upper aedirn, simply because Geralt has alot dwarven bro's.

Saskia isnt even all that nice to you. In fact when you saved her she even turned out to be quite the B****. telling you that you are not welcomed to stay on her kingdom even when while she allows the Scoiatel.

no if id have to say where Geralt would align himself Would be either with Nilfgaard or With the Skellige isles both for the same obvious reason.

 

[GuyNwah]

Well, the dialogue where Saskia supposedly says you should make like a guest and leave soon is a bad translation. She actually says, properly translated, "maybe you would like to settle there?" Her offer, understood this way, is characteristic of her boldness and contempt for superstition. Certainly nobody else wants a witcher moving in and settling down.

But I don't see Geralt taking her up on her offer, sincere or well or badly translated or whatever it is. And if he were to make common cause with the dwarves, he would go to Mahakam.

 

[BogusJuan]

I figure the north will end up putting aside differences and unite behind somebody competent like Natalis, no matter the state of the region leftover form W2.

 

[Bellator Pius Gratus]

It totally depends on how all factions are presented in Witcher 3. Who pushes whom around? Whom do I find the 'better' man, or shall I say 'lesser' evil? Must I choose or can I turn a blind eye and not get involved? Is turning a blind eye equal to letting people get hurt? Why wouldn't I want to get involved and how many dies when I turn a blind eye? This is something CDPR are experts at letting me ponder, and I feel for my choices and any consequences they have.

I have no sympathy for any murderers whether you call them terrorists or freedom fighters, but that didn't stop me from joining Yaevinn and helping the Scoia'tael in Witcher 1. To me this was logical and hell, even warranted. Maybe it's the writing apart from my own personality, but it felt right. I'm sure many choosing the opposite faction or staying neutral in Witcher 1 can say the same about their choices. Canon this canon that, this is my adventure!:harhar: Each and every player of the games can say the same, it's their adventure and their choices, and CDPR are great for letting us choose our own path. :thumbsup:

In Witcher 2 Scoia'tael was not even a potential ally, and I went with Roche's path. In the end I saved Iorveth, to his surprise of course but not mine, as he was never my enemy. "This doesn't change anything"(or something like that) he said, but I'm sure it did. It's CDPR after all.

I guess it all depends on how the devs manage to pluck and tug at my heartstrings concerning possible allegiances. I felt sorry for Yaevinn in Witcher 1. He had tried to adapt, only to be met by ignorance and persecution, and we had a common cause against the Order.

Same with Roche, and even if I owed no allegiance to Foltest I was saddened by those turn of events, and went after a kingslayer without becoming one myself.

So I look forward to see many alive and well in Witcher 3. Some are outright bastards, yes, but others are possible allies. First dibs on potential allies in Witcher 3 however will probably go out to Geralt's friends of course. Vesemir, Eskel, Lambert, Berengar(?) and of course Triss, Yennefer and Ciri can all count on my help.

Allies against whom?

How about the King of the Wild Hunt?

Before you make a far better and knowledgeable rebuttal, and say too much on the topic, take into consideration that I(as reader of two books, soon to be four books) have no idea who or what this

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Eredin(?)

is but the name. Nor do I know this band of ghostly riders, Naglfar(and it clearly is Naglfar), and why they are doing what they are doing, and what they are about.

Hell, maybe the King of the Wild Hunt will be an ally and a swell friend? I simply don't know, but I've yet the knowledge to actually know what this is all about, also have I avoided any spoilers on the topic. So far.

To me, and what I know from the games, the King of the Wild Hunt seems to be my main enemy in Witcher 3. Others will possibly do much to also rub me the wrong way(Nilfgaard) and they will also be enemies if I find them to continue to push people around.

But the King of the Wild Hunt is my answer to your question.

 

[StaGiors]

I would assume that the Witchers would be his "allies". Geralt will be chasing the Wild Hunt, or will be chased by them at some point. The people that are most suited to help him are witchers.

That being said, help from other characters is not excluded. For example spies like Dijkstra, Mages like Triss/Yennefer or even the Emperor himself. Hell even some of his old "enemies" might help him, like Phillipa or Sile. Letho could be placed in the same category too, but he wasn't really Geralt's enemy.

But the word "allies" is what is bugging me here. I view them as friends and contacts, that help Geralt. It is not like they have signed a treaty to do so though.

Keep in mind that CDPR creates very intricate characters, whose motives are not always clear, so they might help Geralt, and at the same time acting against Geralt's goals.

 

[Vigilance.492]

None of the poll choices; Geralt makes common cause only with his friends, except as circumstances force him to serve kings and kingdoms. He might include Saskia among his friends, so long as she is free of the sorceresses, but serving Upper Aedirn is not his way either.

He's spent the time since he got away from the Wild Hunt being variously ploughed by the Order of the Flaming Rose, the entire power structure of Temeria, the Scoia'tael, the Lodge of Sorceresses, and the kings of Kaedwen and Redania, and frankly, he's had it up to his well-muscled keister with the lot of them.

Pretty much this and agreed 100%. This isn't some Mass Effect conflict where Geralt is running around unifying the North to fight against Nilfgaard. I'd like to hope he's now ignoring these conflicts as best as possible and going right after The Wild Hunt and finding his friends/loved ones. Not to say there won't be any political stuff Geralt get involves in during the game, but hopefully it'll be somewhat subdued compared to TW2 and to a much lesser extent TW1.

However just for the fun of the poll I voted Upper Aedirn. If we were in some alternate Witcher Universe where Geralt was to pick sides, settle etc, then Upper Aedirn would be the place for me simply because of Saskia being awesome and that troop of Bro Dwarves.

 

[ostmurk]

No Saskia's free Pontar? That vote is rigged, but I would have voted for Temeria anyway. Stennis can't be trusted.

 

[BroccoliSouP]

I would preffer faction called Ciri. Nothing beats time travel man.

 

[Scholdarr]

Hippy Dream lol? A kingdom based off equality lead by a near immortal monarch dragon with rapidly expanding influence over the area. Not a dream potentially the seed of a northern empire that will take over the essentially destroyed nearby northern kingdoms, and turn into something far worse than than Nilfgarrd could ever hope to be.

Near immortal monarch dragon? Ahem no, this dragon is pretty mortal...

Nilgaard could invade and conquer Upper Aedirn in the blink of the second. Such a "noble" state has imo no future in a world war. And Kaedwen and Redania don't give a crap about equality. They care about power themselves, that's all.

 

[HeelPower]

Lady Eilhart can command Geralt with the blink of an eye.

The sad thing is I feel like we'll ever be friends with her

 

[BroccoliSouP]

Lady Eilhart can command Geralt with the blink of an eye.

Like that?