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Game Journalism - Unfit for purpose?

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Game Journalism - Unfit for purpose?

  • Wholly corrupt and self interested

    Votes: 74 37.6%
  • Slowly sliding into obsolence

    Votes: 40 20.3%
  • Marginally useful, some bad, some good

    Votes: 73 37.1%
  • Super, smashing, great, should implement dlc

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • Apathy is Death!

    Votes: 6 3.0%

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DuranA.111

Rookie
#161
Sep 8, 2014
Slimgrin: That would never happen. PR heads would refuse to allow them to speak their mind and they do listen to PR agencies.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#162
Sep 8, 2014
@DuranA: That depends. Some are less scared of PR and stupid media.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#163
Sep 8, 2014
DuranA said:
Slimgrin: That would never happen. PR heads would refuse to allow them to speak their mind and they do listen to PR agencies.
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Iwinski and Newell are not out of the question. They answer to nobody, and both of them haven't curtailed their opinions in the past. Howard is less likely, as I doubt he has ownership of Bethesda.

More dirt:

 
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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#164
Sep 8, 2014
He's just the executive director(Howard), Zenimax media owns all the IP's and Bethesda Softworks. I would still like his full opinion though being one of the top guys in the industry. Granted he would probably get canned and Pete Hines would have to clean it up.
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#165
Sep 8, 2014
Rock Paper Shotgun released an article recently. Their conclusions: Games don't belong to gamers. They belong to everybody.

That everybody means hack writers promoting a so called social justice agenda in order to clickbait? That everybody means Social Justice Warriors like Anita Sarkesian that are intellectually dishonest?
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#166
Sep 8, 2014
DuranA said:
Rock Paper Shotgun released an article recently. Their conclusions: Games don't belong to gamers. They belong to everybody.

That everybody means hack writers promoting a so called social justice agenda in order to clickbait? That everybody means Social Justice Warriors like Anita Sarkesian that are intellectually dishonest?
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Well, yea. Lol. Anyone that can purchase and participate with media owns it in a way. Not in any meaningful law binding way, but in a feel good social blah blah way.

In reality, a gamer's opinion of games only means more to gamers. Unfortunately.
 
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Veleda.980

Rookie
#167
Sep 8, 2014
DuranA said:
Rock Paper Shotgun released an article recently. Their conclusions: Games don't belong to gamers. They belong to everybody.
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Tell that to the accountants when your game tanks, dude.
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#168
Sep 8, 2014
Escapist Magazine has changed it's rules just now as a result of #gamergate.

Fight the good fight!
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#169
Sep 8, 2014
DuranA said:
Escapist Magazine has changed it's rules just now as a result of #gamergate.

Fight the good fight!
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What changes?
 
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ApuLunas.211

Rookie
#170
Sep 8, 2014
DuranA said:
Escapist Magazine has changed it's rules just now as a result of #gamergate.

Fight the good fight!
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to be honest i don't believe it. i think they passed the line to return. however, it's good to see gamers are winning. gaming journalism will learn to respect us.
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#171
Sep 8, 2014
The escapist being pressured into changing their guidelines is but a first step. A tidal wave is coming and it will not stop until they are all drowned in a sea of their own blood.

I personally dream of the entirety of gaming media dying off.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#172
Sep 8, 2014
I don't know about escapist magazine. What policies did they change?
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#173
Sep 8, 2014
Read: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/12223-The-Escapist-Publisher-Issues-Public-Statement-on-Gamergate.2

New Policy that they will use from now on is on the final page. I am not too happy with Escapist, considering what they've done in the past, but I am willing to accept this non-apology.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#174
Sep 9, 2014
Interesting stuff. Someone's finally at least appearing to treat gaming and gaming journalism more seriously. We'll see how that goes. Really good article though either way.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#175
Sep 9, 2014
DuranA said:
Read: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/12223-The-Escapist-Publisher-Issues-Public-Statement-on-Gamergate.2

New Policy that they will use from now on is on the final page. I am not too happy with Escapist, considering what they've done in the past, but I am willing to accept this non-apology.
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Good article, thanks for posting. (I've removed so many gaming sites from my newsfeed over the last few days that I'd missed this one).
And yes, definitely a non-apology, but the good kind, the "We're not going to apologise explicitly, but we do recognise we did something wrong and we won't do it again" type of non-apology.

I was expecting something like this from those sites that are part of larger corporations, but not this quickly. In the short term, when there's a controversy like this, the editors/management tend to see an opportunity to get lots of revenue simply by encouraging the readership to be angry. Controversy has always sold newspapers, and so do clickbait articles that make people go and see exactly HOW they're being insulted. Backing off this early in the life of the story may indicate that The Escapist has decided that the long-term benefit of respecting its readership is more important than a short-term hit boost. We'll see.

Edit:
I just read the second article
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/12222-Why-I-Still-Call-Myself-a-Gamer-During-Gamergate?
Also good, and finally good to see someone in the mainstream recognise that the bullying and abuse wasn't just in one direction. (I also think it's a dig at RPS's "We will not listen to critics" policy, which makes it even better)
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#176
Sep 9, 2014
The Escapist was never a huge fish in this whole affair. They weren't at the center of it but they did allow discussion and debate on their site and they did recognize an opportunity for more revenue.

It's seriously meeting us halfway...but it's a start.
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#177
Sep 9, 2014
With all these stories of favors and corruption this thread could easily be retitled "Unfit ON Purpose".
 
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DuranA.111

Rookie
#178
Sep 9, 2014
https://twitter.com/randomfox/status/509177313955971073/photo/1

I fucking loved this.
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#179
Sep 9, 2014
Yeah that happened a while ago. Blizzard guy was having none of it.
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#180
Sep 9, 2014
@DuranA
Lol that's hilarious. I felt like I was watching a beauty pageant and RPS just asked Ms. South Carolina about why she thought kids were starving. Seriously, you don't go to a beauty pageant because you think those women are intelligent, and you don't expect entertainment to press social issues. It's ENTERTAINMENT.

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