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Game Journalism - Unfit for purpose?

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Game Journalism - Unfit for purpose?

  • Wholly corrupt and self interested

    Votes: 74 37.6%
  • Slowly sliding into obsolence

    Votes: 40 20.3%
  • Marginally useful, some bad, some good

    Votes: 73 37.1%
  • Super, smashing, great, should implement dlc

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • Apathy is Death!

    Votes: 6 3.0%

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soldiergeralt

Forum veteran
#1,701
Jan 16, 2015
King_Hochmeister said:
I really tried to understand why though, I really tried, is this something related to the area being crazy, or the Hipster culture in general? I have no idea anymore :p
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i think you have to look at what types of people run those twitter accounts and write for those websites. they're usually young, upper middle class, wealthy parents, privileged backgrounds, educated in either the arts or communications. they're been living in a society that has virtually done away with hardships, with no real understanding of what constitutes racism, prejudice, injustice outside of the garbage being taught to them in their humanities courses.

so the struggle narrative, the victimhood complex, the awkward solidarity with real victims all have a natural appeal to these people who are otherwise living a rather sheltered and pointless existence.
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,702
Jan 16, 2015
PC Gamer deserves some credit here.

http://www.pcgamer.com/a-note-on-disclosure/
 
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Damariel

Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,703
Jan 16, 2015
King_Hochmeister said:
Sometimes I just wonder how the hell those idiots came to be in the spotlight?
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Daddy's money....


Fucking Hell... Killing critics and satirists is a good riddance nowadays.
 
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gregski

gregski

Moderator
#1,704
Jan 16, 2015
slimgrin said:
PC Gamer deserves some credit here.

http://www.pcgamer.com/a-note-on-disclosure/
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They are from the future.
 
Damariel

Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,705
Jan 16, 2015
gregski said:
They are from the future.
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,706
Jan 16, 2015
There's a gif about the ABC censorship somewhere, i'll see if I can find it.

View attachment 9297

Not my work obviously, all respects and thanks to creator.
 

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Damariel

Damariel

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#1,707
Jan 16, 2015
Blothulfur said:
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And Anti-GG still wonder why all pros says all the time "We already won"...


Edit: Twitts from one Anti-GG (at least I think he's anti when he RT Brianna) about Witcher are hilarious.
https://twitter.com/Khazar222/status/556228870169722880

For rest of them you can check his profile.. btw he''s Bioware fan.
 
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KingHochmeister

Forum veteran
#1,708
Jan 16, 2015
Damariel Alunnar said:
Edit: Twitts from one Anti-GG (at least I think he's anti when he RT Brianna) about Witcher are hilarious.
https://twitter.com/Khazar222/status/556228870169722880

For rest of them you can check his profile.. btw he''s Bioware fan.
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And this, is why I despise those idiots.

https://twitter.com/Khazar222/status/556231230971473920
 
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Alan989

Alan989

Forum veteran
#1,709
Jan 16, 2015
I don't normally come in here, but I have to say that Geek and Sundry has hit a new low.

[video=youtube;Aa-NzqCJ4lM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-NzqCJ4lM[/video]

*Sigh*
 
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EliHarel

Rookie
#1,710
Jan 17, 2015
I'm not sure why I keep entering this thread. It feels like masochism to me at this point. I only leave it way more frustrated than how I came in.
 
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Totalimmortal

Totalimmortal

Senior user
#1,711
Jan 17, 2015
eliharel said:
I'm not sure why I keep entering this thread. It feels like masochism to me at this point. I only leave it way more frustrated than how I came in.
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Fight the good fight man! You are Judge Dredd (although the Sly one), you don't get frustrated, you laugh at the face of (social) injustice and sentence it to 25-to-life in Iso-cube, or give them sweet law from .. Lawgiver.

Anyway, I sometimes feel the same, not just regarding this thread but the whole topic at hand... But it has been like that for ages on TV and papers I guess, only "these days" it has hit much more familiar media which I hold dear, so the least we can do is to rant about or share/support the good ones, while criticizing (at the very least) con artists the likes of Anita. I'm not even pro nor anti-GG, I just do what I think every sane person would when he sees all these 'evidence' presented to him.
So better than sitting idly imo, ignoring the whole charade, although I admit, that would save quite a lot of now gone nerves

Alan989 said:
I don't normally come in here, but I have to say that Geek and Sundry has hit a new low.

[video=youtube;Aa-NzqCJ4lM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-NzqCJ4lM[/video]

*Sigh*
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Nothing good can come of GamerGate.
I like the rich irony, how just couple of posts above, there is a article+video proof of a GOOD thing that came out from GG movement.
 
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Damariel

Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,712
Jan 17, 2015
Alan989 said:
I don't normally come in here, but I have to say that Geek and Sundry has hit a new low.

[video=youtube;Aa-NzqCJ4lM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-NzqCJ4lM[/video]

*Sigh*
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Totalimmortal said:
Nothing good can come of GamerGate.
I like the rich irony, how just couple of posts above, there is a article+video proof of a GOOD thing that came out from GG movement.
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Seeing this video, this guy came up in my mind again....

So yeah at least PC Gamer asked for rope to salvation... sort of [#MasterRaceGate still on the back of my mind].
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,713
Jan 17, 2015
HAHAHAHA! That guy's rage is fucking hilarious. I thought his head was gonna burst.
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,714
Jan 17, 2015
eliharel said:
I'm not sure why I keep entering this thread. It feels like masochism to me at this point. I only leave it way more frustrated than how I came in.
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For me the thing is that it's a direct attack on our hobby, if we don't do something now, however small, one day we're going to wake up and idiots like McIntosh and Saarkeesian will have got their hands on it. Developers will be straitjacketed, forced to adhere to a politically correct checklist when they create, characters will be squeeing idiots like in Bioware games, no game with an anywhere near realistic setting will be allowed, visual novels preaching at the player about diversity (made by middle class white men) will be the favourite kind of game, any interactivity won't be allowed as it allows harassment, and any kind of challenging moral crisis will go the way of the Dodo, because nothing oppressive can be featured.

Most of all though I think it's important that we finally stand up and be counted as consumers. We happen to choose to spend our spare time playing games, some do tv and others read, nobody should be fucking judged for that. Especially not by corrupt, squealing, little hipster man children who have neither the mental capacity nor the moral superiority to judge anbybody. Yeah it seems frustrating when even mainstream media aligns against us, spreading lies and disinformation about millions from all races and genders, but fuck 'em, they've always targeted us, and they're becoming more and more irrelevant.

The fight might seem hopeless, the odds against us, and truth, free speech and the fight against censorship at its lowest ebb, but I say that's all the more reason to fight harder.

Edit: Besides we've got nothing better to do, as the living dead.
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,715
Jan 17, 2015
Games are just the latest to be subjected this to nonsense. Fact is there's a long, sad history of people trying to utilize art and media as their own tool for political agendas. The first instance I recall was reading about the Gorilla Girls and their attack on classical art. The lunacy of trying to reject our shared art history is beyond me.



It was started by seven female artists and was an attempt to shoehorn their own political agenda, as well as their art, into the scene. People like this have had an enormous impact on the art world and not for the better. It's the bloody 21st century, art should remain free of social engineering.

Been reading some articles by Elizabeth Fogarty, the transgendered gamer who put up that clever youtube clip a while back. I'm linking her site because she's one level-headed thinker.

https://feelsandreals.wordpress.com/

Sargon rips ABC to shreds:

 
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Damariel

Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,716
Jan 18, 2015
Blothulfur said:
Edit: Besides we've got nothing better to do, as the living dead.
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But yeah, I realised some time ago that I turn on TV one time per week to watch sport news and that's pretty much all what I do with TV now. And regular "News Channels" I watched last time like 3-4 months ago. So if it's not just me and it is some bigger trend here then they are already irrelevant. And since when we're even thinking that mass media would defend us in first place? xD.

All I want from GG is that I don't want to hear from spoiled rich kids and their best friends con artists what I should play/do/think in the future. I have my own mind and plans thank you very much. Also some more of journalistic ethics would be nice.

Edit: Also @slimgrin Sargon video is epic ;P.
 
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DuranA.111

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#1,717
Jan 26, 2015
Seems wiki arbitration comitee decided to ban the five editors who where spouting lies in on the GamerGate page.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#1,718
Jan 26, 2015
DuranA said:
Seems wiki arbitration comitee decided to ban the five editors who where spouting lies in on the GamerGate page.
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Oooh. Thanks for that heads-up.
I hadn't been following it, but I did read the talk and arbitration pages a few times in the early days, and remember thinking how crazy it had got - they kept pushing that "NPOV means that only accredited sources can be used, and oh, tough shit, none of the pro-gamergate sources are accredited, but these incredibly biased opinion pieces we've found in Gawker publications are perfectly OK."
 
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Damariel

Forum veteran
#1,719
Jan 26, 2015
DuranA said:
Seems wiki arbitration comitee decided to ban the five editors who where spouting lies in on the GamerGate page.
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Damn bloody time...
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#1,720
Jan 26, 2015
Word is that somebody influential is updating their disclosure policy, and that a certain Ben is fuming, don't know how true this is.
 
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