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pennyb

Senior user
#1
Nov 19, 2008
Game Play Problem

Hi all :)I don't know if this is a technical thing or not. Let me describe my computer first.It's a 3.33 Ghz IBM quad core cpu. I am running Windows Vista 64 bit with 8 gigs of memory. My video card is a nVidia 9800 GT. I am running SP 1 on the OS, and latest DirectX 10 drivers dated 11/08/2008.The game has played flawlessly from day 1 except for a problem when I first had to kill the giant swamp plants, the ones that popped out of the ground. It seemed that when I clicked on the ground I wouldn't move to that spot, nor could I initiate combat by clicking on the target. Poor Geralt would just stand there waving the sword over his head while the plant poisoned him to death :( I eventually beat the thing using the fire sign. That was the only blip in the game I've experienced up to that point.Now I am in the trade Quarter, I notice that the faultless perfect pathing doesn't work anymore. I have to click on a location 5 or 6 times to run to it and in some cases I can't even move to a spot, even to loot a corpse or open a cabinet. Also, I am on the part in the game where I am eavesdropping on the Salamandra where they are talking to someone in the mirror and they hear something and attack me. I am using group steel, I have swallow, wolf and kiss potions active. I click on the floor to move and nothing happens, I mouse over a enemy to attack, I get the attack icon and click, and all I do is stand there waving the sword over my head. Once in awhile I swing and actually damage or even kill someone, but I keep getting killed long before I can do any real damage. So this is really making the game difficult. I don't mind a puzzle or trying to develop a strategy to win, but when then game won't even perform like its supposed to then it gets frustrating :( The other thing that has become a chore is loading a saved game. In the beginning it took seconds, now its up to many minutes :(I know the update is supposed to address allot of things as well as update the story and dialogue, but my ISP only allows 5 gigs of download per month and if I go over it costs me .25/mb, so the 900 mb patch would cost me 225.00 USD.
 
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J_Slash

Forum veteran
#2
Nov 20, 2008
In the situations you mentioned, your attackers have the ability to inflict "Pain" effect, witch is supposed to slow your movement and attack speed, but i noticed that sometimes it totally prevents movement and attack, and the effect icon doesn't appear, witch does seem like a bug. you should invest in abilities that increase pain resistance.For the savegame problem, well i strongly advise you to install the patch, at least the 1.3, you have a pretty powerful machine,so loading a savegame shouldn't take more than a few seconds then. ;)
 
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pennyb

Senior user
#3
Nov 21, 2008
Hmmmm Ok, well that explains the lack of movement issue. Thank you so much, I'll have to see what I can do to resolve that.There is still a pathing problem outside of combat that concerns me because in the beginning chapters it was incredibly smart, now its incredibly annoying :(I'd love to install the patch, but as I said in my first post 225.00 to pay my ISP for a patch to a game that already cost me 59.95 is a bit of a expense. Is there no other way to get the update except a download???Thank you :)
 
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lovely_psycho

Senior user
#4
Nov 21, 2008
Hi Pennyb, welcome to the forum :)
Pennyb said:
The game has played flawlessly from day 1 except for a problem when I first had to kill the giant swamp plants, the ones that popped out of the ground.
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pennyb

Senior user
#5
Nov 21, 2008
lovelypsycho said:
Hi Pennyb, welcome to the forum :)Thank you, its nice to enter a pre-dominant male area and feel at home :)
lovelypsycho said:
The game has played flawlessly from day 1 except for a problem when I first had to kill the giant swamp plants, the ones that popped out of the ground. It seemed that when I clicked on the ground I wouldn't move to that spot, nor could I initiate combat by clicking on the target. Poor Geralt would just stand there waving the sword over his head while the plant poisoned him to death :( I eventually beat the thing using the fire sign. That was the only blip in the game I've experienced up to that point.
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Aah, those things, yikes, one of my least favourite monsters. Seriously, those things are just ugly! :) I'm not asking for my monsters to be attractive, but I guess what I'm saying is that if Geralt has to spend the majority of his time with such things, that it would be nice if they were at least a little easy on the eye :DAttacking echinopsae and archespores have traditionally been a little tricksy, especially if you're playing pre-EE (that is to say, pre-1.4 patch). Rather than letting Geralt try and path his way to an attack, try manually moving him right up against the echinopsae and then click on them. Sometimes it has been that clicking on a plant monster with the expectation that Geralt can cover the ground and start an attack results in Geralt just standing there and doing nothing. Sorry if you've already tried doing that, but if you haven't it might be worth a shot?Actually I found a scroll for a potion called Oriele or something like that at Thaler's pawn shop. It was a high immunity to posion potion, so the potion, the fire spell and fast steel did the trick. I still could not path to the plant in 3rd person view, but after I set it on fire once I was able to close to sword range and kill it...yay
lovelypsycho said:
Now I am in the trade Quarter, I notice that the faultless perfect pathing doesn't work anymore. I have to click on a location 5 or 6 times to run to it and in some cases I can't even move to a spot, even to loot a corpse or open a cabinet.
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hmmmm, that's a bit of an odd one. What camera view are you in? I've seen the game have a little bit of a fit sometimes with specific regards to looting (ie, no amount of maneuvering would result in the looting icon or window coming up) that was fixed by dropping out of the OTS camera viewa and into one of the isometric views, wherein looting worked perfectly, then dropping back to OTS. Not sure if that was just a random glitch I observed or whether toggling the camera view might help "unstick" something :)Ok by pathing I mean I click on what appears to be a open line from point A (geralt) and point B the old ladies cabinet that I am robbing for the 9th time and Geralt stand there like a mope! Also, if I enter a house and try to loot a cabinet or wardrobe I can't get to it. The only things in the way are the game graphics, which shouldn't prevent the pathing since the pathing is supposed to go around those things.One thing...
I click on the floor to move and nothing happens, I mouse over a enemy to attack, I get the attack icon and click, and all I do is stand there waving the sword over my head.
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When you say Geralt waves the sword over this head, could it be that Geralt is having his attack disrupted and is unable to get a combo started? This usually happens if, for example, you're trying to use Strong Style on an agile enemy that requires Fast Style. This can also happen when trying to use Group Style on a number of enemies - it only takes one agile bloke who parries your attack to stop Geralt in his tracks :) Does it help to try clicking on a different enemy and see if Geralt can get into a rhythm?Now I dont know if his attack is being disrupted as there is no icon or sign that, that has occured. The enemies are bunched around him pretty good and the area for the battle is pretty close. So imagine you are in a room 4 feet wide packed with 10 bodies and you are swinging a sword that is 6 feet long, even with no skill at all, you should hit something :) What is happening is, there is a enemy in front of geralt, within sword reach and I mouse over the enemy in 3rd person view and I get the combat icon and I click....and then, and thennnnnnnnnn??? Geralt is standing there waving his sword in the air and getting smooshed! It seems I can kill them but its to little to late. Another poster said that Geralt was stunned by pain and that is why he is stuck in neutral. I've had troubles in the past against multiple human enemies when trying to use Group Style, in that one agile bugger parries your attack and Geralt firstly can't get a swing in, and secondly ends up getting sliced and diced by his new "friends" while you're trying to swing. I give it a time out value of 2, which means I try a style once, if it's parried I try it again, and if it's still parried I do something else. I might fire off a sign to buy some breathing room, or switch to a single style and just whale on a close target to try and thin the crowd a bit. Do any of the styles work, or are they all resulting in the over-head animation? Also, when you say you click on the floor and nothing happens, are you clicking in a free area that Geralt does have a path to? Geralt can be a bit fussy sometimes, in that if there's no space where you've clicked or too many enemies in the way, he won't go. I had that problem once after catching a snooze at the New Narakort Inn; Geralt wakes up and here's Dandelion, ever-faithful friend, crooning to the sleeping Geralt (presumably to drown out the ugly sounds of fistfighting in the next alcove so his mate could get some rest; truly a friend indeed! :D ). Unfortunately his beautiful bardic tones caught the ears of some of the patrons, who duly came over to listen. When Geralt went to leave to conduct business, there was such a crowd around Dandelion and the table that Geralt couldn't get through. There was just no room for him to squeeze through!I had to wait for one of the NPCs to wander off before I could squeeze through the gap. In this instance, because Geralt's way was blocked by NPCs the game just wouldn't let him through. Forgive me if I'm off track, but I'm wondering if there are too many enemies around Geralt if he would be unable to move in a combat situation? In which case, I guess something to try would be to fire off a sign like Aard or Igni, one that creates a blast that pushes your enemies back a bit. It might give Geralt the breathing space to move, as well as the added bonus of thinning the herd :)
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The other thing that has become a chore is loading a saved game. In the beginning it took seconds, now its up to many minutes :(
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Ah, is this a menu thing? Does this happen when, for example, clicking Load Game from the menu and the subsequent screen containing the saves takes aaaaaages? If so, try clearing out your save game directory. I have to do that every so often :)You can delete earlier save games from within the game menu (there's a Delete button on the saves menu) or if you want to keep them, you can move them out of the directory outside the game. Make sure the game is not running, then go to My Computer and then My Documents > The Witcher > Saves (C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\My Documents\The Witcher\saves\).Create another directory somewhere on your hard drive and move some of your saves from the Witcher saves directory into your backup directory. There's probably no need to move them all; as a general rule of thumb I move mine out per area. So if I were in Act III, I would probably move all my Prologue/I/II saves into a backup directory (move, not copy) and leave only my Act III saves in the live Witcher directory. Getting the saved game list to appear is almost instantly, I choose a recent save and click on load, then I go play with my dog or read a magazine until it loads. When I first started to play it took a few seconds to load a saved game, now its like trying to convince God that buying a penthouse in heaven is a good deal lolSorry for the wall of text :) Good luck, let us know how you go :)edit: oops, forgot to answer the update question. Barring the free download, the other way to get your hands on the content would be to buy the Enhanced Edition from stores.
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Great on buying the EE version in the store, 59.95 for a new game is allot less than 225 for a down load :)Penny
 
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johnjsal

Senior user
#6
Nov 21, 2008
lovelypsycho said:
lovelypsycho said:
The other thing that has become a chore is loading a saved game. In the beginning it took seconds, now its up to many minutes :(
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Ah, is this a menu thing? Does this happen when, for example, clicking Load Game from the menu and the subsequent screen containing the saves takes aaaaaages? If so, try clearing out your save game directory. I have to do that every so often :)
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THANK YOU!!! I noticed this was happening to me in the past few days and I didn't know why. I have a ton of save files at this point...guess it's time to do some cleaning. :)EDIT: wow, I had 6gb of save files! i deleted all but the latest few and the speed is vastly improved! thanks again!
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#7
Nov 22, 2008
Pennyb said:
I know the update is supposed to address allot of things as well as update the story and dialogue, but my ISP only allows 5 gigs of download per month and if I go over it costs me .25/mb, so the 900 mb patch would cost me 225.00 USD.
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I think you need a new ISP. Seriously. There's a lot of competition in the ISP business, and it should be very easy to find an ISP that allows unlimited downloads for a reasonable price. There's too much cool stuff on the web to be that limited!If you're unwilling to consider that, well, do you have a friend who has a better ISP? You could get the friend to download the patch, put it onto a disk, and you take it home and install it.
 
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lovely_psycho

Senior user
#8
Nov 22, 2008
JohnJSal said:
THANK YOU!!! I noticed this was happening to me in the past few days and I didn't know why. I have a ton of save files at this point...guess it's time to do some cleaning. :)EDIT: wow, I had 6gb of save files! i deleted all but the latest few and the speed is vastly improved! thanks again!
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No worries - glad it worked out for the best :)And :beer: cheers, by the way :)
 
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