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Game Journalism - Unfit for purpose?

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    Votes: 74 37.6%
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    Votes: 73 37.1%
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,681
Jan 14, 2015
Mataresa said:
Can you link or post screen shots?
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I'll look around this weekend.
 
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C0bR

Senior user
#1,682
Jan 14, 2015
https://archive.today/VcT0m

This is a candidate for the worst article of all time
 
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soldiergeralt

Forum veteran
#1,683
Jan 15, 2015
from the comments section:
http://i.imgur.com/1co4ES7.jpg

pulling that crap on a website called pcgamer=invitation to get slapped down.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,684
Jan 15, 2015
Australia bans Hotline Miami 2, because 16 bit blood will cause people to kill.

[video]https://archive.today/RlZfH[/video]

And here I thought democratic values had reached most continents.
 
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Doctalen

Rookie
#1,685
Jan 15, 2015
slimgrin said:
Australia bans Hotline Miami 2, because 16 bit blood will cause people to kill.

[video]https://archive.today/RlZfH[/video]

And here I thought democratic values had reached most continents.
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Wonder if Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain will be totally banned. Has some heavier shit in it than that
 
Damariel

Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,686
Jan 16, 2015
[video=youtube;at-Z-wvFcDo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at-Z-wvFcDo[/video]

It's about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyncf3DBUQ
I don't even care to make [video] of it.... any moderator can change it if he/she want...I don't.
 
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Doctalen

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#1,687
Jan 16, 2015
They deleted TotalBiscuits upvoted as hell comment on the ABC youtube video. Holy shit. Not the entire comment but the support was there

 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,688
Jan 16, 2015
Here we are:
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KingHochmeister

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#1,689
Jan 16, 2015
Docttj said:
They deleted TotalBiscuits upvoted as hell comment on the ABC youtube video. Holy shit. Not the entire comment but the support was there
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"Yeah, let's delete the comment of the most upvoted user in the comments section that has 1.5 million subscribers that he won't possibly make a video about this incident so no harm will be done to us!"

Not only are they idiots with journalism degrees, they actually think they can get away with this, HAHAHAHA
 
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Totalimmortal

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#1,690
Jan 16, 2015
Damariel Alunnar said:
It's about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyncf3DBUQ
I don't even care to make [video] of it.... any moderator can change it if he/she want...I don't.
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Although I cringed and laughed my way throughout the video, the dislike bar+glorious comment section (at least before ABC turn comments off) is giving me hope in humanity in general.
Allow me to rant a bit (I still haven't watched the MundaneMatt's reply video so I maybe making a mistake with doing this rant):
There are so many things wrong with this video, I don't even know where to begin.
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First four seconds of the video, the newsanchor says that there are violent depictions of women being beaten, raped, and run over by cars. I do not know of a game where you can "beat" women (as in domestic violence), rape (that's a total taboo), and running them over with a car is just an option you have to do with random pedestrians, not just women. GTA and Saint's Row are open world games where you can murder anyone on the street. You don't have to do it, but you have the option to do it. If someone tells me this is anything more than mindless fun, then they don't know what they're talking about. Plus, in SR you can create a female character and be the boss of the gang, and you can also only target male individuals on the street, beating them up, killing them, running them over, etc. I never heard anyone complain about that. But if it's the other way around, "Oh, harassment! Misogyny!"
The death and rape threats are bullshit, though. These are gamers, not mafiozzi who would threaten to kill and then really publicly execute someone. However, I disagree with this practice. It's a few stupid idiots doing it, thus "proving their point"; and when the whole thing inevitably gets blown out of proportion, they get to claim that all gamers are violent criminals, which is obviously not the case.
Hm... interesting that a "strong, independent" woman needs male escort. Why not ask for a few females to guard her. You know, maybe some women who are 160 and weigh 50 kilos. I mean, obviously they are as strong as men are... And obviously the only differences are introduced by society. She doesn't seem to have a huge problem with playing the "damsel in distress" being "rescued" by the men. She's not a hypocrite, at all...

Oh, and she doesn't dissect games... She lies through her teeth and takes things out of context, like the thing with Hitman where she basically said you had to kill the strippers in the Vixen Club... Even though the game actually penalizes you for doing it. So, yeah, that's bullshit.
"Especially the bodies of female prostitutes..." How many games have female prostitutes in order for that to be a thing?And are we "slut shaming" them in the process of running over them? Are they endangered species or something?
Oh, the Watch_Dogs thing is just bullcrap. First of all, you don't have to wait for her to be murdered. You can save her before that. Second, you also save plenty of men. So that's bullshit and again taken out of context to support her conclusion. Hey, Anita, the conclusion comes last, not first. Try that next time.

"This is fantasy; lighten up." "That's a fun argument." Well, exactly the same argument as you're making, only backwards. You're saying there is a serious issue, and we say there isn't. The only difference is that we can support our claims with actual data, which makes this "fun argument" way heavier than your bullshit.
Ultimately, it's about having fun. You sit down for an hour or two and play (and should be able to play) whatever you want, even if that thing is sick, preverted or whatever. As long as you're not hurting anyone IRL, it's all cool.
Telling developers what to do is like telling writers what to write. "I don't like how sorceresses are represented in TW universe. They need to change." Fuck off... If you don't like it, don't read it. Seriously, it's that easy. Don't like it? Don't get involved with it.
You can't go ahead and tell people what to think and what to create.

slimgrin said:
Australia bans Hotline Miami 2, because 16 bit blood will cause people to kill.

[video]https://archive.today/RlZfH[/video]

And here I thought democratic values had reached most continents.
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And the glorious dev's response to that: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/01/hotline-miami-2-developer-to-censored-australians-just-pirate-it/
 
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Blothulfur

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#1,691
Jan 16, 2015
The above post wins Blothulfur's prize for pitch perfect mix of passion and piss taking, well done and have a beer on me.
 
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Totalimmortal

Senior user
#1,692
Jan 16, 2015
Blothulfur said:
The above post wins Blothulfur's prize for pitch perfect mix of passion and piss taking, well done and have a beer on me.
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Ohoh, rants do pay off I see, and If the beer in question is a pint of cold stout, you made me a very happy man. Cheers

Edit: (I almost made a royal screw-up and put in an emoticon. Is at least cheers emoticon allowed?)
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,693
Jan 16, 2015
Smileys fine here, not really a hard and fast rule at Bloths, because there aren't any rules.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,694
Jan 16, 2015
King_Hochmeister said:
"Yeah, let's delete the comment of the most upvoted user in the comments section that has 1.5 million subscribers that he won't possibly make a video about this incident so no harm will be done to us!"

Not only are they idiots with journalism degrees, they actually think they can get away with this, HAHAHAHA
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And this kind of behavior is despicable. Do they think people can't see through a farce, or that their holy word can't be challenged? It feels like bizarro world to me. I get the sense gamers were willing to move on, but the press just won't let it go and the whole thing keeps snow balling.



I wonder if someone in PR at Intel got a stern talking to. All the deleted comments from the ABC vid:

https://imgur.com/gallery/iX00h/new
 
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KingHochmeister

KingHochmeister

Forum veteran
#1,695
Jan 16, 2015
slimgrin said:
And this kind of behavior is despicable. Do they think people can't see through a farce, or that their holy word can't be challenged? It feels like bizarro world to me. I get the sense gamers were willing to move on, but the press just won't let it go and the whole thing keeps snow balling.



I wonder is someone in PR at Intel got a stern talking to.
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They thought gamers were easy people to talk down, they thought wrong :p

HAHAHAH, McIntosh being McIntosh, holy shit he is so retarded, "Let's not celebrate the death of a crazy fanatic because they will most likely kill me if I do, but let's celebrate the death of a non-warmongering person by calling him a warmonger".

Sometimes I just wonder how the hell those idiots came to be in the spotlight? The media helped them for obvious reasons, but holy shit, the idiocy of these people is way beyond my comprehension at this point.


Edit: I re-read about Christopher Hitchens and what he stood for, and I posted some mistakes, but the same principle still applies to that idiot in many things other than this one, unfortunately.
 
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His_Majesty

Senior user
#1,696
Jan 16, 2015
King_Hochmeister said:
Sometimes I just wonder how the hell those idiots came to be in the spotlight? The media helped them for obvious reasons, but holy shit, the idiocy of these people is way beyond my comprehension at this point.
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Sadly there is a pretty vocal group in gaming craving for censorship and political correctness and with Sarkeesian they have found someone to follow. It's not surprising that the media has jumped on this bandwagon, we all remember Jack Thompson and the Mass Effect 'controversy'. What's more disturbing is that a lot of game developers and journalists (notably the San Francisco scene, seems like a place to avoid) are preaching her word.

There’s no such thing as sexism against men. That's because sexism is prejudice + power. Men are the dominant gender with power in society.
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How deluded must you be to agree with such misandric comments?

On another note, her critique on Hitman: Absolution is amazingly dishonest. She talked about how the game encourages you to treat the female dancers from the club level as objects and that 'players are meant to derive a perverse pleasure from desecrating the bodies of unsuspecting virtual female characters.' Everyone who has played Absolution knows that you get a score reduction for killing civilians, whether they be male or female. All her videos are full of these lies and half-truths, she holds a game towards a sexism filter, cherry picks certain parts out of context and unleashes a sexism speech on them.
 
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KingHochmeister

Forum veteran
#1,697
Jan 16, 2015
KingXVI said:
Sadly there is a pretty vocal group in gaming craving for censorship and political correctness and with Sarkeesian they have found someone to follow. It's not surprising that the media has jumped on this bandwagon, we all remember Jack Thompson and the Mass Effect 'controversy'. What's more disturbing is that a lot of game developers and journalists (notably the San Francisco indie scene) are preaching her word.
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I really tried to understand why though, I really tried, is this something related to the area being crazy, or the Hipster culture in general? I have no idea anymore :p
 
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Totalimmortal

Senior user
#1,698
Jan 16, 2015
slimgrin said:
I wonder is someone in PR at Intel got a stern talking to. All the deleted comments from the ABC vid:

https://imgur.com/gallery/iX00h/new
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Wait, although I support the archiving of comments, kudos on the pic collection, I still see all of these comments when I go to the YT ABC vid. None are deleted, is it my cookies or ?
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,699
Jan 16, 2015
Totalimmortal said:
Wait, although I support the archiving of comments, kudos on the pic collection, I still see all of these comments when I go to the YT ABC vid. None are deleted, is it my cookies or ?
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I don't see them. That is weird. And people are rapidly copy pasting the deleted ones, but I don't see any of the top comments by Sargon, TB, etc.
 
Totalimmortal

Totalimmortal

Senior user
#1,700
Jan 16, 2015
slimgrin said:
I don't see them. That is weird. And people are rapidly copy pasting the deleted ones, but I don't see any of the top comments by Sargon, TB, etc.
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Hm, this is a screenshot i just took, but you are right about Sargon, Thunderf00t nor Andromeda, I can't find these anymore
 
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